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  • [Deleted User]
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    So I figured we'd start Thursday with a bit of spice since yesterday's talk was a big day flop (please PM me with ideas if you have one!) @lauriebizz- remind me to start that doc today!!!

    I know we have some moms to be and others TTC, so let's get take it back to gestation.....

    Today's topic: genetic testing!!!

    Did you, or did you not choose to get the genetic screening tests done? Why or why not?
  • AnonUser30
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    I did. With both kids. So I could be prepared. Testing improved in the 10 years between the girls and with the second I learned I was a CF carrier. During the time when DH was waiting for his test results we researched and discussed what we do if he was also a carrier. He said "No matter what we will figure it out. This is our baby. And if that means we have to move somewhere to give it a better life we will. We will deal with this." That was a good moment. He was not a carrier.

    I did have detailed ultrasounds with the youngest every 2 weeks starting at 20 weeks.
  • unforgivenunforgiven
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    I didn't.  A friend of mine asked me, "if something was wrong, would it make a difference?" I knew it wouldn't so that's why I didn't have any tests done. Good morning all! ~O)

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  • AnonUser30
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    @unforgiven - wouldn't you want to know so you could research and prepare? Both mentally and the logistics??
  • unforgivenunforgiven
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    I admit it might have been a bit naive to NOT have any tests done in the assumption that everything would be fine. My pregnancy was textbook, I was probably too scared to have any tests done... but I had faith that she would be perfect and she was. :)

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  • OpheliaOphelia
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    I didn't. The dr asked if I wanted to, but I declined. I was scared enough without finding out if there was a possibility of something being 'wrong'.

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  • farmmommyfarmmommy
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    I did the blood screening but didnt get an amnio... I wanted to be prepared as possible if there was something wrong with him...
  • DemandaDemanda
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    I loved yesterdays topic!

    Anyway, yeah we did - I wanted to be prepared. I wouldn't have aborted or anything, but I'm a big planner and one of those people who feel I can take on anything as long as I'm armed with all the pertinent information. The only thing I didn't want to find out was the sex.
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  • PhDMommyPhDMommy
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    I didn't.  A friend of mine asked me, "if something was wrong, would it make a difference?" I knew it wouldn't so that's why I didn't have any tests done. Good morning all! ~O)



    ^^This.  Granted I was in the UK and it wasn't offered but even if it had been I wouldn't have done it.  Albeit not really genetic, considering the things I was exposed to in the first month and a half or so of my pregnancy I knew damn well that there was a possibility that something could go wrong but I knew that I would love my child no matter what and if there was something 'wrong' we would deal with it.  For this sort of thing I'd rather roll with the punches than scare myself shitless before hand.

    Morning ladies and gents ~O)
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  • irishlassirishlass
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    Nope, no testing. It wouldn't have made any difference, and if he had been born with serious disabilities that would have required major preparation (i cant think of any - in terms of the first few weeks) he would have probably had to spend extra time in hospital anyway, and that would have given me time to prepare. 
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  • CrashCrash
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    No testing here.

    I haven't had coffee yet, I accidentally went to sleep with one of the kids....who doesn't have an alarm. OOPS!

    Someone pass me a cup.
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  • AnonUser30
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    @irishlass - CF, downs, are 2 that I can think of. Getting a team in place ant take time, therapists, doctors, specialists, etc. that's all stuff that can take time and I *personally* would rather be prepared. But, I'd been blindsided before.

