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On methadone & newborn - Dealing with dr's?
  • SqueakyTweaky
    Posts: 39Member

    I have been on methadone maintenance (on & off, more on than off!) for approx. 2 1/2 years now; I'm 35 weeks pregnant and have been on methadone (and under lots of guidance from OB as well as methadone clinic staff/in-house dr) for the duration of the pregnancy.  [but taking nothing else besides vitamins]  Have been on bed rest for about 3 months because of a history of pre-term labor (and they had to give me the magnesium & other drugs to stop labor once with this pregnancy)

    I live in Waco, TX where in my opinion people in the medical profession do not seem to have much factual knowledge about methadone treatment, and most seem biased against it (tho I am very much indebted to it, as it has kept me sane & most important SOBER)... I'm worried about my C-section and the baby coming in 2 weeks.  Any advice on how to deal with the doctors/hospital staff?  I don't want my little one to be suffering just b/c people are going to want to be against giving her anything to help her.  Is there anything I can do to make sure they are constantly watching for signs of withdrawals?  Any sort of tests I can demand like as far as the levels in her system or something?  Anything I can do to help her, both while in the hospital and after she comes home?  Will she be likely to be in the NICU for a while?

    So far she's only 4 lbs 12 oz (me=small frame but big belly!, LOL) they think she's going to be at least 5 lbs by the time she's born but I don't know what effect that'll have on anything...

  • WildandFree
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    She will likely be in the NICU for a while and monitored closely because I can almost guarantee she is going to go through withdrawal. -A Nurse
  • WildandFree
    Posts: 1,596Member
    More info:

    Heroin and other opiates, including methadone, can cause significant withdrawal in the baby, with some symptoms lasting as long as four to six months. Seizures may also occur and are more likely in babies born to methadone users.

    Babies suffering from withdrawal are irritable and often have a difficult time being comforted. Swaddling, or snugly wrapping the baby in a blanket, may help comfort the baby. Babies also may need extra calories because of their increased activity and may need a higher calorie formula. Intravenous (IV) fluids are sometimes needed if the baby becomes dehydrated or has severe vomiting or diarrhea.

    Some babies may need medications to treat severe withdrawal symptoms, especially for seizures and to help relieve the discomfort and problems of withdrawal. The treatment drug is usually in the same class as the substance the baby is withdrawing from. Once the signs of withdrawal are controlled, the dosage is gradually decreased to help wean the baby off the drug. Talk to your baby's ped to learn which treatments might be effective for your baby.
  • WildandFree
    Posts: 1,596Member
    For more specific information you can look up Neonatal Abstinence Syndrome which is the more technical term for it
  • WildandFree
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    A good medical team is not going to let the baby suffer and possibly die (because yea babies can die from withdrawal) simply because of a bias against "drug" users. If you truly think tht is the case, you may want to deliver elsewhere. I will be honest that a stigma comes along with methadone users. That's the blunt truth. It indicates an addiction no matter if you're recovering, sober or whatever. You probably will not get away from that. The stigma is attached, BUT personal feelings or judgements are put aside and the needs of the patient (ie you and baby) are to be put first.
  • BellaBefanaBellaBefana
    Posts: 8,215Member
    Mine was born at 36 weeks and wasn't quite 5 lbs 2 oz, so I wouldn't worry about that part, so long as she's healthy otherwise.  It'll be a tough road for her though.  I can tell you that I had to wean off painkillers during my first trimester that I take for Stage IV endometriosis, and have taken for many, many years.  It took a long time to find something that worked for the pain and still kept me functional.  I was actually on methadone for pain for quite a while, so I'm pretty familiar with the drug.  It gets a very bad rap.  

    Also, within a few weeks of dd being born I had to go back on pain medication, though I was at maybe 1/3 of the amount I took pre-pregnancy.  I was also nursing.  It didn't seem to effect her in any way, nor did she appear to have any kind of withdrawal when she stopped nursing, and being a pharmaceutical professional with quite a lot of experience in Schedule II narcotic trials, I was very alert to the symptoms.

