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  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    So... it's been a rough few days physically. I decided last night to go to a SM house... for dinner and drinks... and to stay the night. (cuz we were drinkin!)

    So I head towards home (which should have been an easy 2 hour train/bus ride) which.. turned into a 5 hour... just messed up drama.

    I'll skip why cuz this is in "health".

    So, I hope off of a bus. I have on a VERY heavy back pack... and I am headed to the store. store parking lot is at the base of this grass embankment. I've walked down this embankment probably... two dozen times. It's steep but doable. No big deal right? (Plus unlike you guys, I'm not hauling babies!)

    I take one step on the grass, go to take the other and ... the grass is wet. Body went one way, leg went another, knee went another... as I slid the entire way down the hill (about.. oh... 20 feet? maybe 15).

    I'm embarrassed... my butt hurts... and then I stand up. and I get excruciating pain from ankle to knee...

    Walk it off I say... WALK IT OFF.

    I'm limping across the parking lot in tears... WALK IT OFF.... my knee is shooting pain.... I get inside... find the bathroom and throw up it's so bad.

    Mind you... I have an excessively high pain tolerance. So I'm like... ok. I twisted it or strained it or something... then I realize it doesn't hurt in the same way when I've twisted my knee before... it hurts BEHIND... every.step. hurts.

    I text my best friend Nikki... who tore her ACL and LCL (I think it's an LCL? ECL? WTF IS IT?!) about 2 years ago playing rugby and has had several surgeries to fix it... I tell her what I did and what the pain feels like... she calls me and asks a few questions.

    We decide I'll go home, ice it, elevate it, and see. cuz if it's a sprain or strain I figure if I'm off of it and ice it and elevate it... it'll only hurt when I'm on it (or you know flex my leg etc) basically use it

    I've now been home for 3 hours. It seems (after talking to Nikki) and "nurse line" I've probably torn my ACL. I've iced it and elevated it... and I'm having shooting pains from my knee to ankle.. the way I described it is it's like I'm having a muscle spasm I can't feel... and it's causing pain.

    The pain isn't as bad as it was when I was walking on it. ... unless I walk on it. lol. and tmi moment but I walked to the kitchen.. sucking it up (have to make dinner!) i'm standing there on my other leg... and not thinking I go to turn around and take a step... and owwwwwwww... I threw up in the kitchen sink :( (the room mates have decided we don't need garbage bags for some reason.... so I couldn't throw up in the trash)

    I just... had to vent. I swear by all that's holy if I did something serious I'm going to hurt someone! .... I don't know who! but someone!

    Has anyone else torn something like this? Cuz this SUCKS. :(
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • unforgivenunforgiven
    Posts: 12,699Confessional Manager
    Oh no! I'm so sorry you fell! I have no advice even though I'm such a clumsy fool I've been fortunate enough not to have broken anything. I hope you feel better soon.  >:D<

    confessional-manager

    "What looks like torture is a time to rejoice
    What sounds like thunder is a comforting voice
    When what is beautiful looks broken and crushed
    And I say I don't know you
    But you say it's finished"
  • CalliopemarieCalliopemarie
    Posts: 4,326Member
    I hope its nothing that bad!!!!! I'm so sorry it happened
    i am insane!!! mwahahahaha
  • BellaBefanaBellaBefana
    Posts: 8,171Member
    ACLs, etc, are the ligaments in your knee...acl= anterior cruciate ligamen, LCL: lateral cruciate ligament.  You get the idea.

    You very well could have damaged one of them, they're relatively fragile and susceptible to rotation injuries.  If you're not feeling significantly better by Monday or Tuesday, I'd make an appointment.  If it's actually torn, you'll likely need intervention...

    @foulmouthedsailor probably knows more about these kinds of injuries being a corpsman.
    Bite me, cupcake!
  • unforgivenunforgiven
    Posts: 12,699Confessional Manager
    I hope it's not the ACL because those injuries are seriously painful. :( 

    [-O< for you. 

    confessional-manager

    "What looks like torture is a time to rejoice
    What sounds like thunder is a comforting voice
    When what is beautiful looks broken and crushed
    And I say I don't know you
    But you say it's finished"
  • momofdbbmomofdbb
    Posts: 9,070Member
    Ouch!!!! I'm sorry. I hope it is not too bad. XH tore his minuscus ( spelling) and he is still limping.
    " Wibbly wobbly timey wimey ......." The Doctor
    " I'm a leafe on the wind..watch how I soar ." Wash :((
    " Oh the wall had it comming.' Sherlock Holmes
    yea I am geek !!
  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    Thanks @bellabfana ! I couldn't remember... I thought it was LCL but that seemed... too easy lol

    Here's hoping @foulmouthedsailor can pop in and offer advice.