    I only got the blood tests that they do at the doctors office. The ultrasounds were for a different reason.
  • kmetz44kmetz44
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    we did with all of them, there were lotsof worries with this trophy so I wanted to be prepared as I could have been. The ones I feared the most was the first few ultrasounds (the epilepsy meds I take can cause the skull/spinal cord not to develop properly so she would have born, probably alive, but with half a skull and died shortly thereafter)  I would have HAD to be prepared to probably not take my baby home with me...but thankfully she was born 100% healthy
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  • AnonUser30
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    @kmetz44 - which meds are you on? And how did the pregnancy affect your epilepsy??
  • onetimeonetime
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    I had it done with both kids. What I intended to do with that information had it come back "irregular" (I don't know the proper wording, so I'm sorry if that is incorrect), I hadn't even considered. I honestly got it done with no second thought to the results. Naive? Probably, but I haven't really thought about it until just now. 
    Suck it up buttercup!
  • AnonUser30
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    @onetime - "at higher risk for...." is te terminology that I heard. Te genetic testing done just shows the markers and if you are a carrier for a very limited, but common, set of conditions. Like I said I carry CF so they sent DH in and he was tested. He's not a carrier, so there is no risk to baby.
  • shouldcleanshouldclean
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    I had the bloodwork done with ds4 but the office I was at never offered the 13 week nt scan (u/s that measures the fluid in the neck) I had all the bloodwork and nt scan done with dd2 and the one currently squatting in my uterus. The results of the u/s increase the risk of downs with this one but our 20 week u/s looked good so we will find out for sure in a hopefully a few days.

    We didn't get the anno done because we wouldn't terminate the pregnancy because of downs syndrome.
  • RyotMommaRyotMomma
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    I was high-risk from the get-go, so yes I had it done. I had to know and be prepared.
  • runbitchrunrunbitchrun
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    I had the regular blood tests done ie: spina bifida, CF, downs, etc... I didn't do the CVS testing, though I wish I had.

    I'm a CF carrier and my cousin is as well. Her husband got tested and it came out negative for CF. No one told us that it only tests for 95% of CF types. Her baby was born two months ago with a rare form of CF. If you are a carrier, tell the doc to test your SO for all types of CF!

    My sister is preggo and yesterday just got the CVS. She gets the results in two weeks, we are keeping our fingers crossed that everything is clear!
  • chaosmomchaosmom
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    We never did any genetic testing. I am such a worrier though so it would have been better for me to not know. I do better when faced with a do or die situation. Otherwise I would have made myself sick worrying about what might be. Now, if the u/s or anything suggested there was a problem, then I probably would have just because my head would have been filled with worst case scenarios.
  • onetimeonetime
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    Thanks, @livingthedream, I knew I wasn't saying it right, but my brain was still in the excel program I was doing for @chocoholic, LOL. 
    Suck it up buttercup!
  • [Deleted User]
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    @onetime YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!! Thank you thank you thank youuuuuuuuu :-* :x


    I did all the testing- I need alllll the info I can get my hands on because I am a knowledge whore. I also knew that I would choose to terminate in certain scenarios.
  • LoveLove
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    With my oldest--no. I too, was young and idealistic, and of the mindset that of course this baby will be healthy--how could it not? And if it wasn't, I'd rather not know, because I didn't want to be overly stressed and anxious and second-guessing my decisions if something were to be found.

    With my second--yes. Every test under the sun, and I think a few more that were made up! I had some medical issues, and had surgery, and had taken massive amounts of painkillers, both prescribed and 'off the street', not to mention heavy drinking, lost about a hundred pounds, and then discovered pregnancy at 5+ months. I was terrified that something would be wrong with her. I knew there was no option (at least in my mind) for termination by the point that pregnancy was discovered, but on discussing very frankly what had been going on in my life with my Ob/Gyn, he impressed upon me the idea that if there WERE a problem, early detection would mean that we could be in a better place with full preparation and specialists on stand-by.

    With Spawn--yes. Even though this pregnancy was textbook, and I had none of the previous issues, by this time, my body was 10 years older than when I'd started popping out babies, and we'd also learned that DH's nephews (Spawn is the son of my 2nd husband) had varying degrees of Down's. And they have different mothers, but the same father--DH's brother. And although research supports that this is most often not a paternally-carried disorder, it was just too high of a coincidence for us not to be concerned about our possible risk. Again, testing was done, out of a need for possible stand-by of specialists, and so that we could prepare ourselves if need be.

