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Ashely Judd's letter to the paparazzi
  • Thefinder
    Posts: 1,633Member
    Pssst @CollegeMom  your discussion is number 9000  woot!

    btw I agree with her, all this paparazzi is CR-azy
  • AnonUser28
    Posts: 2,083Guest
    Oops, missed it! I wasn't on very much yesterday...
  • RedTiger
    Posts: 483Member
    Go Ashley!
    "The meaning of our very existence is created though stories, tales and imagination. They are at the very core of humanity." -Tuomas Holopainen
  • DemandaDemanda
    Posts: 4,470Member
    A good friend of mine does costumes for movies - she had to work with Ashley Judd a few years ago.  Said she was the most full of herself stuck up bitch she's ever met... wasn't allowed to make eye contact with her and everything.  That was totally off topic...sorry, but every time I see her name  I think about that.
    "The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off." ~ Gloria SteinemPhotobucket
  • fatchickonabikefatchickonabike
    Posts: 5,495Member
    So what's her point, exactly? That mean comments are being made about her appearance? Well, that's what happens when you're a celebrity. In fact, it happens when you're not a celebrity, too. Is it okay? Of course not, but it's human nature. And the rest of us can't cry all the way to the bank like Ashley.
    "The most essential gift for a good writer is a built-in, shock-proof bullshit detector.” - Ernest Hemingway
  • AnonUser28
    Posts: 2,083Guest
    Her point is that women should not be engaging in this sort of dialogue, that measures her worth on whether someone's face looks "puffy" or whatever. About the fact that women continue to participate in this patriarchal society that men have created without even realizing it. Women continue to "other" themselves by taking the world on the terms which men present it to us. Sure, we have most of the same privileges as men, and feminism wants women to be treated as if they were men, but why can't we be treated as women, and valued for what we are rather than aspiring to have what a man has? Her point is that women need to realize this, and stop engaging in these types of dialogues all together.
  • fatchickonabikefatchickonabike
    Posts: 5,495Member
    Yeah, good luck with that, Ashley.
    "The most essential gift for a good writer is a built-in, shock-proof bullshit detector.” - Ernest Hemingway
  • LoveLove
    Posts: 12,774Administrator, Moderator
    My husband would not be in love wiff her anymore, if he knew she uses bigger words than I do. ::snicker::

    I'm sorry, I'm quite intelligent, and that was more $5 words than necessary to make the point. Is she speaking to the general population, or giving a speech in Women's Studies?




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  • AnonUser28
    Posts: 2,083Guest
    Why does the general public need to be spoken down to? Nothing in there you should need a dictionary for, why should she dumb it down?
  • LoveLove
    Posts: 12,774Administrator, Moderator
    I've heard Ashley speak. This was inflated. for what reason, I couldn't tell you, but she does not normally speak in this manner. Not to say that she's not a highly intelligent and extremely well-spoken woman--she IS. This just read as vaguely over the top for some reason.
    Regardless, I don't think it's 'dumbing down' or 'speaking down' to realize your target audience, when preparing a statement intended to make an impact. IMHO it sounds faintly pretentious, bordering on grandiloquent, and while I appreciate the message itself, I don't care for the manner in which it was delivered.. 

    That women are joining in the ongoing disassembling of my appearance is salient. Patriarchy is not men. Patriarchy is a system in which both women and men participate. It privileges, inter alia, the interests of boys and men over the bodily integrity, autonomy, and dignity of girls and women. It is subtle, insidious, and never more dangerous than when women passionately deny that they themselves are engaging in it. This abnormal obsession with women’s faces and bodies has become so normal that we (I include myself at times—I absolutely fall for it still) have internalized patriarchy almost seamlessly. We are unable at times to identify ourselves as our own denigrating abusers, or as abusing other girls and women. A case in point is that this conversation was initially promulgated largely by women; a sad and disturbing fact. 


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  • DemandaDemanda
    Posts: 4,470Member
    Oh so that's why she doesn't let people look at her! =))
    "The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off." ~ Gloria SteinemPhotobucket
  • SunnneeSunnnee
    Posts: 10Member
    Its nothing nice being made fun of, but it is also the price for fame. As long as she continues to collect a check from her fame....deal with it.
  • ImWendyImWendy
    Posts: 6,561Member
    I agree with @love that her letter comes off as pretentious, though I'd imagine she felt like she needed to showcase her intelligence as a way to refute this patriarchy. (See? I can use big words, too.) I don't agree that it's anything to do with men being above women. I think it's simple shallowness to put so much emphasis on whether or not a person looks puffy or not at their best. It seems like media nearly salivates at the idea of a celebrity having a hard time. I don't watch the magazine shows, but I saw dozens of ads for then about her. It seems to me that if I teach my kids that it's okay to be unaccepting of a celebrity because of superficial appearances, in turn, I'm teaching them it's okay to be unaccepting of a regular person.
    deus ex machina