Caesarian section vs. episiotomies
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So damn tired of women who bitch that they didn't "get to" give birth naturally & had to have a c-section. Try having an episiotomy--that is like a c/s through your vagina! I would take a c/s any day over a episiotomy!
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I had an emergancy c section...baby was 9lbs10oz. I do NOT envy women who had an Eps. No thanks.
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I am actually glad I didn't give birth vaginally. I had a c-section and my recuperation was phenomenal. I was begging my OB to let me drive after a week because I felt so good. I look up to women who do deliver vaginally, but a c-section (IMO) would have to be easier to recover from than an episiotomy.
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I know I recovered fast fr C section...and I didn't have to put frozen peas on my vajayjay...its not like I scheduled the C section. But to be honest if theres baby #2 the doc said I could choose and Ill prob just schedule it.
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Wow really? Did you get to hold your baby after your episiotomy? Because I was bleeding out on the table nearly dead after my c-section and I didn't get to see my baby for almost a day. Sorry I'd take the episiotomy.
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I'd take an episiotomy any day over a CS, Te face tat you actually get to see your baby born and hold them right after. Plus Major abdominal surgery is not something I look forward to.
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I had an episiotomy and I'd do it all over again, rather than have a c-section. Yeah, it wasn't fun, but I still think it's probably a lot better! Besides, let's be honest...by that point you don't even feel them cutting you! I was in so much pain I was oblivious to exactly what was going on!
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I had an episiotomy and I'd do it all over again, rather than have a c-section. Yeah, it wasn't fun, but I still think it's probably a lot better! Besides, let's be honest...by that point you don't even feel them cutting you! I was in so much pain I was oblivious to exactly what was going on!
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you don't get to hold your baby for a while after a c-section. the dad doesn't get to cut the cord. It's different to schedule one but to have one because the doctor just wants to go play golf is wrong. I'm so tired of women, who bitch about people that have c-sections bitching. Try not lifting your toddler who is crying to be picked up for 6 weeks. Try to do anything. Recovery is a lot harder than a vagina delivery. you are confined to a bed for at least 24 hours after one. It took me 10 weeks to recover from mine and I did everything I could to make it easier. Breastfeeding is more difficult after a c-section. You can't exercise after for 6 weeks. Or the risk of dying go up??????
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you don't get to hold your baby for a while after a c-section. the dad doesn't get to cut the cord. It's different to schedule one but to have one because the doctor just wants to go play golf is wrong. I'm so tired of women, who bitch about people that have c-sections bitching. Try not lifting your toddler who is crying to be picked up for 6 weeks. Try to do anything. Recovery is a lot harder than a vagina delivery. you are confined to a bed for at least 24 hours after one. It took me 10 weeks to recover from mine and I did everything I could to make it easier. Breastfeeding is more difficult after a c-section. You can't exercise after for 6 weeks. Or the risk of dying go up??????
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I can not believe this is even being discussed in a 'what would you choose' way...Every woman that gives birth has a different experience. I ha a friend that pushed forever before they had to do and emergency c/s and we heard her scream all the way down the hall. That was not her choice. another friend had a similar experience but they had more time to prep for the c/s and when she had her 2nd child they did a scheduled c/s. Recovery sucked for her both times, but it wasn't her choice to have a c/s in the first place. Her second had to be c/s because many physicians will not do a VBAC anymore. I was in labor for hours (about 23) had a horrible labor and alothough I was begging for a c/s I was able to progress and have a vaginal delivery. They cut me, stitched me up and I had no idea until later. I didn't have to put frozen peas on my vajajay, I had a sitz bath that was awesome. Other than being a little uncomfortable for about a week I never took any medications stronger than tylenol after my delivery.
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I've had an episiotomy and a c-section, both were NOT planned and they were both just as bad as the other. My first pregnancy I had the ep for a 5lb baby (big head, small body!) and I had an emergency c-section with my third pregnancy (twins). With the episiotomy, I was afraid to pee or shit and was hospitalized for bladder infection, kidney infection and impaction. With the c-section, I got pneumonia because of a cold and I couldn't cough up phlem (sp?) because I had no control of my ab muscles. Both sucked majorly!