    All I know is every time I move this thing there are pretty colorful words leaving my mouth. :)

    I'm giving it til Mondayish... if I see even a tiny bit of improvement I'll give it til tuesday.
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    @momofdbb and @unforgiven Yeah... those are supposed to be bad too. you'd think after all this evolution crap like this wouldn't happen ;)


    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • FoulMouthedSailorFoulMouthedSailor
    Posts: 1,893Member
    @Luvlyssa It could be a number of things, and right now the best thing to do is keep it elevated above your heart, it keeps it from swelling. If you know some one with a set of crutches ask for them, you want to keep pressure off of it. Also ice it for 15 minutes, take the ice off for 10 minutes, keep it as iced as much as possible. Take Motrin or Tylenol, keep track of what you take, and when you take it, for when you go to the hospital. If you can get a compression wrap like an Ace wrap bandage, or a knee brace, keep it wrapped up as much as possible. Also its important to try and articulate as often as possible, its going to hurt but its beneficial.

    You might have hyper-extended your knee, maybe torn some cartilage, maybe your meniscus, or ACL. Its hard to judge what happen with out actually physically examining it, if it gets worse in the next 24 hours go to the Er.
    You show the lights that stop me turn to stone, You shine it when I'm alone. And so I tell myself that I'll be strong
    And dreaming when they're gone.
  • SammieSammie
    Posts: 7,277Administrator, Moderator
    OH MY!! I'm so sorry this happened. Do you have any anti-inflammatory meds or pain pills? Have you thought about going to the ER? At least they could wrap it for you, or give you a cast/boot thingy if necessary and some meds? I'm betting you will need to see an orthopedist. I would not let this wait if it doesn't feel better by Monday. Call your doctor! I'm hoping it feels better with some rest and TLC. Hugs!!

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  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    @foulmouthedsailor *hugs* Thanks for the advice. I promise to not suggest anyone kick you again (or kick you myself.)

    The swelling seems to have... slowed. it's above my heart and I was doing 15 minutes of ice 15 off but I'll change it to 15 on 10 off.

    I'm walking on it... it hurts like a son of a motherless goat...there are a lot of profanities but... gotta get the ice.

    I don't have an ace bandage or knee brace... or crutches lol. I DO have aleve and tylenol.  I took aleve...

    Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. This is just something I'm not familiar with.
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    @sammie just regular OTC stuff :) I was actually only two blocks from the ER when this happened... but I'm kind of a stubborn brat. i hadn't thought about the fact that they could wrap it and boot me... I just figured they'd be like "meh wimp! GO HOME WITH YE!' (in my head people often talk like the english/pirates)
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • FoulMouthedSailorFoulMouthedSailor
    Posts: 1,893Member
    @Luvlyssa Not all injuries like that require surgery, so thats the bight side. But I would go get it checked out asap, if something is torn you're going to need some type of physical therapy and treatment. Just watch what you OTC stuff you take, use common sense stuff like checking for acetaminophen in products if you're already taking it. You can stack up Aleve and Motrin, or alternate them. Just don't take to much, you don't want an upset stomach on top of it. Keep hydrated and have something to eat if you take more than recommended.
    You show the lights that stop me turn to stone, You shine it when I'm alone. And so I tell myself that I'll be strong
    And dreaming when they're gone.
  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    @foulmouthedsailor *nods* stacking meds scares me... so I generally don't do it. just one of those "things" even though I know it's safe, I worry.

