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DH wants me to go back to work
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I am a SAHM. I have been for 3 years. I used to work as a cna. Dh recently spoke with a friend who told him she knows of a daycare close by that would take both kids for $200 a week. If I go back to work top pay for cna is $9.50. So a week of work, hard back laboring work would get me about $330. most of which will go to daycare and half of the remaining $130 towards gas. I would have to get a job that pays no less than $10 an hour. I also have a felony for cultivation of marijuana for 2004.
So lets say I find a job that pays more than $10 an hour. I fully believe I would be getting the kids ready for daycare by myself in the morning. I would still be cooking the meals and cleaning the house, by my self. And if a child were to get up at night I have to take care of it by myself because he says he needs his sleep for work. I can count on one hand how many times he has helped with a child at night. He goes to bed no later than 10 on a work night and gets up at 7am. I think that is a hell of a lot more sleep than I currently get.
I don't know what to do in this situation. Money is tight but we are making it. He doesn't seem to be hearing how I feel like I will still do all the work at home and work out of the home with very little to show for it. He wants dd in a head start program which based on last years taxes we made $1000 too much.
What do you think I should do?
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I would tell him that I would be happy to go back to work as long as he does his fair share of child care. In fact, I would put that in writing and request his signature to that agreement. I would say this plesantly. If he asks why do I have it writing I would nicely explain that this will be a big change for the family and I think it is important for us to be on the same page.
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Well...I can't tell you what to do...but I completely see where you're coming from here. That's a lot of hard work and a lot of time away from your kids for $130. If you really needed the money, and it was a make or break situation, then I would say go ahead and do it and keep your eyes open for a better position. It sounds like it isn't a dire situation though.Wait, didn't you mention in a previous thread that he keeps all of the money and you have to show him your grocery lists and such in order to get money from him? And he sometimes gets mad at how much you spend on groceries and such? If so, it might be a really good idea for you to have your own income coming in. Even if it isn't that much. It would be YOURS. I think that would be a really good feeling for you!!If you want to avoid daycare, maybe you could do something part time while your DH is home to care for the kids? You're going to have to talk to him. A serious talk. Tell him that if you go back to work that means the cooking, cleaning, miscellaneous chores and errands, childcare, etc. is going to be split up differently. Period. I wouldn't give him the option. You should NOT have to take on a full time position AND be 100% in charge of everything you do now as well. NOT FAIR.Hugs to you, mama. I hope whatever you decide makes you happy!
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I just went thur this I was a manger at a store for years I missed so much I really didnt get to spend time with my little girl and I had been trying for years to have another so once I got pregnant I quit my job and was a stay~at~home mom for almost 2 years it was getting harder and harder to pay the bills so my husband ask me to get a job I cried thinking about not being with my baby and having someone else watching him made me SO sad my daughter is in school, I ended up finding a cleaning job 3 nights a week I go in after I put my kids to sleep so they don't even know I'm gone and my husband can stay with them he never got up with the kids *ever* he used to say the same thing he needed his sleep for work but he made a deal with me that he'd get up those nights I never thought I'd go from having a really good job to cleaning but it's money.. Maybe you could look in to something like that and see if he would be willing to help out more if not I'd tell him to get a second job :-D Good luck!
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@katrina, I would totally take a job like that if we needed the money. It's a win-win. It's money, you don't have to pay for daycare, and you still get to be home with your kids during the day!
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Not only would most your money go to daycare and half the remaining go to gasoline...your actual takehome pay vs how it affects your taxes at year end...I've seen the math..you're spinning your wheels if you're going to work. It will be for naught.
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He doesn't sound very smart if he thinks that's a good deal. Mine would like to see me work again too, but he does realize that most of those jobs would barely cover the cost of working and things would end up really neglected at home.
Maybe your hub needs to experience that too, like
MammaTeeRoll recommended.
Oh wait, he's the guy who spends it all on clubbing and then complains there isn't any. Hmmm. Doubt he'll see the light no matter what you do.
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So last night when Dh got home from drinking.. I talked to him. I said if I get a job it will be no less than $10 an hour. I would expect him to help me get the kids ready in the morning. A first shift for a cna starts their shift at 6:30am.. he didn't want to get up in the morning with me. So he said I could do second shift. I said well that would be okay. I said you will have the kids by yourself from 5pm until 11pm, you will be responsible for making their dinner and bathing them then putting them to bed by yourself. He said I don't' know that sounds like too much work. So in the end he said he would have to think on it. I gave him a list of deal breakers things he is required to help me with or i will not get a job. he may drop it now..
