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  • Monkeynmoo
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    My sons fever is 104.2, it's never benn that high and the on call service can't get ahold of his doctor.
  • [Deleted User]
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    Tylenol or Advil and run a cool (not cold) bath for him. You can give both Tylenol and Advil on a cycle (Tylenol every 4 hours/Advil every 6) to stay ahead of the fever.


    How old is he?
  • unforgivenunforgiven
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    Lots of fluids too. I hope he feels better soon.  :(

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    What sounds like thunder is a comforting voice
    When what is beautiful looks broken and crushed
    And I say I don't know you
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  • Monkeynmoo
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    He is three and had Tylenol and Motrin an hour ago, it was 103.3 then and just went up.... He won't even let me touch him, he I shivering all ready so a bath would make his shivers worse right?
  • [Deleted User]
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    Additionally: you might want to give a double dose of acetaminophen right away. This is coming from the Dr. Sears web page:


    First step – decide if the fever warrants treatment as discussed above.
    Medications

    Acetaminophen– this fever reducer/pain reliever has been around a long time and is effective is most cases. It can be given every 4 hours. Click on it for dosing chart.
    New research in 2001 has shown that giving an initial double dose of acetaminophen for high fevers is both safe and more effective to bring down that high fever fast. Only give a double dose if the fever is high. You can only give a double dose once every few days if needed. Any other doses should be the regular dose.
    Ibuprofen– this newer medication is also effective for fever and pain. It often works better for higher fevers, and lasts longer too. It can be given every 6 hours. It was previously only approved for children 6 months and older. Recently it was approved safe and effective for infants down to two months of age. Click on it for dosing chart.

    Using both medications – it is best to only use one of these two medications. However, if one by itself isn't enough or wears off too soon, then it is safe to give the other medication on top of the first without waiting. Another option is to alternate between them every 3 hours. Give acetaminophen at 8:00, ibuprofen at 11:00, acetaminophen at 2:00 and so on.
    WARNING – don't give ASPIRIN to children 12 and under.
  • Monkeynmoo
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    @chocoholic, we have been doing the cycle thing with the drugs since about 4 and have only got it down to 102.8. The only difference is he takes both at the same time every 5 hours per his ped who I talked to at about 6:30.
  • [Deleted User]
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    It might be ER time if the fever has gone up while on medication.

    I would go to the ER
  • unforgivenunforgiven
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    I agree. If his fevers gone up while on meds, it's ER time. Keep up posted. 

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    "What looks like torture is a time to rejoice
    What sounds like thunder is a comforting voice
    When what is beautiful looks broken and crushed
    And I say I don't know you
    But you say it's finished"
  • Monkeynmoo
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    Ok, hospital it is! Thanks lady's for being quick, I feel out when my babies are sick
  • [Deleted User]
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    Totally understandable! Good luck mama- keep us posted!
  • Happy_JackHappy_Jack
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    ER - he also may be dehydrated and that will not let his body cool down on its own
  • onetimeonetime
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    Er, but stay calm, kids can sustain a high fever like that without permanent damage. No need to get worked up, they will get it down.
    Suck it up buttercup!
  • AnonUser30
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    I agree with ER. Most likely nothing, but don't take the risk. And find a new doctor.
  • fatchickonabikefatchickonabike
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    I hope everything's okay. But I agree with the other ladies - if the fever goes up instead of down after meds, something's going on that needs closer examination. Hugs!
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  • jezebeldelilahjezebeldelilah
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    E r. Time hope he's ok!
  • BeautifulDefianceBeautifulDefiance
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    Hope everything goes well. My daughter used to have chronic ear infections which cause petit mal seizures. She didn't convulse, but she stared into space and couldn't focus and couldn't respond. So sorry the little one is suck but ER is the best solution if the fever won't come down even with meds. And a tepid bath with cause goosebumps and shivers which can increase a fever accordin to my pediatrician
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  • irishlassirishlass
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    Aww i hope he is okay! Keep us updated xx
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  • momofdbbmomofdbb
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    Two of my kids had seizures with fevers. They usually were caused by ear infections.
    " Wibbly wobbly timey wimey ......." The Doctor
    " I'm a leafe on the wind..watch how I soar ." Wash :((
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  • ChristyJChristyJ
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    @madme and @dreamnofpalmtrees, yes high fevers will cause convulsions and seizures, apparently I had them as a kid,  Whenever Alex's would get above 102 I would go to the Urgent Treatment immediately.  Keep us updated Mommy. 
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  • Monkeynmoo
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    Well, I'm glad I took him in.... My the time we got there his fever was over 105... And we don't live far from the hospital, it took 10 minutes to get there. He was complaining of really bad lower right abdominal pain, I didn't think anything of it because he was saying his whole body hurt. They did an US for appendicitis but couldn't locate the appendix because he would lay still.... About punched a dude for snapping at him to lay still. It hasn't been ruled out so we are having to watch him closely and if anything on the list of symptoms the doc gave us appears we have to take him back straight away!
  • SammieSammie
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    Poor guy!! Did they have any other ideas of what it could be? Did his fever go back down? I can't believe someone snapped at him!! X( X( What a dick!!

