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Instead of joining the Marines, you might encourage him to join the Air Force. My husband was in for 8 years, and it is LITERALLY the most family friendly service branch. They have great programs for families.

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I am sorry that your family is dealing with this drama.
Let this be a lesson to all of us who have boys to make sure that they know that girls don't just "get themselves" pregnant. Boys should be wearing protection even if she says she's on the pill. One time without a condom is all it takes to change your life, no matter your gender.
I would strongly recommend that your son get tested for STDs privately before it comes up on his physical for the armed services.
Good luck to all of you.
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i am so sorry your in this shitty situation! my heart and prayers go out to you! I'm surprised you've been able to stay away from the girl's mom! I prolly would have kicked her ass by now lol! i had my dd at 18 and my husband was 19 it was horribly hard but he found a great job and we are doing good now but you know let your son know that its not easy! i think the ladies above have given great advice! follow it!
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@krhodes Just wondering how everything is going? How's your son?
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@MamaTeeRoll - It does matter if he signs the birth certificate *before* the DNA results come back. Signing the birth certificate binds him to the child regardless of what the DNA results are. Yes, DNA results are binding, but if he signs and the results come back negative, he would be legally bound to the child for support. (As far as I know).
In MI this is true. My DH went through this. DNA tests taken when the kid was 3, but he and the mother were young and they didn't know they had to do more than just turn in the DNA results. DH moved around a lot when he was in his 20s, and we didn't find out they were still charging him child support until I was pregnant with DD3. They took the next 2 years of EIC for DD to pay the "back child support", even though the mom admitted in court she knew they were wrongly charging him, and knew he didn't know, made know attempts to correct it, or to let him no so he could. It would have messed up her welfare. (Nothing against anyone who need is. But this was not the only con this chick had going on). -
1 lawyer 2 pay with checks 3 do NOT let him sign the birth certificate without knowing it is his. in some states, you sign and you are the father even if you biologically aren't. i had my kid in NJ and there was warnings all over the birth certificate application about when paternity is in doubt becuase NJ is one of those states.
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Okay here is the update. The GF kicked him out today and told him he can just sign over his rights if he wants to. She called his grandmother, my mother and said my son is drug addict and drunk. I asked my son about it and he said he works 12 hours a day he doesn't have time to be a drug addict or drink. He said the neighbor across the street gave him some liquor on my son's bday and they did some shots. He said he knows he should not have done that but it was just once. So I don't know what is going on but I glad he is out of that house.
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been on my mind as well. I really hope you seek legal advice. and push for paternity testing. and expose all the fraudulent and manipulative and deceptice behaviour and activities going on in that house. but mostly do what is best for your son whatever you feel that might be. glad he got outta there*ad astra per alia porci*
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He was talking about giving up rights and then ten minutes later he said he wanted to get a lawyer and fight. So I told him to just take a few days to sort things out. This just happened yesterday afternoon so I think he needs to adapt to the breakup and the move first. He said, "You know that bad butterfly feeling you get when you break up, I don't even have that. I just don't even care." I think he is glad to be out. I don't think he is a pot head. This all started the night she would have been at prom if she wasn't pregnant. I think she felt bad about sitting at home and took it out on him. I know in high school he smoked pot, and I think if he was doing it now he would tell me. Thank you everyone for your support! I think the next few weeks are going to be hairy but I think it is also about to be over.
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No one can stop him from signing up. If one recruiter says no bc of that crazy lady go to another. I would recommend the Air Force or the Navy. I was AD for 6 years if you have any questions about that feel free to msg me.I am glad he is out of their house and I would highly recommend a dna test and then if it is his sign over his rights and get away from them. I hope all goes well and you are in my thoughts...Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass....It's about learning to dance in the rain.
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One other thing that pisses me off is that the body shop where your son works is paying him "under the table". As a self-employed person myself, believe me, I would love to pay my employees in cash to avoid paying Worker's Comp, FICA, FUTA and State unemployment taxes. This is completely against the law. You should write an anonymous note to your State Dept. of Revenue telling them that this business is paying it's employees as subcontractors to avoid paying taxes. They will be all over it, as they're missing out on revenue. I wonder what that asshole employer would do if your son was ever hurt on the job since he's not covered under Comp?
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I think @Peace has given wonderful advice. I would report it to CPS and contacting the Pastor at their church for intervention is a wonderful idea. I was a fraud investigator for about 20 years and know that most insurance companies have a designated adjuster in their office that handles things like this. I would have your son call them.