    Anyway, talk to your O.B. and see if he can set up a meeting with you and one of the neonatologist and him to discuss the issue.  I think it will put your mind at ease.  What you want to be sure of is that the hospital staff knows that 1) you're taking it, and more importantly 2) your OB and others are monitoring you and the baby with specific regard to the methadone.  There is a very good book called Medications and Mother's Milk available that you might want to get.  I think that may also ease your mind a bit.  If you want, PM and I'll hunt down my copy and see exactly what it says about methadone.
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  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,961Member
    @squeakytweaky ... I have no idea what to say to this because it's nothing I've seen in my life. so... do what the drs say. They won't (I pray to god) let your baby suffer. They may be rude to you. It's a crap shoot. Addiction to anything sucks. I'm sorry you're going through this.
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • pdxmama
    Posts: 1,470Member
    *This comment has been edited to remove my reference to a previous poster's comment that I found offensive, that's why it may not seem to make much sense.*

    Self righteous much? Luckily, we don't have forced sterilization in this country, even for "irresponsible addicts". Guess what, methadone maintenance is the standard of care for pregnant former opiate abusers. That means, the fact that she's in a methadone treatment program is a good thing. She's trying to keep herself healthy for her baby, and babies are successfully weaned from methadone all the time. Yes it will be a tough road at first @squeakytweaky, but you just keep doing what you need to do to stay clean, and please don't listen to what that asshole that just posted. I know a lot about methadone and pregnancy/delivery. Like @bellabefana, I was on it for pain management years ago, but I also worked in methadone treatment with a lot of pg women. Pm me and I'll be happy to share my experience with you.
  • Luvlyssa
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    @pdxmama I love you :)
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • pdxmama
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    @luvlyssa for the record (and you know I luv ya) methadone is not "bad"! It's a legally prescribed medication for a variety of medically recognized conditions, one of which is opiate replacement therapy. From what the op says she's in a methadone treatment program, not scoring the pills on the street or something. Methadone programs are highly regulated by the government and it's closely monitored, with lots of testing for illicit drug use, dispensed by RNs, pts are assigned a licensed Drug Counselor, etc.
  • pdxmama
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    but yes, there is still a huge stigma attached to it. I've known more than a couple people who would've been dead along time ago without it.
  • Luvlyssa
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    @pdxmama I know... I was trying to be VERY diplomatic ... sorry if I wasn't. I've seen some addictions to it... so I consider it a lesser of two evils (much less evil) but... it's still a "bad" drug (please note. I consider things like... a certain type of insulin bad/evil/ewww (for me).

    I'll go now.. I didn't mean to offend.

    Hope a mod gets here soon.
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  • pdxmama
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    @luvlyssa don't go, I wasn't mad at you, or offended. I heart you!
  • nessamommynessamommy
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    I cannot give you any advice bc I simply know nothing about methadone treatment. I just wanted to say I think its great you are asking for advice and trying to do the right thing for your baby and yourself.
    Please do not stop asking for advice just because of a few judgemental people!
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  • WildandFree
    Posts: 1,596Member
    Theres no need for mod intervention. @icansellout too stated her opinion and has not come back to further say anything else. We are all entitled to our opinion judgmental or not.