    Hope your boy feels better soon!!

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  • MistressHeidiMistressHeidi
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    I hope he feels better soon. Poor kids, it's so hard when they feel bad.
  • CanadianMamaCanadianMama
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    Oh no!!! Please keep us updated!!! 

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  • Monkeynmoo
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    @sammie, they said it could just be a virus... My daughter is starting to cough really bad and has had a fever all morning too so i am thinking the absominal pain is just part of his all over pain!

    I couldnt believe he snapped at him either, "jaxon you have to hold still, I know it hurts but I can't see anything if you curl your legs up" in a very rude tone, died he is three and sick, he is curlin his legs up because he is cold and achy you dick!
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  • CalliopemarieCalliopemarie
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    Hows little man doing?
    i am insane!!! mwahahahaha
  • stinkersmommystinkersmommy
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    Awe poor munchkin :( Hope he feels better soon and I would junk punched that tech!!
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  • BeautifulDefianceBeautifulDefiance
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    What an asshat! He should have gotten him comfortable. Who snaps at a baby who is sick?? They can't help it that they feel the need to move around, he's just miserable! Jackass
    I prefer not to think before speaking. I like being just as surprised as everyone else by what comes out of my mouth.

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  • Monkeynmoo
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    His fever is staying pretty high, tried to bribe him to eat by buying
    McDonald's chicken nuggets (something he gets as a treat after a day of shopping or running errands if good) he took two bites, ate the apples and hadn't touched anything else. He hasn't left his bed since we got home from the hospital and doesn't want to be touched because we are so much colder than him he says it hurts.
  • unforgivenunforgiven
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    Awww :(

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    "What looks like torture is a time to rejoice
    What sounds like thunder is a comforting voice
    When what is beautiful looks broken and crushed
    And I say I don't know you
    But you say it's finished"
  • toadintheholetoadinthehole
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    they shouldnt have released him til his temp reduced and stabilised, did they run any tests?
  • toadintheholetoadinthehole
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    the shivering is his body's way of cooling, he's not cold btw. is he stripped right down to his pants?
  • BeautifulDefianceBeautifulDefiance
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    http://m.netdoctor.co.uk/health_advice/facts/childrenfever.htm

    Shivering is your body's way of generating heat. If he is shivering put a light blanket on him.
    I prefer not to think before speaking. I like being just as surprised as everyone else by what comes out of my mouth.

    SMSM_s_5

  • BeautifulDefianceBeautifulDefiance
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    toadinthehole said:

    they shouldnt have released him til his temp reduced and stabilised, did they run any tests?



    Yes it doesn't make sense that they would release him until they knew for sure it wasn't appendicitis. Especially since it only takes seconds for it to become a serious situation when that happens.
    I prefer not to think before speaking. I like being just as surprised as everyone else by what comes out of my mouth.

    SMSM_s_5

  • Monkeynmoo
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    They only test they did was an ultrasound because of his abdominal pain complaint... He has just a pair of super thin shorts on but that's it. The shivering is a sign that his body thinks it should be warmer than it is by initiating muscle movements to generate heat.... Meaning his hypothalamus, because of the virus, has a "new" core temp that it's trying to reach so it causes the body to feel cold and shiver to reach the new temp. That's why we feel cold when we have fevers until it peaks.

    I called his doc back because his temp is already 103.3 and he started shivering again meaning his temp is going back up and he has been taking meds every three hours rotating Tylenol and Motrin. I don't want his fever back close to 105, that's too high! I am so uncomfortable with a fever of just 102, imagine what he feels with it let alone 105.
  • Monkeynmoo
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    Dreamnofpalmtrees said:

    toadinthehole said:

    they shouldnt have released him til his temp reduced and stabilised, did they run any tests?