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  • loveitloveit
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    Can't you only get this done if you are over 35? I had dd when 25 and don't remember it even being an issue...
  • shouldcleanshouldclean
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    @loveit sometimes it depends on the drs office. They also do more tests if you are over 35 because you are considered high risk. My dr does blood work, then an u/s around 13 weeks with blood work. Then the 20 week u/s. But unless you get a cvs or an ammo they just test for indicators that your baby could have a genetic abnormality. The only real way to find out is to have true genetic testing done. All the tests were optional for us and they are noninvasive
  • mycrazy6
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    I did testing on one of my DS's & DD, he has disabilities, more severe than my oldest DD. The results came back that he has the Fragil X chromosome, same as my dd which will more than likely be passed on if they were to have kids...He will never be able to live on his own. My oldest DD was diagnosed with Epilepsy @ 13 yrs old...She is still on her medication but has been seizure free for 2 years now. She also lives in her own apartment. Now her & I also made the decision to have a tubal ligation done. She struggles day to day to manage herself, her disabilities sometimes make her seem like she is a little girl. We already knew that if she were to have a child that it would have disabilites and struggle in life, she didn't want to raise a baby that way. I can't raise anymore kids, I guess I shouldn't say can't, I refuse to raise to raise Grandbabies.

     

     

    ~O) Here's to another cup
  • AnonUser37
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    I wouldn't think so @loveit? Most of what they're testing for has nothing to do with age, and is just a matter of whether you carry the genetic marker for it, although I'm not sure all doctor's offer it.

    That said, I had it. I had every single one. My pregnancy was text book and MY family has never seen a genetic disorder of any sort, that I'm aware of, so far. But, my sperm donor has an aunt with down syndrome, two cousins with CF and a great uncle who suffers from what was explained to me as "some degree of mental retardation" (I never met him, I don't know what exactly they meant by that). I needed to know, especially given his genetics, what might be. My mother who has been a nurse for 30 years, encouraged it, so we could be as prepared as possible. Had my levels come back, indicating a possible issue, I would have had the amnio as well.
  • momofdbbmomofdbb
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    I didn't have the tests done , if they had been born with issues I would deal with them as needed. My aunt had the tests and decided to abort because of results. I would have never been able to do that. I don't judge her , her baby her body het choice , it is just not me. She had a hard time deciding what to do.
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  • mycrazy6
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    I have to add that I we spent almost a year making the desicsion for the tubal. I had many moments of omfg what are we doing here? She would never be a mom and that was hard for me. For her it was easy, she kept telling me that she wasn't worried about being a mom and didn't want to raise any kids. She knows that she struggles everyday, in the end SHE actually went to our doc and said "let's do this". It's funny, I never really talked to much about it with anyone because people ALWAYS feel they have the right to judge and tell you how fucked up you are.

    Apologies for completely going off the subject!

    ;;)
  • serenitynowserenitynow
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    with dd#1, i had testing done. the waiting for results was a bitch and then there was an indication that one of the tests was positive but it was false positive because i had gotten the test done i think a week off. so knowing how much stress and agony of waiting for the results i didn't even wanna go through it with #2 and #3.

  • MaryPoppins25
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    Good morning ladies c:

    Being 22 when I got pregnant my dr was not strongly for or against us having the testing. When it came time to discuss that he sat us down, explained the proceedure, as well as the information gained and the risks. He gave us numbers which meant nothing to me but everything to dh. He made the decision right then and there that it wasn't for us. Dh is a number guy, he studied mathematics in uni for 2.5 years before he settled into his position as a millwright. He said that for *us* the risk was not worth the reward and I trusted him. I knew what the tests would be looking for, the risks involved, and what our decision would be either way. Dh and I fall under the pro life within our relationship, pro choice for the rest of the world category.

    So the testing wouldn't have changed whether or not we were having a baby. I wasn't interested in having a test that would stress me out, waiting for the results that would stress me some more, and finally stressing about a result that may not even be accurate. I already suffer from anxiety so stressing throughout the pregnancy about could be's didn't seem logical to us. If our dds had a genetic disorder we would deal with it once they were born. Could we have been more prepared had this of happened if we had genetic testing? Certainly, however surprises like this happen and we would have dealt with any issues as they arose. It would have become my passion and my goal in that moment to educate myself, collect all possible resources, and make myself as informed before leaving the hospital as possible. After leaving the hospital I would have continued to research and find resources to help us through the situation. We would have been just fine.

    One thing that this thread reminded me of is the ass pre med dude who was insisting we have it done. He would actually wait until my dh and my dr weren't around and then pressure me to do the testing and give me pamphlets. I don't think he realized I knew what the tests were for and would not have chosen to terminate regardless of the outcome. He also pinched my vag with the alligator things used in a pap test X(
  • AnonUser30
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    @eapple - was your doctor interested in doing more than a simple blood test?