I don't mind getting a job but the child care will kill the pay and he struggles to do the basic things with kids. My cousin suggested that for a week. I pretend like I am going to work and go through the motions of him doing the things he would be required to do when I get a job. So that is an idea.
Thanks for all the advice..sometimes it is so hard to get through to him. He goes out on weekends on his own to drink.. and gets upset about me spending money. we are in marriage counseling for this cause i told him if things didn't change I would divorce him. Not to mention he told me he never asked for kids and that I tricked him into it and that by god if I wanted to get myself pregnant I would. I then told him to get the hell out. That was in September so we are still working on alot of things
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Good grief $200 a week for 2??? That's so high! Is that normal in your area? A lot of places will give you a discount for more than one kid if you ask. They'll negotiate! :D
Personally, if you can go back to work, I think it's a good idea. But that's just me. When I had 2 I still worked, but when the 3rd one came it really did make more sense to stay home because of daycare costs. I hated feeling like I had no say in anything, though. And that my "job" was taking care of everything alone because his job was real. And that I had to do everything for him because that was my "job." I can say the decision to start staying home was the beginning of the end for us.
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@Wendy I have no Idea how much daycare usually costs here. Maybe I should check into it. I wouldn't mind the time away from the kids and the extra money but its the lack of help from dh and the cost of daycare that is holding me back.
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I hope everything works out for you.
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Keep in mind that "trying" a job for a few months isn't going to look great on a resume, and neither is a job that's less than the one you had pre-SAHM.
My husband freaked about $ and I got a job just to shut him up. Part-time, minimum wage retail. I got a pathetic paycheck while working around his schedule--and guess what? During my shifts, he would load our 2 year old in the stroller and walk around the mall with her...pushing her into my store to me to deal with her if she had a fit...spending what little I made killing time in the book store...it was awful.
Even worse, my work history went from medical records/office work to stints like Payless Shoes and Home Depot. I had to go to a staffing agency and prove myself with computer tests before another office would even consider hiring me because I looked like a stepped up cashier. I really feel like I did myself a huge disservice by working those minimum wage jobs--and now that we're 5 years away from it, my husband agrees with me and apologizes for being an ass about money.
All that to say, my only advice is to find a job you're going to stick with for at least a year AND a job that is in line with your skills/pay scale. Don't get desperate and snatch at anything, like I did.
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@ImWendy--$200/week for 2 kids here would be a heck of a deal! I pay close to that for just one and I thought I was getting a good deal bc we're in a small town....I might need to move to where you are!
@GlitterQueen. Good luck to you, it's a shitty spot to be in.
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Dh hasn't brought it up again yet.. I looked online for jobs and there aren't many that would give me the pay I need. I will just have to see how it goes and then I will have to write out a chore list for the both of us. I don't think he is really going to push it though not at this point.
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My god. Here's it's $150 to $200 per week for ONE kid.
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I'm not trying to be rude but it sounds like you just don't want to work. Most women go to work, cook meals, and clean the house, me included. We do it and don't whine about it. On top of doing all of the housework I go to school and work full time I'm sure I'm not the only scarymommy doing this either. What if you were a single mom? My opinion, though I'm sure you don't want it, is that you need to buck up and help the poor man out. Bring in an income and be productive instead of staying home all day.
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@Anon Hardworking are you a single parent? I have no problem working. Its the pay. When my dh left the country for school I raised our daughter by myself and worked full time. My husband helps very little with the kids now as a stay at home mom. And I do want to stay at home, not because I hate work or because I am lazy but because I love to take care of my kids. As I have said before I have no problem getting a job, but he needs to start doing his share. I am in a small city 300,000 ppl there aren't that many jobs here. The only education I have right now is HS and CNA. I can't do math. It is possible for me to go back to school but something people don't' know is that we owe 158k for DH student loans. So I don't see how or why I should add to the loans at this time especially when in my area people with master degrees are taking jobs at grocery stores because that is all they can get. I don't mind your opinion but there is alot of back story here too. So if I go back to school it would be like doing all by myself. My husband would most like not help much. I would go to school and have to pay someone to watch my kids while I am in class, which would cut in to our current income. My 3 yr old dd will be in my paper work and ds will be begging for me to hold him. I could stay up after they go to bed at 11pm. Dh husband won't put them to bed because they scream, and they sleep in basement with me because he can't be bothered to hear them cry. So if I try to put them in their own beds and it gets past 9:30pm I get flack from dh for them being too loud. My dh got us in this financial situation. He knew full well he could not go to medical school with a felony. I told him he should wait, he applied anyway. The school didn't do a background check. So he goes to school. and when he is about to take the USMLE they do a back ground check find the felony and expel him.