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Signing over his rights, or not, is not her decision to make. She can't make him do it, and she can't keep him from doing it, either.But, I'm betting she doesn't want him to, anyway, and just said that out of anger in the moment.Anyway, I'm so glad you brought us an update!!!And I totally agree with him taking some time to think about what he wants to do. Nothing has to be decided right this second, and it's a decision that will impact his future in a BIG way, no matter which way he chooses.
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I feel the need to just make a simple observation here. No one has mentioned the fact that it is illegal to give up parental rights in order to avoid paying child support. Generally, to avoid paying child support, there needs to be another adult that is willing to take the financial responsibility. Also, I am certainly not trying to make you or your son feel badly, I just want you to really understand the consequences up giving up any rights to the child. When this happens, though the parent is able to walk away, there is a child left behind that will one day have a million questions as to why their parent left, why they were left behind, how their life might have been better/different/happier? Please understand, I am just concerned for your son and how he may feel in the aftermath. It's a very strenuous time for you all right now, but in the end, the decisions that are made now will have lifetime effects either way. A visit with an attorney is a very good idea, especially where parental rights are concerned. I wish the best for you all and I too, think that the advice @Peace gave is spot on.
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MyInnerGoddess said:
I feel the need to just make a simple observation here. No one has mentioned the fact that it is illegal to give up parental rights in order to avoid paying child support. Generally, to avoid paying child support, there needs to be another adult that is willing to take the financial responsibility. Also, I am certainly not trying to make you or your son feel badly, I just want you to really understand the consequences up giving up any rights to the child. When this happens, though the parent is able to walk away, there is a child left behind that will one day have a million questions as to why their parent left, why they were left behind, how their life might have been better/different/happier? Please understand, I am just concerned for your son and how he may feel in the aftermath. It's a very strenuous time for you all right now, but in the end, the decisions that are made now will have lifetime effects either way. A visit with an attorney is a very good idea, especially where parental rights are concerned. I wish the best for you all and I too, think that the advice @Peace gave is spot on.
This is a very good point...in IL you can't sign your rights away unless there is someone ready to step in and adopt. The state will not allow you to sign them over to avoid any obligations to the child or the other parent. Not at all saying that would be your son's intention, just giving a heads up that it is likely not even an option.
Praying for you and your son--it's a shitty situation to be in. A visit with a lawyer in your area would be a great idea, so he knows what his options are and what to expect.
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The father of the GF is on disability. I am betting that the GF's parents adopt the baby so they can get another check, but who knows really. They wouldn't allow her to marry my DS because that would mean giving up the SS check. He has discussed getting a lawyer, the thing is they have a lot more money than we do. I just don't know what the best thing to do is. I feel that they saw a boy that had been in a little trouble in the past and didn't have much money so they took advantage of him.
@goldie I'm not too happy about his job, but he has looked for other jobs and this is all he can find right now. There are a few places around here that are hiring but they are known to lay-off twice a year. He got a 1099 and paid his taxes for last year. He has started putting back for this year too. I used to complain a lot about his job but now that seems pretty small with everything else going on.
I just got so upset about this whole thing that I didn't update some of the other crazy things they have done. They just keep acting like he isn't even a part of this. I swear the mother thinks this is her baby.
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@krhodes...Is there a chance she wanted him to sign over his rights before the baby was born b/c it's not truly his? Her whole family sounds shady, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was not the only fish she had on the line....just the most promising one. If the baby is your son's and he thinks he wants to fight for custody or rights to the child, then I think you need to start making some anonymous calls. The church, CPS, the cops for a fraudulent insurance claim. Hell, I'll make some calls for you! Reading your thread from the beginning just pissed me off! *hugs*
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He told me yesterday that he wanted to start getting them in trouble for all that they do. I told him to just sit on it, because he is so emotional right now he shouldn't be making decisions.
I will not be the surprised at all if this baby is not his. Her previous BF also lived with her and there was some drama about him coming around long after she was with my son. I also know that my son has been upset about other boys at school but I always blew it off as a teenager being jealous about everything.
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Ewwwww this is sounding shadier by the minute!! I am willing to bet that this child may not be your son's after all! Even if it is, it sounds like you , being of sound mind, and having gone thru a young pregnancy etc..would help him step up to the plate and do whats right. But I agree with all of the ladies here about investigating the shit out of this situation before he signs anything!! Good luck to you both! I think you have raised a decent young man and he was caught in an unfortunate situation.