    @mycrazy6 - Nope, no judgment here. I have considered the same procedure with DD. In fact, we are scheduling her for genetic testing this year to decide if her having children would endanger them. It will be her decision, but she needs to be armed with the facts.
  • MaryPoppins25
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    He tested my blood for stds and for gestational diabetes. Other than that there was one other test done at the end of our pregnancy and it was a swab to check for a "newer" infection that occurs in pregnant women but those are the only tests he recommended.
  • runbitchrunrunbitchrun
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    @mycrazy6 I just learned about the Fragil X chromosome. My sister is getting that test too, I guess because my uncle has autism and cousin has aspergers (sp?), and my son is delayed, the Fragil X was recommended. It's insane what they can check for these days!
  • HotSouthernMess
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    I had the normal cf,downs,and spina bif
  • GritsGrits
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    We didn't, but we did have the option. I elected to stick with standard GD and STD blood tests and the group B strep at the end and let the ultrasound determine if any further testing needed to be done. Thankfully all three of mine were born without any special needs, but I can't say I wouldn't have had an amnio done if the u/s had come back with any abnormalities.
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  • KellynnKellynn
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    I had CVS done when I was about 10 weeks along. I like that it can be done early enough so if the results show something bad, or you are unprepared for, you have better options it being so early in the pregnancy. I like options, and I can't say one way or the other what I would have done if things were different. I was almost 40, as was my husband. He has Gulf War Syndrome, and some studies suggest it could impact fetuses. So, advanced maternal age coupled with the other were the deciding factors. Everything turned out fine, he was a healthy almost 9 lb baby, but he does have ADHD and aspergers.
  • BeerWenchBeerWench
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    I totally didn't get the tag @chocoholic... but my morning at work has been crazy to the point I'm just now loggin on.  I didn't elect any testing at 33 with Allison.  Now I'm 40 *gasp* I would test, but only to prepare.
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  • BeerWenchBeerWench
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    @nunya I can respect that
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  • BeerWenchBeerWench
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    @nunya I don't agree, but I respect your honesty. What about bringing a disabled child into the world and YOU finding a forever family for him/her?

    Give that some thought...
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  • [Deleted User]
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    @nunya, I would have chosen to terminate in certain circumstances- there were certain things I know I could not (and still could not) handle. There is nothing wrong whatsoever with knowing your limits, and I only got one snarky hug earlier in the thread for saying I would have terminated so people can flame me too. >:D<
  • AnonUser30
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    I would have terminated. DH said he wouldn't. Glad it didn't come down to that.
  • BeerWenchBeerWench
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    I haven't had to make that decision, so, I'm not sure what I would do. I'd like to think
    I wouldnt terminate... But I can't say that for 100%
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  • SassySassy
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    We did the quad marker test and would have done the amnio if it came back abnormal. Just couldn't not know.
  • GrainneGrainne
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    We had amino as I was worried because of my age (37) and there are some genetic disorders in both families and I wanted to be prepared. That's how we found out we were having twins! We also found out one baby had an abnormal chromosome. It was a bit scary but we both went for generic testing and found out I have the same. And just for the record it doesn't seem to have any big consequences although my husband likes to say that is the restless legs gene lol. Both my one son and I have a reduced short arm on the 13th chromosome. Apparently there Are lots of chromosomal abnormalities out there but they never knew that they were there and many benign until they started testing. Our results are now in the national research database.
  • anonymommy
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    I didn't.  A friend of mine asked me, "if something was wrong, would it make a difference?" I knew it wouldn't so that's why I didn't have any tests done. Good morning all! ~O)



    ^^This.  DH and I discussed it and knew that it wouldn't make a difference, so we didn't test. 
  • AnonUser24
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    onetime said:

    I had it done with both kids. What I intended to do with that information had it come back "irregular" (I don't know the proper wording, so I'm sorry if that is incorrect), I hadn't even considered. I honestly got it done with no second thought to the results. Naive? Probably, but I haven't really thought about it until just now. 



    Me too! Exactly.