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Parental Abuse
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My DS7 was diagnosed with ADHD last year. Now the psych thinks he may be bipolar. Today was the worst of any other day. At the store and he wanted something and of course I said because he was not behaving....and he lost it. So i took him out to the car until his sisters and grandma were done shopping. I was told to fuck off, im a bitch, fat, crybaby, asshole. And while being called these named i was getting kicked, bit, scratched, pinched, hair pulled and my glasses were thrown and broke. It took twenty minutes for him to calm down. I was so embarrassed and sad. People were video taping the whole thing and watching but no one came to help. Finally I yelled at everyone who was standing around and a lady came up who said she worked with kids who had special needs and she hugged me and prayed for me and told me it would get better. She said that I do not deserve to get abused. I broke down. First i am a victim of domestic abuse now parental abuse? i love my son and it breaks my heart everytime he flips out like that, but I can not keep taking and taking and taking this. Has anyone else had to deal with anything like this? Part of me hopes he does have bipolar so maybe theres a med that will help him. I want to runaway sometimes.
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Oh my goodness hun! I'm so so sorry. I would have list my shit on the people video taping. Who does that?! It sounds like you met an angel today and I'm so glad she could offer you some sort of comfort. I too will keep you in my prayers. >:D<
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Hi sweetie :) I know EXACTLY what you are going through. I have had issues with my DS7 forever. I distinctly remember crying in the ped's office when he was 2 yrs old, begging him to help me because something was "wrong" with my baby. It has taken me 5 yrs to finally get someone to listen. He has finally been diagnosed as Early Onset Bipolar...about a month ago. Things got really bad & we are still in the process of stablizing him. But I know all about being abused by my kid.
We have holes in the walls from his rages. He has broken too many things to count. I have had bruises all over me from trying to restrain him. I had a traumatic ulceration & severe gum bruising from a headbutt. I have been embarrassed countless times as he threw himself down on the floor in the grocery store or started throwing things from the shelf because I asked him to hang on a sec. I have been made to look crazy as his teacher, psych & therapist couldn't fathom this sweet, loving child being so...horrible. So I started video taping him so they could see. But no matter what he has done physically, the emotional scars are the worst.
I have heard him say:
I hate you
I want to die
I want to kill/hurt myself
I have never loved you & I don't care about you
I will kill you
Any time you need to talk or want to ask some questions, I am always available. You are on a scary road, my friend. But it does get better. (Oh, and sorry for the really long post!) -
Call the psych office Monday and see if you can have therapy. Often family therapy helps a lot by teaching you new skills on dealing with such severe behaviors. Of course they will also be working with him, too.
There may be other resources, too, such as mentoring that can help take some of the load off you, too.
I'm sorry that you had to deal with that, and the insensitive people around you!
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2 things I forgot:
Ask your therapist or psychiatrist to teach you how to safely restrain him. I use a modified version of the basket hold. It will be safer for you both if you can do that. You do not have to allow him to physically hurt you.
*IF* you do get a dx of Bipolar, I highly recommed that you get the book The Bipolar Child. It is a huge resource in understanding what is going on. And with understanding comes the power to help control it. I got a used copy in great condition for less than $4.50 including shipping from Amazon. -
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@crazybroad They were video taping you!? Are you serious? That is so fucking far from ok! I'm really sorry that you had to go through that today, but for what it's worth I've been in almost the exact same place and there is hope! My ds7 isn't bipolar, but he does have PDD/High Functioning Autism. He was diagnosed right before he turned 5. I knew very early on that something was different about him and suspected autism, but around 3.5 or so the really intense behavioral problems started. He was kicked out of a kindercare center. Well, they decided it wasn't a "good fit" for him. Yeah, HE probably wasn't a good fit for the kids he was terrorizing, lol. From there things got worse, but I was his target. Hitting, kicking, spitting, headbutting, screaming at me, calling me a motherfucker, the list goes on and on. But none of that hurt as much as it did when I would see him turn his aggression inward and hit himself or bang his head on the wall or the floor. Like @chaosmom said, it was all directed at me. When he went to his special ed preschool he was very well behaved. When his sister was born he did try to hurt her a few times, but I quickly put a stop to that by not giving him the opportunity. I too started videotaping him at home sometimes so that people wouldn't think I was crazy. It was a very hard time for me bc I didn't understand why my son hated me so much and I felt so alone and isolated bc I was afraid to take him anywhere for fear of the tantrums and meltdowns he might have. I have on more than one occasion had to leave a full cart in the aisle of a store and carry him like a football under my arm kicking and screaming the whole way. Around this time a therapist explained to me that he didn't hate me, and it was common for kids with behavioral issues to act out with their primary caregivers bc they know that we love them and aren't going to leave them no matter what. Small consolation I know, but it makes sense.