    Yes it doesn't make sense that they would release him until they knew for sure it wasn't appendicitis. Especially since it only takes seconds for it to become a serious situation when that happens.


    I thought the same thing! I had to fight them to take his temp again because the "check in" nurse took and recorded it at 100.6.... Finally after requesting a new er nurse I just asked her to touch him and tell me that he felt like 100.6.... She did and then took it rectally at 104.5. I have been watching him closely and randomly lightly press on his tummy, every time when it's he right side he says it hurts but the left side he does nothing.

    Waiting for the doc to call me back, just changed his diaper and it smelled so bad.... His urine is way concentrated. I thought he had pooped but it was jut pee. That is now scaring me too. Ugh, I hate this.
  • unforgivenunforgiven
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    I would take him back and demand they take a closer look at him. Especially if he's still in pain and you think they cut corners in any way. 

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    "What looks like torture is a time to rejoice
    What sounds like thunder is a comforting voice
    When what is beautiful looks broken and crushed
    And I say I don't know you
    But you say it's finished"
  • [Deleted User]
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    I agree with @unforgiven. Take him back none of that sounds good. Go all mama-bear on their asses!
  • Luvlyssa
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    Take  him back... concentrated pee is showing he's dehydrated (because he probably isn't drinking because he feels like crap) that will also make his temp go up, not enough fluids to cool his body down.

    *hugs* @monkeynmoo it may be a virus but his body isn't handling it right. he needs fluids if nothing else. :( poor baby
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  • Monkeynmoo
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    Going back to the hospital, heading to silverton hospital now. It's smaller and the service is much better.
  • CalliopemarieCalliopemarie
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    Good luck!
    i am insane!!! mwahahahaha
  • French_momFrench_mom
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    Good luck. Thinking of you and your boy. Hope they help him get better fast. 
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  • Luvlyssa
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    let us know... I was just sitting here wondering if you'd decided to go
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  • momofdbbmomofdbb
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    I hope he is ok. A friend of my XH lost their child because they took him to the ER with a fever they sent him home , it came back worse, the boy died on the way back to the hospital. 
    " Wibbly wobbly timey wimey ......." The Doctor
    " I'm a leafe on the wind..watch how I soar ." Wash :((
    " Oh the wall had it comming.' Sherlock Holmes
    yea I am geek !!
  • Monkeynmoo
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    It's a virus, all the blood work and the ct scan for his abdomen came back normal! The only thing I hate is they over medicated him and now he feels great so is bouncing off the walls! That fever is gonna come back like a slap in the face, if not worse, than it was before. I am not lolling forward to it.

    Missing a huge $$ day tomorrow at work which I am a tad bit sucked up about but my baby monkey is worth it.

    Right now I am rather pissed at df, for home from the hospital an not even 30 minutes later he was out the door I drink beers Wth buddies. He called in sick child to work tonight because of our son, I have been up since 1 am, took a 4 hour nap an dealt with two kids all day, sure... I guess I deserve to stay home again and continue taking care of the children.

    I told him when he asked and said he would only be gone for an hour " do what you want I guess".....um.... Dude, that's code for "go and you will sleep alone". Pillows already moved to the couch.
  • momofdbbmomofdbb
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    I am so glad to hear that your :(|) Is feeling better at least a bit and you know what it is ! Yea he would be lucky to get a pillow !
    " Wibbly wobbly timey wimey ......." The Doctor
    " I'm a leafe on the wind..watch how I soar ." Wash :((
    " Oh the wall had it comming.' Sherlock Holmes
    yea I am geek !!
  • toadintheholetoadinthehole
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    hows monkey doing mama?
  • CalliopemarieCalliopemarie
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    Glad it wasn't his appendix!
    i am insane!!! mwahahahaha
  • Monkeynmoo
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    His fever has been up and down today but only peaked at 103.7, which is a degree lower than yesterday... So improvement but now my 5 month old is declining. :(
  • momofdbbmomofdbb
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    Now if the baby starts having a high fever I would go to the ER and camp out in the waiting room if they can't get it down and try to send you home.
    I will pray that everyone in your house get better.
    " Wibbly wobbly timey wimey ......." The Doctor
    " I'm a leafe on the wind..watch how I soar ." Wash :((
    " Oh the wall had it comming.' Sherlock Holmes
    yea I am geek !!
  • CalliopemarieCalliopemarie
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    I hope the baby's temp doesn't get that high!!
    i am insane!!! mwahahahaha
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