    Also, I agree. Methadone is a "bad" drug. For babies. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be so closely monitored and babies wouldn't scream bloody murder when being weaned from it. Withdrawal symptoms are no joke and not to be taken lightly which is why I stated that here at least, babies are placed in the micu and closely monitored an cares for by our specialty nurses while being weaned/supplemented with pain medication. And yes, it's the lesser of two evils but still a bitch to be weaned from especially from a new baby who has no idea why it feels the way it does.
  • WildandFree
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    *NICU
  • motherofdragonsmotherofdragons
    Posts: 57Member
    I'm sorry that she's going through this, but I agree with mellowyellow, it's not like they're not going to fight for you and your baby, they aren't allowed to be that judgemental in their practice. It is what it is, and you have to deal with the static that you get from it.
  • WildandFree
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    Exactly @motherofdragons I'm sorry, but people are judgmental including doctors and nurses. It's kind of hard not to be jaded or cynical when you see the worst of the worst on a daily basis. @megsue is a nurse too. She might have some good info or help to contribute as well. It is what it is, and regardless it's just another consequence you have to face because of the choices you made. I'm glad you've chosen sobriety, but it's a long road and we all know what society is like which is why we come here. Truth hurts.
  • pdxmama
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    I'm not saying that babies being born addicted to methadone is good ffs! It sucks for sure, and my heart hurts for them. I'm just saying that the attitude of "methadone is bad" is what makes so many opiate addicts keep using heroin or oxycontin or w/e. At least if a pregnant addict is on methadone its regulated, monitored and she's being followed by a trained addiction medicine staff. If a woman is physically dependent on opiates when she gets pregnant, there really isn't a medically accepted protocol for stopping cold turkey. That will generally lead to miscarriage, especially in the first trimester. That's why methadone is the standard of care.
  • WildandFree
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    I didn't mean it wasn't a standard of care. It IS standard protocol but some people seem to think that it's a cure all and easy or not so serious to wean babies from. That what I meant by "bad."
  • shadylaneshadylane
    Posts: 3,037Member
    @SqueakyTweaky what is ur dose level? That has everything to do with whether or not ur baby will go thru withdrawal. If its not a high dose there is a good chance she will have no symptoms at all. Only a percentage of the dose u take is actually passed to the baby, not all of it. And some babies on relatively high dose still have no symptoms, it can't really be predicted b/c it has to do with ur personal body chemistry. Message me if u want, like I said I have btdt so I know all about being treated like crap b/c of being on a medication that saved my life. If someone does treat u badly, file a complaint on them. Don't just take it. And even say something to the person doing it, like if u don't feel u can give me or my baby the proper level of care b/c of ur personal convictions, please tell ur supervisor and get someone who can.
    ~slim shady~
  • GypsyMamaGypsyMama
    Posts: 614Member
    Wow, no mod intervention- that really frustrates me. I agree that everyone gets to have an opinion but the tone of this comment is way out of line from what I've seen in other situations. This poster is obviously in a tenuous and fragile place. I don't think sm would tolerate us treating a suicidal person like this or someone who was thinking about hurting their kids. It seems counter productive and counter intuitive. People can share their opinion without being mean. That's not what happened here. I was chastised once for being judgemental about some wealthy lady's purse. It sucked but I took it in as guidance about how to better frame my posts. This post was this persons third post. Letting them slide with that kind of tone and meanness sets a precedent and tells them it's ok to be mean.
  • southerngal
    Posts: 43Member
    @Icansellouttoo I dont think she asked for your input regarding the type of mother she is or whether or not she should have more children. Your input just shows what a judgemental asshole you are.

    @SqueakyTweaky big hugs on your sobreity and please dont let any assholes discourage you, no one is perfect and we have all made bad decisions in the past, it doesnt mean we should be judged on them for the rest of our lives. Keep your head up and keep moving forward with your sobreity. 
    'if you cant fly then run, if you cant run then walk, if you cant walk then crawl, but whatever you do you have to keep moving forward'

    Dr Martin Luther King, Jr.
  • WildandFree
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    @gypsymama Heck no I'm not a mod. I haven't been around long enough nor am I on enough. I just come around when I have a bit of down time. I was just playing devil's advocate. From a medical staff standpoint I totally see @icansellouttoo's opinion. Sorry, but it's true and I guarantee I'm not the only person working in a hospital that feels the same way. But in the same breath, you have to honor your license and treat no matter your personal feelings. They aren't supposed to show or affect the way you treat someone. Also, whether or not I agree with someone, according to the vibe of this site, I have to support their opinion harsh/disrespectful or kind. No one took the time to ask sell out why she feels so strongly or harshly. She was immediately judged for the way she worded and judged OP. Maybe her comment came from a place of Hirt or anger and our harsh judgments of her scared her off. All of us have to be mindful of how we post and react to how other's post even if we think they aren't being nice about it IMO
  • nonamejustmommy
    Posts: 162Member
    @squeakytweaky you are an awesome mom! Props to you for staying sober and not getting your child hooked on something much worse. I am sorry you are going through this and I have no medical advice but I wanted to show my support for you as a mom. Stay strong and yes your ob can get a talk with the neonatologist. Mine got me an appt with the anesthesiologist the second time around because the first time they totally screwed up my back with the epidural. Anything is possible if you just ask. 
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  • WildandFree
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    @shadylane is absolutely right as well. If anyone gives you hell request someone different even though they should know better to begin with and pass on the assignment if they feel they can't emotionally handle it. No matter what, patient(s) first.
  • shadylaneshadylane
    Posts: 3,037Member
    i must say though i don't understand why that comment is still there, i have seen lots of comments deleted that were not near as bad. she didn't just state her opinion, it was a personal attack, and she obviously is not educated on the topic at hand. u shouldn't pass judgment on something u know nothing about imo.
    ~slim shady~
  • shadylaneshadylane
    Posts: 3,037Member
    so she made other coments that were deleted?
    ~slim shady~
  • Peace
    Posts: 2,087Member
    How long she'll be in the NICU is impossible to know right now...it varies greatly, & is specific to each case. She could be ready to go home with you, or there for weeks. Keep taking good care of yourself & we are all hoping for the best case scenario. You have no way of knowing until she's tested & they establish a plan for her.
    I understand that you're getting nervous about how the staff might feel about the methadone. Try not to be. You're on it, it's working for you, end of story. You can't change that or the past.

