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What do you tell your kid about his father if his father is a POS?
  • weezerweezer
    Posts: 290Member
    If you haven't read my loooong thread in "relationships", here's the cliffnotes: my STBXH is not physically abusive to me or the baby, but he regularly has sudden tantrums at me where he screams and throws things (not at me, but near me) and is very physically threatening ("casually" holds a knife or large blunt object sometimes but doesn't *directly* threaten me with it). All of this has been escalating since I got pregnant. He also yells at our 5 month old baby if he fusses and he refuses to do anything to comfort him (prefers instead to let him sit in the swing or carseat for hours in a wet diaper). He is physically and verbally abusive to my dog, and threatens physical violence to her frequently as a way to get to me. He has an older DS (my SS) who recently chose to live with us over his mother, and he neglects him constantly. I truly believe that his emotional/financial/psychological abuse will escalate to physical, given time or the right circumstances.

    Ok. So I'm in the process of leaving him (haven't physically left yet but working on it) and I'm very much hoping to
    be able to get sole custody with zero visitation for STBXH. I think that would be
    the healthiest, safest thing for both me and DS. If I am able to keep my baby away from this shithead, what do I tell him when he's old enough to wonder where his father is? I don't want to lie and say that he's a good guy only to have my son seek him out later on, and I don't want to give him a complex by telling him that his dad is a POS. WWYD?
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  • GritsGrits
    Posts: 3,854Member
    That's a tough spot. I think if it was me, I'd be as honest as his age allows. Does he need details? At first, probably not. Something like "Your daddy wasn't very nice to us, so I moved us away from him to make sure you were safe and happy. Maybe one day he'll realize how great you are and try to be a better person." Then maybe as he gets older and wants to know, you can divulge more details if he needs them. IDK, just a suggestion, but I've not dealt with this first hand. I'm sure there are SMs who have dealt with this and will have some amazing advice for you!
    "I believe in being strong when everything seems to be going wrong. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I believe in miracles." ~Audrey Hepburn
  • MaryPoppins25
    Posts: 1,686Member
    My sister is going through this right now with my 6 yo niece. It's very hard, for my niece, my sister, and everyone who has to witness her sad about her douchbag father. My sister has told my niece that her father is sick (mentally ill) and that is why he can't see her right now. If he gets better he will come and visit again. I mean what can you say? You're right you can't tell them their dad's a pos and you can't lie really. We look at it like he is sick in the head, too sick to want to care for the child he created :@

    Hugs mama. Just know you're doing what's right by your baby and he will thank you for it one day. I know I'm glad my mom left my dad.
  • tothemoonandbacktothemoonandback
    Posts: 2,267Member
    Wow.. I have no advice, but I'm really proud of you for leaving!
    Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius, and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring. - Marilyn Monroe
  • ZidashaZidasha
    Posts: 830Member
    Well, if he gets zero visitation and you have no further contact with him you wouldn't be lying if you didn't know where he was.

    If Ds asks why you two are not together just simply tell him it just didn't work out between the two of you.  I'm sure he'll probably hear things from family and friends as he gets older and if he's really curious he'll ask around why it didn't work out. 

     Than again, he is still very young and who knows, you might find someone else and be completely happy and he'll be content with that.

    It's hard to be the bigger person but I am a firm believer in the truth does come out eventually.

    Good luck to you and your little one and big hugs.
    "I have a theory that placenta is brain matter I push out, so with each child I get dumber and dumber." ~ Unknown

  • PigeonPigeon
    Posts: 681Guest
    I worry about those questions too, but for different reasons. Until DD starts asking, I just don't talk about him. Once she starts asking, I plan on telling her a very abbreviated truth until she's older when she can full understand what happened.
  • shadylaneshadylane
    Posts: 3,037Member
    Isn't this sad there are so many of us that this has happened to
    ~slim shady~
  • Live4PeaceLive4Peace
    Posts: 320Member

    is he going to get violent if you cut him out of the kids lives completely?

    Honest as the kids can handle it is good.  You would tell a 10 year old something different than a 5 year old.  your STBXH most likely does have some mental issues because he can not deal with reality, so you aren't lying if you say he was sick and needed help.

    I'm always misunderstood because the written word is the worst form of communication...you can't see me smiling =-)
  • etherieletheriel
    Posts: 735Member
    I've been through that myself, except XH did eventually get abusive with me and his throwing things scared the hell out of the kids. I had to tell my kids that Daddy has something wrong in his brain that he refuses to see a doctor about and until he does, he's not really able to take care of them. Now that my kids are older and seeing a psychiatrist for their ADHD, they understand a little bit better that Daddy has some mental issues that he needs to take care of but isn't. The mental issues aren't his fault, but not seeing a doctor about them is his fault.
    If I'm not supposed to do it, how come I can?
  • Charlotte_SometimesCharlotte_Sometimes
    Posts: 1,756Member
    Yeah basically what @etherial said.  

    My ex threw a MICROWAVE at me once.  He actually slid it down the entire length of the kitchen counter and I was standing at the end. I  hopped back in very last second knick of time to avoid it landing on me and this was a big microwave.  Kids were 6 and six months old at the time, it woke the baby and the six year old came running out of his room to see what was up.   exH said "Oh I didn't mean that to go in your direction..."  like hell! 