    I'm drinking a ton of water... cuz I always do ;) plus blood sugar is elevated for some reason so I'm extra thirsty!
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • KellynnKellynn
    Posts: 1,978Member
    I'm so sorry, @Luvlyssa. I hope you have something for the pain. I hate to think of you being in agony all weekend. Maybe you should go to the er tomorrow if it's not better. At least they could help with a diagnosis and some painkillers. Let us know how you are doing, ok?
  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    @cklw you guys are so much more LOGICAL (and less stubborn) than I am:) This is why I love Scary Daddies and mommies
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • DreamerDreamer
    Posts: 2,266Member
     Owie is right!  Hope you feel better soon.
    There are some people who live in a dream world, and there are some who face reality; and then there are those who turn one into the other. Which one are you?
  • FoulMouthedSailorFoulMouthedSailor
    Posts: 1,893Member
    Hey it could have been alot worse, like a broken back or a compound fracture. Nothing like a bone breaking through the skin.
    You show the lights that stop me turn to stone, You shine it when I'm alone. And so I tell myself that I'll be strong
    And dreaming when they're gone.
  • momofdbbmomofdbb
    Posts: 9,070Member
    @Luvlyssa  I hope your knee feels better soon. My mom always says if she has any injury or stress her sugars go haywire!!
    " Wibbly wobbly timey wimey ......." The Doctor
    " I'm a leafe on the wind..watch how I soar ." Wash :((
    " Oh the wall had it comming.' Sherlock Holmes
    yea I am geek !!
  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    @momofdbb *nods* stress and illness do it to me... but I don't think I've been hurt this bad before. I typically blow off injuries... lol this one just wont' let me. so maybe it's illness, stress, and injuries ;)
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • FoulMouthedSailorFoulMouthedSailor
    Posts: 1,893Member
    @Luvlyssa Any increased swelling or notable changes? If it was an ACL tear it would a lot more agitated and swollen by now.
    You show the lights that stop me turn to stone, You shine it when I'm alone. And so I tell myself that I'll be strong
    And dreaming when they're gone.
  • momofdbbmomofdbb
    Posts: 9,070Member
    Maybe. XH said when he hurt his knee he heard a tearing poping noise and it felt like a gunshot. Like he has any clue what that is like , not !
    " Wibbly wobbly timey wimey ......." The Doctor
    " I'm a leafe on the wind..watch how I soar ." Wash :((
    " Oh the wall had it comming.' Sherlock Holmes
    yea I am geek !!
  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    @foulmouthedsailor I don't think it can swell anymore. but it fucking hurts worse. I'm now not walking on it :) I can't... every time I move it in the least it HURTS.
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • FoulMouthedSailorFoulMouthedSailor
    Posts: 1,893Member
    @Luvlyssa not good. I'd hit the Er as soon as you could, they should be able to tell if it's ACL tear with a simple hand exam. They may want X-rays to see if anything moved bone wise, or a MRI to look for soft tissue damage.
    You show the lights that stop me turn to stone, You shine it when I'm alone. And so I tell myself that I'll be strong
    And dreaming when they're gone.
  • FoulMouthedSailorFoulMouthedSailor
    Posts: 1,893Member
    @Luvlyssa I didn't think about it earlier, but they teach us to use house hold items to make splints and other stuff. If you have some type of nylon pantyhose, you can use that as an ace bandage, just lay it flat, over lap it a bit each time you go around, make t tight but not enough to cut of circulation or hurt yourself
    You show the lights that stop me turn to stone, You shine it when I'm alone. And so I tell myself that I'll be strong
    And dreaming when they're gone.
  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    @foulmouthedsailor OMG i do! (I hate them.) They'll totally work. Finally a use for something I hate! :)
    ER tomorrow morning... Thank you so much!
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • pdxmama
    Posts: 1,470Member
    Please go to the ER first thing in the morning @luvlyssa! If you're in that much pain you need something stronger than Tylenol. And, you need to know exactly what the injury is, so it can be treated correctly. Big huge hugs to you, I hope they can do something for it.
  • PurpleFlowersPurpleFlowers
    Posts: 5,629Member
    Waiting to see how the ER visit went. Hope its fine and you didnt even need to go >:D<
    Stay away from my chocolate and nobody gets hurt!

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  • chaosmomchaosmom
    Posts: 3,846Member
    *will be harrassing you until you get to the damn dr*

    Quit being stubborn & go, please. Hope you are doing ok. Hugs
  • French_momFrench_mom
    Posts: 1,540Member
    Thinking about you everytime i move my knees. 

    I am with @chaosmom  we wont stop until you go.  You might be stubborn, but I think  a gang of us againts you might wear you out :P Oh i know want us to sic @MammaTeeRoll on you ? she can be scary ! 

    Just go to the ER honey pls.  Hope it is nothing too bad. Big hugs. 
    It is for me to know and you to dot dot dot.
  • pdxmama
    Posts: 1,470Member
    Let us know what the doctor says ok?
  • chaosmomchaosmom
    Posts: 3,846Member
    @luvlyssa, I am hoping that the reason you haven't been on today is because you are at the ER getting help. Let us know you are ok as soon as you can. I have this horrible image of you lying on the floor, alone, in agony. And with your sugar acting up? Gees. Hope you are ok.
  • CalliopemarieCalliopemarie
    Posts: 4,326Member
    Hoping that you made it to the doc! Update us soon!!!
    i am insane!!! mwahahahaha
  • Peace
    Posts: 2,080Member
    ^ yes, please tell us you saw a doctor...
  • StarsStars
    Posts: 1,054Member
    I think she's a west coaster or mountain time.  Waiting to hear too!  Hope its alright.
    apsycho

  • FoulMouthedSailorFoulMouthedSailor
    Posts: 1,893Member
    Yeah she's in Utah, I hope she went to the ER, and it's not to serious. I wish she would check in because I hate seeing some need care in limbo. Hopefully she got some sleep too, goig into the ER while tired just makes everything seem worse.
    You show the lights that stop me turn to stone, You shine it when I'm alone. And so I tell myself that I'll be strong
    And dreaming when they're gone.
  • French_momFrench_mom
    Posts: 1,540Member
    we are all motherhen with each other it is awsome.