    Please don't think she'll be in anyway neglected! The opposite will be true. She's going to watched very carefully & most likely get the most attention.
    Take whatever time she's in the hospital and really use it. You'll have nurses with years of experience helping babies around. Ask questions, find out the tricks they've learned. Keep notes on what they suggest.
    If you go home before your baby, be sure you go see her at least once a day for a few hours.
    Feed her & comfort her. Practice how to care for her while you have all these people available to guide you how to do it the best way possible. Def take advantage of their knowledge.

    Nurses aren't saints. Just like every other job in the world, some will be jerks.
    They're also in the crappy position of seeing & experiencing some awful things. They can get jaded just like everyone else.
    But please, please, don't assume they would ever let an infant suffer.
    And don't plan on demanding tests, when you don't even know what tests are standard.
    Or judging their level of care in keeping her under observation.
    No need to look for or expect trouble here.
    You judging them as a response to thinking they're judging you is the worst way to approach this.
    All focus on the babe. Partner with them in helping her through any withdrawal.
    This is a team approach, be a part of the team.

    Do your homework now. Learn about methadone in infants, what to expect, how to handle her, what she might have trouble with, what you can do to help.
    Make notes, after you have her ask different nurses for their opinions.

  • WildandFree
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    See that's what I mean.. How do we know she knows nothing about it? How about I reword myself. @icansellouttoo maybe you could reword your statement to suit everyone else and explain why you came off so harsh and suddenly. You obviously feel passionately about the subject, and your input, if worded correctly, would be appreciated as well seeing as its different and other perspectives are always welcome here.
  • WildandFree
    Posts: 1,596Member
    @peace spot freaking on! We get judged all the time before anyone even sees us thinking all nurses are awful and bitchy and can't put aside personal feelings after dealing with one nasty nurse. We all get bad names when in reality, there are some spectacular men and women out there who could treat someone awful with the utmost compassion and respect. Thank you!!
  • CanadianMamaCanadianMama
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    Alright ladies, can we please get this thread back on topic. This thread isn't about her ability as a mother, it isn't about someone's comments about her as a mother. 

    Back on topic:
    "Any advice on how to deal with the doctors/hospital staff?  I don't want my little one to be suffering just b/c people are going to want to be against giving her anything to help her.  Is there anything I can do to make sure they are constantly watching for signs of withdrawals?  Any sort of tests I can demand like as far as the levels in her system or something?  Anything I can do to help her, both while in the hospital and after she comes home?  Will she be likely to be in the NICU for a while?"

    (and side note; only the administrators receive flags, the moderators do not see them. Tagging a moderator in the thread, or shooting us a pm is a more efficient way to alert us)

