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I don't know if I did the right thing...(kind of long)
  • GritsGrits
    Posts: 3,745Member
    Okay, for the first part of this story,  you can read this.

    Things with my sister have gotten worse. Now her idiot husband is in jail on a $5000 bond for DUI and Felony Assault on a police officer. Her ex (and oldest DS dad) has officially filed a petition for custody. Since he lives 3 hours from her, that pretty much means that if he wins, and at this point I believe he will, then she'll see very little of G. I tried talking to her about the situation last night. She insists on sticking by him thru this mess, and even though I've dealt plenty with the court system here, she doesn't believe me when I tell her how bad this is going to be. So after I got off the phone, I sent her this message on FB since my thoughts are much more clearly expressed in writing...emotions and all, ya know? So if you take the time to read this, thank you in advance, and I would appreciate any input. I'm really not sure I did the right thing, and I'm totally afraid she's going to hate me for it.

    Okay, so I'm going to lay it all out for you. As your sister and someone
    who REALLY cares about what happens to you and the boys, I hope you
    take it and do the right thing. If what I say makes you angry or upset, I
    apologize, but you need to hear this.

    "First of all, I
    appreciate wanting to stick by your husband when things are bad. I hope
    you realize that I, of all people, have been there. I don't want you to
    believe that the situations are comparable, though. When D was facing
    his felony charges, 1. He was 19. We had no kids, weren't married, and
    had no responsibilities and 2. He wasn't abusing both prescription and
    illegal drugs. Roy has repeatedly shown total disregard for you and the
    boys by acting like a fool. The fact that he is facing felony assault
    charges says to me that, regardless of what you were told, he DID
    assault the arresting officer. It's probably a good bet that there will
    be video taped evidence of the altercation between he and the officer(s)
    and the charge will stick. No lawyer can get him out of it unless he
    has paid many thousands of dollars to the lawyer and others in the court
    system. You may not believe it, but it is FACT. I have seen it for
    myself. When D was going through his trial, there were 4 others
    involved. One died before he could be tried, one was a Marine so the
    Marine Corps handled his sentencing, one was David A (rich) and one
    testified against everyone else. David A received a pre-trial
    diversion and a large fine. The one who was state's evidence also got a
    pre-trial diversion. D had a cheap lawyer and got 5 years probation with
    10 years in prison on the shelf. He paid a $3000 fine and had to pay
    out hundreds in supervision fees, fines, and court costs. See how that
    works?? Money talks. The judge is going to throw the book at him in
    court, and Roy apparently has no control over his mouth or his actions
    while he's using. And he is, you know it and I know it.

    Second, you need to think
    about how your decision to stick with him while he's in court for the
    next year (and please believe that it could take that long if he won't
    take an immediate plea agreement) is going to affect you and YOUR boys.
    John will win custody of Gabe if you insist on staying in this
    situation. I hate to say it, but with the shape your life will be in
    (and it will suck the life out of you) while you deal with Roy's mess, I
    kind of believe that John's situation might be better for Gabe than
    yours. Think about it from the point of view you had a couple of years
    ago. If you had known that you and the boys would be suffering like this
    because of Roy's actions, you wouldn't have married him. Can you
    honestly say that Roy is a good person to have around either Gabe or
    Brody right now?? If you can, you're in denial.

    Let me tell you what you can expect:

    For the next 5-10 years, you will be paying money for Roy's misdeeds. I
    mentioned the costs associated with his charges and conviction, but the
    lawyer fees will also be huge. He's going to have to have a job and
    report for probation. Without a license, who do you think is going to
    have to take him? You can't afford to miss that much work, so you can
    already count on the arguments that will come up over that. Besides
    that, he's going to have a recent felony assault charge on his criminal
    record plus a fresh slew of other charges. Who do you think is going to
    hire him with charges like that? D still can't get a decent job after
    his conviction 11 years ago. Hell, he's been fired over them in the last
    two years. And his charges weren't violent. Employers are going to see
    Assault on a Police Officer and throw his application in the trash.If he'll assault a cop, he obviously has a problem with authority. So
    you and the boys will be living on your income alone. You'll be denied
    housing while you live with him because he's been convicted of a violent
    crime and multiple felonies. If John does get custody, you could wind
    up having to pay child support. The good here does NOT outweigh the
    bad. It really doesn't.