    That was his MO, to throw stuff at me then deny he was throwing it at me.  And it happened really infrequently so I "overlooked" it.  The last time was right before I told him to get out and it was years later, and he basically tossed his entire computer desk at me, with the tower and monitor and everything.  It hit my thigh and gave me a huge bruise the size of a dessert plate that was raised up 3/4 of an inch and uggggggly.    He promptly went to bed (!) and stayed there for almost 2 days and when he woke up he looked at my leg and said "Wow, that's a nasty bruise!" and his tone was totally that of someone who did not know how the bruise got there.  It was creepy.

    Needless to say he had/has mental health problems but he never would follow through on treatment or taking meds or anything and that is pretty much what I told the boys.  I didn't offer up info but when they asked, or when they were sad because he wouldn't call them on the phone I would explain that he was sick and needed help but had a hard time admitting that he was sick so he wasn't getting help.  I always told them that he loved them and just wasn't taking care of himself enough to show it.  Basically what @etherial said.

    It's been almost 10 years and they have come to their own realizations about him now, at 14 and 20.  The 20 year old is a little bitter about it and says things like "gee, mom, if I sit around and drink and play video games and call it depression will YOU support ME forever?" (cuz my ex's parents still support him).  My 14 year old, who is my ex's biological child (DS20 is not), is just kind of like "Well Dad sucks but I'll hang out with him when he asks because I love him even though he's messed up..."   he is much more accepting now.   And my ex has never been violent or aggressive towards the kids. 

    Neglectful, yes, but that's why I didn't let them go to him when they were younger unless his parents were going to be around.  Now they are old enough that they can go visit him a little an I know they are old enough to take care of themselves if he is doing his usual (which is usually nothing).  But he is "good" when they go visit.  Thanks to his parents he has plenty of cash when they are there so they eat out all the time and go to video game conventions and sporting events and whatever.

    The point of my long post is, I was always careful to not talk shit about him but I didn't lie for him either and while my youngest had a very hard time at first, they've both eventually learned on their own what the deal is with him and have come to terms with it.
    "But a lesson must be lived in order to be learned" Ani DiFranco, Manhole
    "Screw you guys! I'm going home." Eric Cartman
  • beachmommybeachmommy
    Posts: 2,668Member

    @charlotte_sometimes - OMG - I had an ex that threw a microwave at me too!  It hit my arm and left a huge bruise...believe it or not, that was my final "straw".  IDK why it took me so long to leave, but once he threw my "foodsource" it was OVER.   

    I can laugh about it now bc THAT crazy man sleeps with the worms.... What goes around comes around!

    My beach is still Sandy....
  • Charlotte_SometimesCharlotte_Sometimes
    Posts: 1,756Member

    @charlotte_sometimes - OMG - I had an ex that threw a microwave at me too!  It hit my arm and left a huge bruise...believe it or not, that was my final "straw".  IDK why it took me so long to leave, but once he threw my "foodsource" it was OVER.   

    I can laugh about it now bc THAT crazy man sleeps with the worms.... What goes around comes around!





    Should have been my final straw but my DS was just an infant and I hung in there like a fool for another 4.5 years!   What's with the "throwing stuff at you is not the same as hitting you" bullcrap?  Really.   When the throwing person is 6'3" 180, it can be worse than just hitting you! 
    "But a lesson must be lived in order to be learned" Ani DiFranco, Manhole
    "Screw you guys! I'm going home." Eric Cartman
  • etherieletheriel
    Posts: 735Member
    Sounds like my ex. He tried to throw a big old box-style TV at me. Thankfully he missed.
    If I'm not supposed to do it, how come I can?
  • Charlotte_SometimesCharlotte_Sometimes
    Posts: 1,756Member
    Good grief!  When my ex threw the computer and computer desk at me and made that huge bruise on my leg and my IL's asked what happened, I told them with no sugar coating.  MIL says to me "Oh yeah, he always did have a temper, used to put holes in the walls when he was a teenager..,."   as if it was just part of his personality.  I was like "Well I am his wife, not an inanimate object, I fail to see the relevance!!"   People.  I swear.
    "But a lesson must be lived in order to be learned" Ani DiFranco, Manhole
    "Screw you guys! I'm going home." Eric Cartman
  • meandmy243meandmy243
    Posts: 6,633Member
    Umm you dont kids have to learn it on their own... Sorry but thats life btw the missing parent is always god in their eyes.. With my own kids and my dss.. My dss mom is a meth/heroine addicted prostitute.. She has 4 kids 4 different dads and all of them taken away at or not to long affer birth.. My bf hooked up with her when she was a friend of his roomates in rehab and off the streets.. If he would have actually known about her past he wouldnt of touched her.. But life is complicated.. He says the condom broke or slipped off.. I just think he was drunk and on e when it went down... Oh well hes std free...
    mom of wild children
    going to the chapel 7/5/2014
  • bombkittybombkitty
    Posts: 306Member
    I would just tell your child it didn't work out, then as they get a little older you can elaborate that they didn't treat you correctly.  My XH is a turd and I just kept my explanations to my DS mature.  I figured I would take the high road.  When he was older, like 11 or 12, I gave him some more details about why it didn't work out.  Of course, he has visitation and figured out for himself that his dad was a shit, which is way better than me telling him.
    Good luck, making that decision to leave is the hardest part.  I'm sorry you've had to go through this!