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  • MegsueMegsue
    Posts: 1,848Member
    @MellowYellow covered most of the stuff that I would have said. You have a long tough road ahead of you, and your baby does too. Congratulations on your work on sobriety. I know how tough that is, my DH is an addict and I've seen how he struggles everyday because of it. He just recently went back to the methadone clinic too. He got scared that with him making lots of money this summer (he's a lobster fisherman) that he'll fuck up again. I am so proud that he admits that, and got himself help before anything happened.
    But back to your baby: the withdrawal your baby is going to go through is excruciating and almost unbearable for even hospital staff to watch. And even though you're in a recovery program and doing the right thing, your baby is going through withdrawal because of YOU. And yes, the hospital staff will find that hard to swallow. BUT if they treat you or your baby with anything but respect then call them out for it. If they apologize and stay professional, fine, if not file a complaint. Doctors and nurses are Hand picked to work in the NICU to be professional and sympathetic to situations such as yours.
    One last thing, is there a specific reason why the clinic you are going to didn't switch you to suboxone rather than methadone when you found out you were pregnant? Hate to sound snarky here, but that's what suboxone is for...so babies don't go into withdrawal! That shit makes me angry.
  • pdxmama
    Posts: 1,470Member
    @megsue in your state do they give pregnant women suboxone in a treatment setting? I agree that it would seem to be a way better solution. Unfortunately, in Oregon at least they won't prescribe it for pregnant women. There's not enough studies behind it or some such bullshit. I know that there has been extensive research done in France, and results have been good. They've been using it as an opiate replacement therapy in pregnant women there for years. I hope that we get to a place in this country where it becomes the standard procedure. I think unfortunately that a lot of it comes down to money as well. So, especially the state medicaid programs would rather pay for methadone bc its about a tenth of the price, which really sucks! One potential problem with suboxone too is that with the opiate blocker in it, you can't have any narcotics whatsoever until like 24+ hrs after your last dose. So, if there were any problems requiring say an emergency c - section for example it could be a problem. Shit, I've had 2 emergency sections and I damn sure couldn't have waited 24 hours for pain meds after that epidural wore off, lol.
  • MegsueMegsue
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    Lol @pdxmama I wouldn't want to wait either! Here in Maine, yes it's common practice to switch a pregnant woman to suboxone because of the baby not having any withdrawal from it at all. It's amazing stuff in my book. Although the clinics here have to warn the mother obviously of the risk they take with not being able to have any pain meds for themselves for 24 hours. Generally by then, the mother is weaned to a low enough dose that she won't even need to take it during her due date week. And most mothers choose 24 hours of pain temselves rather than the risk of methadone withdrawal for the baby.
    That's the other beautiful thing about suboxone, it helps your brain reprogram itself and those natural endorphins start working again so you only have to be on suboxone for months vs. YEARS of methadone.
  • WildandFree
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    @megsue same deal here in my state. They do not prescribe suboxone unless your insurance covers it as it is more expensive than methadone, but the benefits especially to the baby far outweigh the cons! And you are spot on as well!
  • BellaBefanaBellaBefana
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    @pdxmama:  it's not the money that prevents the research here in the states.  It's the fact that pregnant women are a "protected class" in the research world, or rather their unborn children.  It's practically an Act of Congress to get the FDA to approve studies involving unborn babies.

    I'm not especially familiar with this particular drug, but I find it intriguing that it has a narcotic combined with Narcan.  I must research this.

    I have watched one of my uncles fight heroin addiction since I was a little girl.  He was enrolled in one of the first methadone clinics, and I'm 100% sure because of that he's still alive. I'm also 100% sure because of him, I've never even experimented.

    I find it refreshing that @SqueakyTweaky is doing her best to stay clean, and has been far longer than she's been pregnant.  I guess it's hard for people who don't understand addictions to know what a tremendous feat this is.  This is why I was so personally offended by the one comment.
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  • Icansellouttoo
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    Okay, let me put things in perspective then. She is trying to give away her child she just got back from child protective services and she seems to be more concerned about her doctors being judgemental of her past than she is about them saving her baby's life. If she wants words of support, fine here goes, I hope your babyu lives and doesn't die a painful death from withdrawel because of the decissions you've made with your life. I'm sure the doctors will do whatever they can for your bundle of joy. I hope you stay clean and sober for the sake of your children and you wake up and realize what you've put them through.
  • WildandFree
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    Ok, at the risk of having stones thrown at me as well, I'm agreeing with @icansellouttoo oh well.
  • AnonUser28
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    I agree with parts of the statement, but I fail to see where you get the impression that she is more concerned with judgements than the baby. Her question is asking specifically what she should look for to make sure the best thing is done for baby, not about how she can prevent people from judging her.
  • chaosmomchaosmom
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    @icansellouttoo, the OP was actually asking for ways to ensure her baby received proper medical treatment once born, not being concerned over the drs being judgmental towards her. Please go back & re-read her post. I'm sure the OP has also said worse things to herself than you could possibly think of. She knows her mistakes & she is working on correcting them. Unless you have been an addict, you have no idea how difficult it is to get & stay clean. People make mistakes but we can also learn from those & better ourselves.
  • Charlotte_SometimesCharlotte_Sometimes
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    Actually what @SqueakyTweaky said was: " I don't want my little one to be suffering just b/c people are going to want to be against giving her anything to help her."

    That sounds to me like she is worried about people being judgmental and it affecting her BABY negatively.  Not like she's concerned about being judged herself.

    As far as her daughter goes, I think she is recognizing the fact that she doesn't know that child at all due to her bad choices and that it might be better for the child to not be uprooted again  I think that takes a lot of courage, actually, to admit.
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  • motherofdragonsmotherofdragons
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    The fact is there really isn't any thing she can do, it's illegal for her doctor's to show bias and as such are obligated to do what they can to save her life. I don't think anyone would risk having their license taken away by letting a baby suffer.
  • BellaBefanaBellaBefana
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    @motherofdragons:  be that as it may, and I know of no doctor who would intentionally cause suffering to ANYONE, much less an infant, she has real fears.