My thing is @anon Hardworking if you can help me figure this mess out. how i can' work for min wage and all the money go to daycare. or go back to school and incur more debt while paying someone to watch my kids while I am in class honestly let me know. no sarcasm give me some ideas
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We respect you achievements hardworking one, but what part of "It doesn't pay for ME to go to work & neglect MY children" you do not understand?
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@glitterqueen: NOT being a bitch...but if he has the money to go out drinking...get what I am saying? Yeah, money is tight everywhere. How about going back to school (through grants, scholarships and loans) to get a degree to become a nurse or an adminsitrator? Many schools have day care on campus and offer it pretty cheap compared to a center. Grants can cover daycare, books, tuition, gas...and a lot of times there is money left over for whatever expenses may come up.I understand that it's hard to leave the babies for not much money, but going back to school is an option.
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@anon jennifer I have thought about going back to school. I have thought of nursing. However I have a felony. When I called the board of nursing what they said I needed to do was to go to school and then apply for a license. They may or may not approve a license for me because I have a felony. I have to pay for school and the test with out knowing if I will be approved. Even If i pass the test with flying colors the can still deny me. I can get my felony expunged next year if I have the extra 1k. I am not sure what I would go back to school for. I am horrible at math and I have never been able to do anything but basic stuff. I don't even know all the times tables. I just couldn't do it. I though massage therapy but then I don't know how easy it would be for me to get a job.
I have told DH that once the kids start school I will take a job so I don't have to pay for child care.
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We have a felony for growing pot. I hadn't done it before I met dh. I was a cutter with no insurance to get help. Dh then bf though the weed would help calm me. I found out I am kinda allergic to skunk weed (the cheap stuff) I would not be able to move with out vomiting after one hit. So dh started growing kind bud ( the good stuff) He did a strain called bubble gum. It smelled like bubble gum and it helped me. I could take one hit and calm down. I didn't smoke to get high, and have a good time i did it t help slow my brain down and calm myself. After awhile we would sell to a close friend of his. I needed one ounce to last me about 9 months. Needless to say the cops came and arrested him while I was at work. The cops met me after work wanted me to sign papers and I refused. So I went to jail. Dh never felt so bad in his life. He apologized mom wanted me to leave him. I said no. His parents believed it was all my fault.
We had our drug addiction evaluations done. My came back as a non addict. self medicating. the police ignored it. I went to AA (addictions anonymous) meetings. and did 2 years probation. The court didn't want me to go to prison but they did want dh to go. They gave him probation also. felons are not allowed to interact with each other which would have meant that we couldn't see eachother. I told the judge he was my support helping me with the cutting. The judge made a special rule that he and I could stay together. That was in 2005. I met dh in march 2004. He had just been released from the army for basically not being able to handle it. He has a honorable discharge. When we met in college he was already doing his pre rec classes for med school, this is the first time he has had a job in the 9 years we have been together. Before that he had a rich aunt with no kids that gave him all the money he needed. He bought our house and cars in full with the money from her. After she died he continued to get money from his family. His grandma gives him 1k every Christmas. This past summer when he was trying to hold med school for the felony to be expunged the school found out and explelled him all his dreams were crushed. he was destroyed. Financially and emotionally. In sept I threatened divorce because he wasn't moving on and growing up. Not acting like a partner in marriage and family. We started counciling. Shortly after his dad filed for divorce after 36 years of marriage. his mom and brother immediately put dh in the middle demanding he talk to his father and make him fix the marriage. My husband has been going through hell. We are paying our bills and he most days has a hard time doing what he needs to do as a father. He is getting much better.
sorry long story.. Needless to say before the past 3 years I always worked full time in whatever I could get. I worked as a Cna and in a plastic factory. This is the first job he has had since we have been together. Hopefully that gives some insight to our situation.
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They want $200 a week for JUST my DD8mo. DH works 3-11, does school full time, and has 2 kids other than our DD. I do school full time, mostly online classes unless they're at a time when my mom can watch her ( LOVE that my mom is willing to do that). I work about an hour a day at a before/after school program. Pay is $9.75/hr. I bring in about $200/month. It's enough to pay our gas bill and get some groceries or little extras and gas to get around. We figured it works for now, and putting DD in daycare so I could work full time (IF I could find a job) would me I wouldn't net much more than I do now.
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i've noticed, especially with women, when one doesn't want to do something, there will be a million obsticles and reasons why it can't be done. instead of looking at the negative, why not look at the positive that could come out of working. maybe work a night shift? if you don't want to go back to school, then how about stashing away money to get your record expunged (hubby's drinking money??) until you have enough saved up. it will take a long time....yes, it's hard. and the big decisions in life usually are.