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I am so sorry for your situation!! Big hugs! Talk about stressful! Def have everything documented! This family sounds like one big ball of crazy! I kind of feel bad for your son's gf because as far as she knows, this kind of sicko family environment is "normal". Insist on a DNA test!! Your son is young and trusting. Make sure he is fully informed and takes care of his future. I feel bad for that poor, innocent baby that is going to have to deal with this crazy ass family!! Being educated does not make you a good person or parent! There is a lot of white trash with money out there! These people sound like they are batshit crazy!! I hope things get better for you! Stay strong!! :)
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@scholarmom4 and I must have been reading each other's minds. I agree that a DNA test should be insisted upon. You're all in my prayers. Keep us posted.
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@krhodes There was another bf living with her before your son?! SO that was when she was what 14???? Her mom allowed that huh? Wait, that shouldn't surprise me. Not after everything else her mom has allowed and encouraged. One question, not that I think your son should marry this girl, not in the least. But, why would them getting married have any bearing on the gf's dad's disability checks? Or are they getting yet another public assistance check for the gf/unborn child? If the moment is a NICU nurse, how is she qualifying for services at all, aren't most of them based on need and income. God, document the hell out of anything shady that they are involved in. Hope you guys are hanging in there!
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Because the gf dad is on disability there is a check for him and each dependent under 18, getting married would give up the check. Social Security Disability is not based on need. I think it is based on what you paid in while working.
On prom night when the crazy mother paid for a hotel room and bought lingerie for her 15 year old daughter, she also left suggestive post-it notes. My son has them!! As gross as this all is I am so glad he has them.
Yes @pdxmama there was a boy living there when she was 14. The poor girl has no idea how crazy her family is. This should be considered sexual abuse, but it is not.
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@krhodes .....when is this baby supposed to be due? And I agree. It should be considered sexual abuse. She essentially pimped her daughter out. So vile.
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Sorry I can't provide more information, but this thread caught my eyes. I just find it so vile that parents would set their flesh and blood on a perverted course of life like that. And I really do hope your son comes out on top, he's taken responsibility and the initiative for this unborn child, even if their is doubt cast on it being his. And that says alot about the type of person he is, a stand up guy with a level head.
As for the military, I'm active duty, and they have changed the criteria for enlistment/reenlistment constantly over the last four years. Since the services are drawing down, they are being more picky about who they let in. As for the call from the mother, she might have told the recruiter a cleaner manipulative version of what's going on, and with any thing dealing with the armed forces, under age sex is a highly punishable offense. If he's still intersted in going into the military, and has a blemish or two on his record, 15-20 credit hours of college may negate it.
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The baby is due in July.
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Thank you for the advice. I think he is over the Marines. I wish he would reconsider, I think the service is over looked by too many.
He is fully committed to being a part time dad. We even discussed with him how he has to be nice when she starts dating again. He knows his role will be limited but he is going to be there as much as they will let him. He works just down the road from where the gf lives so he plans to go by everyday and offer to sit with the baby while she showers, goes to the store or whatever, and we are hoping for 50/50 custody as well.
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So here is the update. They kept telling him they would work with him on visitation, blah, blah, blah. The baby was born and he was called several hours after. When we arrived at the hospital they acted like we were there to start trouble. They had four cops on the floor and one outside the door. They let my son hold the baby for 10 minutes but would not us what they named the baby and kicked us out after ten minutes. They will now not answer any phone calls. My son is depressed and wants to give up. I email a lawyer. I'm turning the gf's dad in for social security fraud and I just might make copies of the sexually suggestive post it notes and flyer every car in her church parking lot with them. Life is going to suck for a good long time!
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Definitely talk to a lawyer! Might be worth getting CPS involved as well??I love purple; I love cats. Imagine if cats were purple ...
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Thank you @AloneOverseas I was way too nice for way too long. I just might call CPS. My son says their house is filthy, and the gf's dad is a drug addict. My son has pics on his phone of the guy passed out on the kitchen floor after doing synthetic weed.
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@krhodes Please call CPS now! both for your grandchild and for the twins they adopted. If there is feces in the house that is extremely dangerous for the health of a newborn, even a healthy term baby.Also, talk to a lawyer, maybe your son will qualify for legal aid?Good luck and please let us know how your son and you are doing! >:D<
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i was wondering how you were doing....................................i'm nekkid.
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@456Iamamom CPS has been called. Social Security Disability has been called
Just found out the baby was named after a former BF. We are walking away. if they push paternity okay....if not, then I guess they know.

