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Those of you that say that you would rather rather an epi because the recovery is faster than a c/s, you are morons. An epi makes it difficult to walk or sit or move around. You can bleed to death from an epi, as well, as it it cut next to an artery. You have to live with a scar in the most sensitive place and it ruins your self-esteem and sexuality. I began this topic and I did not get a choice in whether or not to have it done, the doctor who did it just came in and did it. He didn't give me any anesthetic, my epidural had worn off hours ago and he didn't give me any anesthetic when he was stitching it either. After he cut me, he used a vacuum to literally jerk the baby out of me, causing more explosive tearing--all without any anesthetic! I didn't get to hold my baby right away either, because they had to take her away and find out if they had caused her any damage from the whole experience.
On top of that, after it's all said and done, my uncle's wife tells me "oh, two screams and I heard the baby crying". You stupid, fucking bitch, those were the sounds of a sadistic piece of shit torturing me.
So, excuse the fuck out me when I say I would have rather have had a c/s. Anyone who would willingly allow an epi. and would rather have it is delusional and brainwashed because at least 90% of the time, they are completely unnecessary; just a way for the doctor to CONTROL your experience and justify his/her profession. I was sexually assaulted--no one will ever convince me otherwise.
There needs to be an organization to find for and protect the rights of women during pregnancy and childbirth--far more women in this country give birth than have abortions, yet the powerful organization NOW will not add this issue to their agenda! -
Sounds like you needed a better doctor no a c/s.
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*not not "no"
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Yeah, I needed a better doctor, but I also wanted a c/s and I feel that it should be every woman's right to have one on demand. Rich women, famous women, and women with good insurance seem to be entitled to c/s on demand, but not poor women on welfare (as I was then).
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You right each woman should be able to choose what's right for her, her body, and her baby. I was forced to have c/s with my second girl just because I had to have a c/s with my first (I had full previa). I should have been able to determine what was right for me and my child but I wasn't given the choice. Something needs to change in our health system.
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*You're - why can't I type?!
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While I agree we should all be able to voice our opinions on this matter, I don't understand why it has to be VS! I had an epi with my first two and the first one was a nightmare. Looking back, the Doc should have performed a C/S because my son nearly died because his cord was wrapped around his neck and in a knot. He came out sunny side up and not breathing. Of course, I was not aware of the danger he was in because of the 24 hours of hard labor I'd been in. And in a way, I'm glad I didn't know. I spiked a fever and didn't get to see him for 9 hours after i delivered. As horrible as all this was, I hold no anger for women who choose an epi over C/S and vice versa. It's different for everyone! My second epi went off without a hitch and I didn't need one with my third. Some think the grass is always greener, but in truth, that's not ALWAYS the case. Stop bashing people for having their own POV!
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Let's debunk a couple myths: I had a csection and my DH cut the cord. Baby was born and immediately handed to my DH. Baby never left my sight. As soon as I was sewn up baby was given to me and never left me the entire time I was in the hospital. I had no problem carrying or holding my baby.I walked up my stairs several times a day during recovery. Recovery was super easy. My vagina never hurt!!!! You ladies should be ashamed acting holier than thou just bc you had your girl bits split. Really?!?!?!? What a ridiculous debate!!!!
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I had 2 c sections and one epi. Both hurt, both suck. No one is more of a warrior for having one or the other done. Good thing with the epi is I joked with the dr to 'sew me up tight'...he laughed, but did. "Like a virgin...hey". Ha!
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I had an epi with my first..it was unnecessary and painful. I couldn't pee or poo for a long time without pain. I had an emergency c-section with my third (well technically fourth, as it was twins and her brother was born naturally). I had a horrible recovery from that, made worse I am sure because I nearly bled out, ended up being in the hospital for 10 days and needed 2 blood transfusions. I would wish neither experience on any woman.
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I was in such denial about a csection i refused to watch the video on it in birthing class, set myself up for an emergency csection wonderfully didnt I? Just because I didnt get stitches in my vaJJ doesnt make me less of a mom and if Im ever blessed with another pregnancy Im thankful another csection is automatically on the menu.
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I had an epi, given the choice of being cut or ripping, I would choose being cut. I experienced a little discomfort for a few days and that is it. I did not feel like my right to choose ha been taken away, and sex after my 6 week ck up was great. 9 yrs later I am still fine.