    I am waiting for news too here. Crossing fingers and toes that she is taken care of. The controle freak in me wish i was close to her so i would make sure she goes to the ER, for her well being and my sanity. 
    It is for me to know and you to dot dot dot.
  • AnonUser28
    Posts: 2,083Guest
    Owie is right! Hope you are at the docs, waiting to hear how you did. Hugs!
  • CalliopemarieCalliopemarie
    Posts: 4,326Member
    Hope we hearfrom you soon!
    i am insane!!! mwahahahaha
  • irishlassirishlass
    Posts: 6,726Member
    Oh no!! Are you okay!??? Update us!!!
    "Be who you are and say what you feel. Because those who matter don't mind and those who mind don't matter." - Dr. Seuss
  • PurpleFlowersPurpleFlowers
    Posts: 5,629Member
    Its getting late....hope you're ok @luvlyssa
    Stay away from my chocolate and nobody gets hurt!

    I think I like who I am becoming...
  • chaosmomchaosmom
    Posts: 3,846Member
    *stalking the thread* waiting to hear from you honey
  • unforgivenunforgiven
    Posts: 12,699Confessional Manager
    WHERE ARE YOU? We will not rest until we are updated.  >:D<

    confessional-manager

    "What looks like torture is a time to rejoice
    What sounds like thunder is a comforting voice
    When what is beautiful looks broken and crushed
    And I say I don't know you
    But you say it's finished"
  • French_momFrench_mom
    Posts: 1,540Member
    Does she have a SM buddy ? 

    like everybody else .. stalking the thread....

    It is for me to know and you to dot dot dot.
  • CalliopemarieCalliopemarie
    Posts: 4,326Member
    Come back!!!
    i am insane!!! mwahahahaha
  • Luvlyssa
    Posts: 2,935Member
    @... everyone lol
    Hi!
    Our internet had a tantrum this morning... sorry
    So... I went to the hospital when my room mate saw me trying to gimp around.
    .. sunday in an ER ... so not fun. So glad I had my kindle.

    So they couldn't tell manually if it was a tear @foulmouthedsailor ... they LOVED the pantyhose idea. cracked them up to hear "a guy in the military told me to do it" but they were impressed (although I did apparently have them too tight... not much)

    Couldn't tell due to swelling if it was a tear or what. They gave me an IV right away (I was dehydrated from blood sugar issues... grrrrr) finally got an MRI. no tear. thank god. still a ton of pain and swelling. They offered me prescription strength advil... (yay!) ... oh wait no. I'd been taking that! But I took it anyway... Seems to take the VERY worst edge off of pain. So I'll be happy.

    (and then we had a whole nother drama with diabetes but...

    All is well. I'm aced bandaged up... it hurts like a mo fo still... and I have crutches. those suckers hurt! man my armpit need like.... callouses

    I guess the old saying that  sprain hurts worse and takes longer to heal than anything else is true... cuz this baby HURTS!

    (and... honestly I'm not sure I trusted the doc. nice guy but... I think it's more than a sprain. he didn't seem very confident with anything, the knee or the diabetes issues)
    Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming, swimming, swimming. What do we do? We swim, swim.
  • unforgivenunforgiven
    Posts: 12,699Confessional Manager
    Glad you're ok. :)

    confessional-manager

    "What looks like torture is a time to rejoice
    What sounds like thunder is a comforting voice
    When what is beautiful looks broken and crushed
    And I say I don't know you
    But you say it's finished"
  • French_momFrench_mom
    Posts: 1,540Member
    OMG YOU ARE ALIVE !!!    :D

    I am so glade you have no tear. It still suck with the swelling and all. But pain killers are nice.  I am sorry about the diabetes issues. 


    It is for me to know and you to dot dot dot.
  • chaosmomchaosmom
    Posts: 3,846Member
    Ummm, yeah. Thanks for checking in with us ;-)

    Glad you are ok. Take it easy. USE THE CRUTCHES. Yes, I raised my voice at you lol. But seriously, stay off of it ok? It needs time to heal. Don't try to tough it out. Just let it do it's thing. The diabetes thing? Is this a big thing we should be worried about? Like, is your sugar going scary high?
  • CalliopemarieCalliopemarie
    Posts: 4,326Member
    Yay! Glad to hear from you.
    i am insane!!! mwahahahaha
  • Peace
    Posts: 2,080Member
    Finally! :-w

    I hope you're feeling better today..glad they did the MRI. The acl tear would have meant surgery, etc., etc. That must be a pretty bad sprain.
    You're officially on the rice routine...rest, ice, compression, elevation.

    Use your arm muscles with the crutches, if you're leaning on them wrong, your pits will hurt.
    On the upside, your arms will look nice & toned quickly. :)

    Watch your blood sugar & please take care of yourself!
    Feel better, sweetie...


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