    I get that you love him, or at least
    the person you believed he is/was. But pills are a pretty serious
    addiction. He's going to have to hit rock bottom before he changes his
    ways. You can not change him. You need to take care of you and the boys
    and not worry about him. He is 30 years old. That is more than old
    enough to understand that actions have consequences. He should be
    worried about you and your family, and it really seems that he is far
    more worried about himself. I've seen pill addicts in action. I lived in
    the projects, remember? Mom said he slept for 2 days. Did he have his
    methadone? It's hard to get out of bed when you're hooked and can't get a
    fix. If he really wasn't an addict, he'd be apologetic for his behavior
    instead of defending it.

    I really care about what happens to
    you and you're boys. I love you. You are my sister and you always will
    be. If you decide to stay with him, I won't like it, but I'll always be
    there for you. I don't think you're being honest with your family or
    yourself right now. I believe that your desire to support your husband
    comes from a good place, it's just too hard for you to see your
    situation clearly right now. If everything else was going well, I'd say
    that it was the right thing to do. But your decision to stay with him
    while you fight for custody of Gabe will be one you regret. I don't say it because I don't like Roy. I say it because I do love you
    and my nephews. It breaks my heart to think that you could lose custody
    of either one. I'll leave you alone now. I just want you to know that I
    will never judge you. If you want someone you can tell everything to, I
    will be that person. I know that we were raised to put our best face
    forward to the world, but that's bullshit. Sometimes you need to put it
    all out there. I have been there and done too much. I will listen
    without offering advice if that's what you need. But I really want you
    to have someone you can lean on and be totally honest with, and I am
    willing to be this person. Please don't hate me. Please. I just felt
    like I had to tell you all of this because no one else will. I love you
    little sis! Please call me and unload. You'd be amazed at how good it
    feels to be totally honest about things you don't feel like you can talk
    about for fear of judgment!

    Again, if you made it this far, thank you. I am just at a loss. This is not the type of decision she would have made a couple of years ago. I am so worried for her boys right now.
    "I believe in being strong when everything seems to be going wrong. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I believe in miracles." ~Audrey Hepburn
  • fatchickonabikefatchickonabike
    Posts: 5,495Member
    Wow. What a horrible situation. But you're a great sister, and I love everything you wrote to your sis. It was a reality check, firm but kind, and I truly hope she wakes up and sees the light very, very soon, before she loses everything. Hugs!
    "The most essential gift for a good writer is a built-in, shock-proof bullshit detector.” - Ernest Hemingway
  • chaosmomchaosmom
    Posts: 3,846Member
    Sometimes, the hard truth is what we need to hear. She may not like it. She may not believe it right now. But I think that you really had to lay it all out there in hopes that she will come to her senses.

    Hugs. I know this has got to be very difficult for you to watch.
  • GritsGrits
    Posts: 3,745Member
    @fatchickonabike, thanks. My family is famous for being completely non-confrontational, so neither of my parents have said boo about it. I couldn't keep my mouth shut any longer.