This has got to be the dumbest debate ever as some woment do not have a choice, just like with breastfeeding. Maybe those of you who feel lime you were forced should have had better communication with your doctor and get over yourselves. -
Agree w last post 100%
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I had 2 csections, and both were medically necessary. Because of women, like these on this board, who belittle women for having a csection I went into my delivery feeling like a failure, before we even started. People should be ashamed of themselves for making anyone feel bad about the births of their babies, no matter the method. My babies are now 8 and 6 and the fact that I had them via csection does not make me any less of a great mother, and anyone who thinks otherwise can take a flying leap.
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WHY is this a debate? I can understand disappointment or anger over how the birth happened but this horrid catty attitude that one suffered more than the other is very pathetic.
Why don't we instead turn that anger on the medical community. The doctors are the ones perpetrating these unwarranted procedures. Many of these episiotomys and c sections are unneeded and far riskier than natural labor and delivery. Put that anger to good use and speak out to the doctors who intervene too often in the United States.
I'm not saying these invasive procedures are bad or shouldn't be used, but they are over used. -
WHY is this a debate? I can understand disappointment or anger over how the birth happened but this horrid catty attitude that one suffered more than the other is very pathetic.
Why don't we instead turn that anger on the medical community. The doctors are the ones perpetrating these unwarranted procedures. Many of these episiotomys and c sections are unneeded and far riskier than natural labor and delivery. Put that anger to good use and speak out to the doctors who intervene too often in the United States.
I'm not saying these invasive procedures are bad or shouldn't be used, but they are over used. -
As someone who HAS been sexually assaulted, I take offense to the fact that you are comparing your unwanted epi to my brutal rape.
And can I also say, wow what a bitch you are as well! Just because an epi is not for you doesn't mean it's NOT for everyone. I had two epis, one where I felt nothing and one where I felt everything and I healed just fine. I recognize that both epis and csecs are mostly unnecessary, but if that's what someone wants that's there decision. You are a bitch for judging these women and calling them whores. Get a life TROLL. -
I say choose whatever you and your medical professional determines is right for you. I have no problem with women making an informed choice. I *do* have a problem with doctors forcing C-sections or episiotomies on women out of convenience or fear of legal action. As long as you are informed and comfortable with your decision, more power to you.
What I don't understand is the C-section versus episiotomy question? It's not necessarily one or the other. I've had three 8-pound babies, all vaginally, with no episiotomies. I had only a tiny tear (2 stitches) with the first, and no tears with the others. Why not try to change position or apply warm compresses to the perineum before slicing into a woman's lady parts? -
Wow. You really are a bitch. Your mom should have chosen abortion. I hate to think what kind of child you are raising. Do the world a favor and go live in a cave.
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Yeah, that's right, I'm a bitch for trying to stick up for my--and millions of other birthing women assaulted annually--rights, but your just a great gal for trying to invalidate my experience. It's almost as if you are worried that someone like me will take away that little badge of honor you wear--"rape survivor"--and you won't seem so special anymore. I was sexually assaulted--untold numbers of women are assaulted in the delivery room every year and people like you should be counting us as your own, not trying to keep us from taking something away from you.
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Oh, also, my child? Honor student, certified genius. Fuck you.
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I think this is the same foaming at the mouth psycho that keeps posting in threads and telling everyone to burn in hell and calling them whores. You need SERIOUS anger management.
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Alas, we see the downside of anonymity - no way to ban the jackasses who are incapable of actually holding a discussion.
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For some reason it's not posting my response. Hopefully later.
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Wow. All I can say is wow. This person seriously needs to seek some medical attention if she is comparing an epi to sexual assult. With her fabulous communication skills that she is showcasing for all of us to see, I am suprised that her dr didn't sew her fucking mouth shut. She is probably also the same person that started the breastfeed/formula crap.
If you have a problem with your doctore or the common practice of childbirth, hopefully you chose not to have any more children. As an adult, I was fully aware of all possibilities when I went in to labor. -
Thank you, thank you, thank you post above. Thank you. Basically my response (that won't post) in a nutshell. Thank you.
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What a nutcase!!!! Sorry but I'm laughing my ripped ass off at her!!!! Go away troll!!!
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Seriously, are you people fucking brain-dead? Are you capable of thinking for yourselves at all? A common medical practice? Many "common" medical practices have been banned over the years because people realized they violated basic human rights. I was well aware of all of the possibilities, unnecessary interventions, etc. and I told the doctor specifically not to do that to me weeks before my child's birth. Well, he did it anyway, without ever discussing it with me and without anesthetic. He sexually assaulted me and he should be in prison.