So, to give you a little hope... My ds is now 7, almost done with 1st grade and is like a different kid. He is on medication, and it's done wonders for him. I really struggled with the decision to put him on meds at such a young age! (5.5yo or so) but I'm glad I did. I have tried weaning him a bit thinking maybe he really doesn't need them anymore, but... He does! He still has his moments, but nothing like he was a couple years ago. When something sets him off now I'm able to calm him, whereas before he was totally unreachable. He's a pretty great kid, likes school and being a big brother, tells me he loves me and even has a few friends. It's been a long road and things are far from perfect, but they are so much better! If you want to talk feel free to pm me. Hang in there, I know it feels impossible sometimes but there is hope. -
@mamateeroll, unfortunately, that is pretty common. I had to literally stand on ds7 while I was trying to check out at the grocery store & at the same time, deal with ds4 & ds3. Then I drug all of them & the cart over to the side, finally figured out how to pin ds7 in the cart, while I pushed it AND held ds4's hand (ds3 was in the little seat up front). Not one single person offered me a hand! They just stare at you. Or maybe tell you that your kid just needs a good spanking or firmer discipline. I actually had someone almost call the cops on me as I was sitting in the Walmart parking lot, had ds7 in a basket hold as he was screaming "Let go of me! I hate you! You're hurting me! I want to bash my head into the concrete!" Yeah, good times. People are dicks.
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thank you all for the advice, its comforting to know i'm not the only one. im just tired. im really hoping the psych has some idea or plan on Monday. he used to only flip out at home and i told his teacher about it just in case he did it at school, but i dont think she really believed me......until he did it to her last Thursday. I wanted to be like " I told you so!" lol. I'm fairly good at getting him under control at home fairly quickly, well in 10-15 minutes but this doing it in public thing was crazy. I was so pissed at those people, not really for my sake but thinking that he was some wild animal psychopath. It's really hard to see him so sweet, loving, helpful and funny then boom-freak out. ugh.
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I'm going to be honest, while I would never stand around and stare or God forbid video tape a tantrum, it would never occur to me to offer my help. I would offer it to someone I knew but never to a stranger, not that I wouldn't want to I just wouldn't want to overstep any boundaries. How would you want a stranger to approach you?
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If you can, either you or someone else needs to video him from beginning of tantrum to end. Like, if you know xyz will set him off, start the camera & then ask him to do xyz. His drs need to know what type of rage/tantrum/pissed off state you are dealing with. Be very specific about his actions, things he says, sleep patterns, etc. It will help with getting a proper dx.
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@notperfect, for me, a simple "Is there anything I can do?" would be great! We may say no or we may be a little abrupt but it's only because we are dealing with extraordinary circumstances. I know a lot of the time, I am a combination of scared, frustrated, embarrassed, mentally & physically exhausted and just knowing there is one person out there that isn't looking at me like I'm a failure would make a huge difference in my mental state.
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You know I really appreciated the lady who did come up and ask if she could help. I didn't think i would but I did and I was surprised how quickly I broke down at her concern and blabbed everything. If you don't want to help that's fine but never just sit there and stare and snicker at me or my kids....just keep it moving. That's what really pissed me off. I don't care if you don't want to help or anything but don't you dare judge or stare or whisper, that's just not nice at all. The only funny thing that came out of it was my DF telling Bubba that someone will probably put the video on you tube or Parent Fails....and he just said he hopes it gets a lot of hits, lol. I will video tape him next time because I'm sure there will be another meltdown before Monday. I have also been keeping a journal of when he eats and what, what time he takes his pill ( and if he freaks over taking it because thats a daily battle), how school was, any flips (how long and what happened right before) and what time he goes to bed. Hopefully this will help when I go in.
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he's always been a tantrum thrower but yes it has gotten more intense and aggressive since he has been on medication. He takes Straterra which is a non-stimulant. A side effect of the med is violent outbursts and I have told the docs that he is having these. They thought if they adjusted his dose it would get better but it just got worse. I told them they are going to switch him to something else or I will be going elsewhere. They were concerned about bi-polar because there is a lot of bi-polar and schizophrenia on his dad's side of the family.
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He might need to come off of it altogether. Bipolar has many of the same ADHD symptoms, just tends to be a little more extreme with the distractability, lack of focus & hyperness. Just use caution because if he is bipolar, a lot of meds (esp antidepressants & adhd meds) can cause them to cycle & much more intensely then normal if not kept in check by a mood stablizer. I learned that the hard way.