    @chaosmom, it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. The disasterous aftermath is inevitable, but you can't stop a speeding train. Ugh, I cried for those boys half the night.
    "I believe in being strong when everything seems to be going wrong. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I believe in miracles." ~Audrey Hepburn
  • AnonUser25
    Posts: 547Guest
    I'm really sorry you're having to go through this and even more sorry for your sister. I just read your past post and this one and it's very evident you care very much for your sister and nephews. Your message to her was very caring and I can tell it came from the heart. I really hope she sees you only have her best interest in mind. Sometimes the harsh truth is what a person needs to realize what's going on isn't right for them and since it is coming from her sister who she loves and trusts then I only hope she takes your advice. Good luck >:D<
  • MyInnerGoddessMyInnerGoddess
    Posts: 1,558Member
    Grits...this was so hard to read and I can only imagine the weight of having to carry it, both on your shoulders, knowing that you can only offer advice, and on hers, being in the middle of it and not being able to appreciate the severity of it all.  It's heartbreaking.  But I completely agree with fatchickonabike and chaosmom.  This was the perfect message to send her.  It was concise, accurate, compassionate and honest.  You did the right thing sending this to her and regardless of her reaction to it, it was the truth.  I sincerely hope she is able to accept and acknowledge the facts and make the decision to protect her boys and keep her family together.  It's going to be one of the hardest things she will ever do, but it is the right thing.  I went to my son's graduation over the weekend, and though I was so happy to see him, I have not stopped crying since I found out all the things his step monster has put him through and how she treats him.  I have never ever doubted that I would choose my kids over my husband, but then, I would never be with anyone that would mistreat my kids or put me in a situation that could threaten my family.  My ex has done just that and still refuses to admit that he has made him choice...and it was NOT his son.  I will keep all of you in my prayers.  This is a nightmare situation and it will certainly be a long process.  (((hugs)))
    "People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and if they can't find them, make them."
    ~ George Bernard Shaw~
  • GritsGrits
    Posts: 3,745Member
    @madme that's definitely a possible outcome. I'm sure she feels pretty strongly that she's doing what's best for her and the boys right now, but I couldn't live with myself knowing what I know and not sharing it with her if there was even a miniscule chance that it might change something.
    "I believe in being strong when everything seems to be going wrong. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I believe in miracles." ~Audrey Hepburn
  • OnmylastnerveOnmylastnerve
    Posts: 1,648Member
    I think you were honest and supportive, sorry your family is going through this
    not my chair, not my problem
  • GritsGrits
    Posts: 3,745Member
    @MyInnerGoddess, I think what's got her stuck is the load of shit he heaped on her to get her to marry him. I can look at the situation and see it for what it is. He got in trouble in OH, moved to KY, and needed a meal ticket. He's a dick, plain and simple. Then, it's always easier to see a situation for what it is when you're not in it.
    "I believe in being strong when everything seems to be going wrong. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I believe in miracles." ~Audrey Hepburn
  • MyInnerGoddessMyInnerGoddess
    Posts: 1,558Member
    I completely agree...my ex married a bitch from Turkey that needed a visa.  He though she had money and was all in.  He was wrong and she is a control freak from hell that is gonna take him for everything he has.  I don't feel badly for him, but I will cut that bitch for the way she treats MY son.
    "People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and if they can't find them, make them."
    ~ George Bernard Shaw~
  • wonderwomanx3
    Posts: 467Member
    I agree with everyone else. You were firm, told her what she needed to hear, but you were still supportive. Yes he needs to hit rock bottom but unfortunately she does too. I understand being in love with someone wanting to support them etc but there comes a point when you've got to move on & start taking care of yourself. And in this case her kids. I hate to see this happen to her.
  • BassmomBassmom
    Posts: 244Member
    I think you are doing right by  your sis by being completely honest with her.  You know that she may not see it that way, because she is blinded and not able to see things with an outside perspective like you can.  She may not come around right away (or at all), but at least you tried.  Dealing with addiction is very hard, I know.  She probably makes excuses for him despite the issues you wrote her about.  I truly hope for everyone involved that she wakes up and puts her kids first.  I am sorry you have to see her and the kids go through this heartache. =((
  • shadylaneshadylane
    Posts: 3,037Member
    I don't know the previous history but I'm sure there is a lot more, but just b/c her husband got in trouble doesn't mean she will lose custody of her son. But I'm sure there are a lot more reasons involved than just getting arrested. Still though just b/c ur husband is having problems doesn't mean u will lose custody of ur kid.
    ~slim shady~
  • GritsGrits
    Posts: 3,745Member
    @shadylane, I know. It's the drug use, the felony assault, the domestic violence, and the fact that they are basically living in one bedroom in a tiny trailer with 3 other people besides the four of them in combination that are going to cause her to lose this battle. I wish it weren't true, but her oldest (the one she's being sued for custody of) has already told his dad he doesn't want to go home when his stepdad is there. That doesn't look good for her.
    "I believe in being strong when everything seems to be going wrong. I believe that happy girls are the prettiest girls. I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I believe in miracles." ~Audrey Hepburn
  • shadylaneshadylane
    Posts: 3,037Member
    Oh yeah not good. Especially if he's old enough to say where he wants to live, I think its age 11? Even if not if he tells the judge he doesn't want to live there with his stepdad it will def influence his decision. That would be hard to have to choose ur son over ur husband but what choice do u have, if u really want ur son to stay with u.
    ~slim shady~