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I think u should wait for a job that's right for and suits ur needs, don't take just anything it won't be worth it. Besides if u take something u hate ur just going to be miserable all the time and that won't help anything.~slim shady~
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You're mean. If it doesnt make financial sense for her to work ($130/wk after daycare) how is that the same as not wanting to work?? It's not. Its like saying she doesnt want to work because crayons are yellow. There is nothing shameful or lazy about a mother wanting to stay home with her kids. If her husband can go drink all the time they arent that bad. It sounds like he wants her to work for his drinking money. Fuck that. Glitter, if you decide to go back to work or school I wish you all the best. I must add that if you pick massage therapy be ready to study nonstop because the national board exam is the hardest thing ive ever experienced.
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Maybe if you'd learn to use your big girl words better, you wouldn't need seek to bring others down into the gutter with you.Be gone, evil one! -
I used to worker as a baker at Panera Bread good money and good benifits. Its 3rd shift. I could apply agian. My schudle would be somthing like work at night and take care of the kids by day. when dh gets off work at 6 I would have to go to bed. Get back up around 8:30 and try to get the kids to bed. But on weekends he couldn't go out which won't go over very well with him. He is good with the kids when it is convenient for him. This is something we are working on. I am currently making a shit load of bows to sell for kids hair. I just don't see working myself to the bone if it benefits no one and I don't have to. It would be very different if I was a single parent. I would be getting child support and in that day care money. i would do what I had to. But this is not that situation. just today on lunch DH came home and was upset cause he says he never has any free time. I gently reminded him he went out with me Friday night. and his friends Saturday and Sunday. That is a hell of a lot more free time than I have. Guess what I am doing when he is out with his friends.
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Do you have attack ppm? she is just trying to help me out. you don't have agree with her but do you have to call her a cunt?
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Yah @psychopsychicmommy get a live! BUAHAHAHA! I think you're awesome. ;-)
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I have been looking the past few days for a job. I haven't found anything that pays what I need or that I am qualified to do. since dh hasn't said he would cook for the kids their dinner and put them to bed at night or get up with them in the morning to take them to daycare I kinda have no where to go from here.
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@love...hahahahahahahahahahaha! Troll spray is a supremely awesome way to deal with that kind of negativity :)
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OMG! @allison You need to chill, seriously.
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Yikes! Stranger-danger!!!!
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@CanadianMamaThis is harmful to the community, and frankly, more than a little deranged and psychotic.
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he says he never has any free time. I gently reminded him he went out with me Friday night. and his friends Saturday and Sunday.
Something about this bothers me. A lot. What is traditionally Saturday night again?
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Alright, miss anonymous, if you continue to post such unnecessary and inflammatory comments, I will be forced to remove them. This behaviour is not conducive to this environment.
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@allison, if you get anywhere near me IRL I will shoot you before you get the goddamned chance. Back under your bridge please! Fine job troll..saying you will "gut" a pregnant mother of three.
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Yikes. There is two anons here and I'm not the other one.
Girl, you're not as anonymous as you think, have a care.
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@ppm You're pregnant?! Well color me last to know! Congratulations!
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@Unforgiven, yes AND she's supposed to be on complete bedrest.Get back in that damned bed and leave those dishes ALONE !!!
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:O
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@notatroll- I'm aware I'm posting anonymously right now. But I'm still identifying myself when I talk. :) I don't like my name showing up on the main page because the trolls hate it.@Love-- yeah right. Who will do them otherwise, DH at work? :)@unforgiven. Yes, yes yes a lil' over 4 months along.
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I had an idea for glitter...but kinda scared to post now....
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Paper plates, girl. Paper plates.Because nothing says "My ass is tired and in pain and you're a dick who won't help" quite like serving dinner onto hefty or chinette plates with Solo cups LOL
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Go ahead @Meghan. Glitter has SAID she'd like to hear any ideas people may have that could help her sort through this.Don't fear the trolls, or you give them the power.
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I meant "allison." She is not as anonymous as she thinks and people have gotten in legal trouble for much less than what she posted just now.
I'm sorry you have to deal with this ppm! Not all anons are this way, really.
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@notatroll-- seriously she'd best consider getting those comments removed if she knows what's best for her. I've already forwarded them to my atty. to see what can be done and I do have the money to find her ass and sue the fuck outta her. My DH is an NRA card carrying, gun collecting, hard right core, George Bush loving republican. He didn't like the comment.