But seriously, any time you need to talk or just vent or need to hear that you aren't alone, I am willing to chat. Any explosive tantrum, regardless of the cause, is a scary thing to handle by yourself. -
Thank you I really do appreciate that. None of my friends have problems like this and they dont really know what to say.
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just an update....went to psych today and he thinks he has bipolar disorder due to his sever mood swings etc. so we are starting 1mg of abilify tomorrow.
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Glad that you are working towards a solution! It has helped me feel more in control knowing that we are trying to do something about it. Don't give up even though it may get more frustrating before you & your son get some relief.
Just a quick side note: my dr told me that some people do great on Abilify at the low doses while others need to jump up to 5 mg fairly quickly. If the dose is low & he needs it to be higher, it *could* make him more anxious/pissed off. -
@crazybroad, how are things going sweetie?
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I love when people offer help or tell me I'm doing a good job. Sometimes I accept, sometimes I don't but it's always nice for someone to offer.
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well he's been on 1 mg of abilify for about 4 days now and i can already notice a change. he had one meltdown a couple days ago but it was shorter and less severe. i notice when he gets frustrated now he doesnt completely lose it like he did before. we start cognitive behavior therapy in a couple weeks which i think will help alot. he's also started eating and sleeping better. i know there is still a looooooong road ahead of us, but im glad we know whats going on and what we need to do for him. my friends mom is a psych nurse and said anytime i have questions or i need help she will be happy to do so which is awesome! i guess we will just take things day by day and do the best we can : )
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@crazybroad I am so sorry that you are going through this.
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Glad things are moving in the right direction!
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You might want to ask his dr to have him tested for food allergies. I had a nephew that they felt was bi-polar and would do fine on meds for awhile then regress. After a lot of back and forth it was discovered that he had a severe food allergy to wheat gluten. Once it was eliminated from his diet, the kid did a 360. Hugs for having to deal with a child with a hidden disability, it is very heart breaking for those of us that have these special kids.
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Thank you and I will def look into that!
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@crazybroad The lady who was kind and hugged you gets a Person of the Year award from me. :)
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Hugs so sorry you are going though this, I been there and had it all done to me too. My ex abused me and so did my little son. It's not easy, my heart breaks for you. I left my ex finally about 10 years ago sadly after I left him. I placed my son in a placed that promised him help. Well he had the kinda schedule he needed, and my ex STOLE all his medical records and they inturn had an doctor that believed only the father should raise the children.. he was a foreigner, and said there was nothing wrong with my son and I had Munchins by Proxy.My ex never once tried getting our son help or going to his sessions which in the end did more harm to me. So to make the long story short I lost custody of my children cause I failed one of my court pschy test's from trying to prove I was abused all the years I was and also had no Dr records since my ex stole them all.So please if you decide to leave for domestic abuse... make sure you have a paper trail and have someone else hold it for you. Cause I didn't I have that and was afraid to call police. In the end my daughter did stand up at the courts saying I was abused also he abused our son. They turned around told him he better never ever place an hand on our child again and was given custody of our children... yes i said it right. I really did loose my mind that year. But loosing my children, kicked me in the side and I straighten my life out and found a loving guy I been married too now for 9 years and honestly the best thing ever occur to me was taking my son as I was abused my both my EX and my son but taking my daughter was the worse thing ever I eventually got her back many years later...It gets better but sometimes getting some else to raise your child is better then being abused...my son is now 17 and graduating on Monday, we spend time together. He lives with his Aunt for years now,she has no children and spoils him. But honestly he can't handle being around his sibblings, at times he loses it still. I quickly have to take him him home. becaue he beats up his adopted brother and goes off on the little ones. My heart aches for you, your child needs serious help please be very careful what ever you do, cause it can come back to bite ya in the ass like it did me. I now have a loving husband, an adopted son from hubby's first marriage, an 4 & 7 year old, and of course my 2 oldest kids. Life can get better but takes time. I'm truely sorry no one helped you, I've had that happen before and its the worse when people just stare and don't help..Also all these years it wasn't me that was the problem either, my son continues to see a Pschy, takes meds, was in Emotionally Disturb programs in school though out elementary and middle school, and got help in High School too. It was easier for them to blame me and hurt me and my children so my EX could get back at me. To this day my ex and his mom is BP too tho my EX never has gotten help for his self. Please be careful what ever you do , it all hurt so bad for me and went against me but in the end I am happy tho I was blamed and told it was all me not my child having BP, then I always wondered why was he on medications, why did he harm me and others he continues to hurt sibblings. will never have a answer tho I know the answer.