    @SqueakyTweaky:  rest assured, they will take very good care of your baby.  but I think to rest YOUR mind, talk to the neonatal staff where you will deliver.  Be honest with them  about your situation and your fears.
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  • Charlotte_SometimesCharlotte_Sometimes
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    I think it's always best to be prepared, informed, and aware in ANY health care situation.  True story;  when our DD9 was six, she was hospitalized for six weeks with double pneumonia.  She was intubated 3 times,  She had chest tubes to drain fluid.  She was on several meds, antibiotics and pain meds and sedatives.

     At some point during her hospitalization, after removing her breathing tube, some doctor ordered cessation of ALL her pain meds.  Just like that.  And what we saw in her was clearly withdrawal.  She was miserable!  And psychotic!  We had no idea what had happened until the next morning and we kind of went off on the doctor on duty and he was out of the loop as well and pissed and shocked!  They put her back on the meds then proceeded to slowly wean her off but let me tell you, it was traumatic and awful.   Stuff happens.   I don't go into a medical situation with my kids looking to be antagonizing or second guessing everyone but I am very careful and watchful due to past experiences.   I think that's always a good idea.

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    In order to be learned"

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  • shadylaneshadylane
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    @icansellouttoo, that is an ignorant statement, there is no chance of her baby dying a painful death b/c of methadone. It will be very closely monitored. U obviously know nothing about this subject. Would u rather her be shooting dope to keep from going into withdrawal? B/c if she just stopped everything cold turkey, the baby would die.
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  • jezebeldelilahjezebeldelilah
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    I happen to be very well versed on this topic and I would like to share my knowledge. First of all methadone is stronger than almost all narcotics including heroin. It binds to the receptors in the brain differently as well. Because of how "well" it binds it last much longer in the system and withdrawals are much more severe. Saying this when giving it to a preggo a doctor has to outweigh the risky behavior of using drugs vs. A maintenance dose of one drug a day with less crazy addict behavior. Withdrawals will start 24-48 hrs after birth and will last up to several weeks to months. Most babies will be tube fed and be on heart monitors and have respiration very closely monitored. Morphine is the choice drug for doctors to wean the baby off of narcotics. Other is natural and 1/20th the strength if methadone. Cps will be involved and most likely monitor the mother and her sobriety. This is a painstaking tedious life threatening process that should be taken very seriously. The main goal of the mother should be to maintain her sobriety while under this stress and allow the doctors to do what they do. I personally Hate methadone it is harder to kick than most other narcs due to its long half life and its metabolic behaviors. Suboxone is worse and has withdrawals that can last months. Suboxone is good for acute cases of withdrawal and should be used only during the duration of severe symptoms. Anyways stay clean. Go to meetings and ask for help when you need it. You have a long road ahead of you but if you want this child and a good life you can never use drugs again. Part of your journey will be accepting that. No beer not one joint they are just as bad as a needle in your arm because they will take you right back there. The doctors are very well versed on how to manage this your not the first women to birth an addicted baby and sure not the last. I'm not a doctor only a college student that's getting my rn and specializing in addiction care. Please stay clean for your lil peanut. My parents were addicts and it is not an easy road but it is possible to win. Good luck
  • LargeMargeSentMe
    Posts: 120Member
    I don't have any advice or knowledge about methadone during pregnancy but I wanted to express my support. My sister was a heroin addict and after many, many attempts she was able to get clean with methadone. She tried everything else but that was what worked and we're all so grateful there was a program available. She has been clean for about eight years and weaned off of methadone years ago. Best wishes to you and your little one.
  • AnonUser24
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    Nobody should be telling *you* how things should be. If you want your babies, and are willing to put them first, above all, power to you girl!! You have the capability if you are willing to put in the work. :x
  • shadylaneshadylane
    Posts: 3,037Member
    Ur absolutely right @freedomlover. Ok I have never said this before on here b/c of fear of this kind of stuff but my dd was born on methadone and she had no withdrawal symptoms whatsoever. Cps did not get involved.
    ~slim shady~
  • AnonUser28
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    @shadylane Hugs to you girl! That was a very brave thing to have admitted right now. I'm sure your story will give tons of inspiration to squeaky, and any other women in her situation. I don't really know you well, but I can honestly say that I am so proud of you! xxxooo