You are the kind of people that think and say that women deserve to suffer because they got pregnant. -
BTW, the last time I checked, childbirth is not a medical event. Doctors have turned it into one in order to further control women and make millions of dollars off of our suffering and stupid bitches like you with your heads up your asses are too stupid to fight for the right not to be cut.
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I don't think going on an anonymous message board saying that you wish women who complain about c/s is fighting. I think it's bitching for attention. If you want to change something, do it. Be proactive.
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And while I'm at it, you sit here saying horrid things to others, saying they are "brain-washed whores" and "fucktards" because they have a differing opinion and telling others they deserve to be raped for judging you. Have you read anything you've written? You've done nothing but judge. Maybe people would feel more for you if you weren't being so nasty. You get more flies with honey than vinegar, as they say.
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I think they person that started this post needs to seek mental help seriously. Such hate and venom. Very scary. I'm frightened to know that someone with such hate and obvious mental defect is raising a child....Post partum psychosis maybe?
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Exactly. She needs help. A lot of help.
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well, i've had two csections, the first was an emergency, the second scheduled. the emergency, DH didnt get to cut the cord, but i held my baby right away. second, DH DID cut the cord, and i held my baby right away. so whoever said that you cant do that- has a shitty hospital!! i was up walking around the next day, i drove myself around the day i got home from the hospital. not because i didnt have anyone to drive me, or do anything for me, but because i felt great! the more you walk around in the hospital, the easier it is for you when you get home. i walked all the time, and i recovered very quickly. its the people who want to do nothing but sit all the time cause they cant handle the pain to stand up who take forever to recover.
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This has got to be one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read.
If you feel you were 'assaulted' by your doctor, file a police report or get an attorney. We can't help you.
I've had 3 natural vaginal deliveries. The first was without an epi. The last two were WITH an epi, because I would prefer my taint be cut and sewn back together than be ripped apart and still have to be sewn back together. But, that's just MY preference.
If you had read a childbirth book or spoken to any other mothers about an epi beforehand, you would have been in a position to speak to your doctor like an adult before it became an 'assault' issue. I don't know any doctor who would willingly let a patient tear instead of performing an epi, unless she ASKED not to have one. -
I cannot compare the pain or recovery time between the two, my kids were both c-sections. I will however say that I didn't choose to have them, the first was emergency after 23 hours of labor. DH did get to cut the cord and the baby was immediately handed to me. 2nd was scheduled and I did ask to have a v-back but was told they wouldn't perform it due to malpractice insurance. I liked my ob enough that I chose to stay with him rather than find a doc that would do the v-back. That said, I wish I had been able to give birth naturally even if it means I might have had to get an epi. I feel like I missed out on the first week of both of my kids. I was on morphine for the whole first day both times and darvacet the next week and a half. It's all a blur. I foggily remember holding my babies the first time, don't remember half the people who came to visit, and vaguely remember first feedings. So yeah, I feel cheated and wish it had been different. But I have 2 beautiful kids and would have gone through anything to get them so that's that. But I don't really think I'd ever be so passionate about the subject to call another woman a whore for wishing she had a c/s or something different. That's a little psycho.
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With my first, I had an epi. Have a little scar, no biggie. With the rest, I refused an epi. Dr pushed it but my support team was well aware of my wishes and made sure they were followed as long as my health & my baby's health wasn't at risk. Tore a little but not enough to need stitches. With my last one, I begged for a c-sec because he just wouldn't come out & I had been in labor for over 24 hrs & was just in a tremendous amount of pain. Dr refused this time! Baby was not in distress & my vitals were fantastic. Ended up with an epidural instead(something I swore I would never do) & everything was able to relax & baby came right on out. Each experience is different and each mother wants/needs different things. I'm glad my mom & bf were there to stand up for me! I love the fact that each birth story is as different and unique as the children that are born!!
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I had an epi with the first and the healing part was very uncomfortable. I was itchy and told to use Tucks pads, but they just stung! I tore with the second and was fine, way less uncomfortable. Tuck pads worked like a dream.
I would like to have another child in the future and hope I never have to have a C-section. No, thank you. I don't think you can really compare a C-section to an epi though. One is major surgery, another is cutting skin, yes, skin in a very sensitive private area, but skin no less.






