Jill Smokler, AKA Scary Mommy
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Every once in a while, I peek at the sites that are directing traffic to mine. Somehow, it seems, I recently landed myself on the radar of some “I hate children” sites of which, it turns out, there are many. I found countless of my posts dissected on various boards, blogs and community sites, and… wow. First of all, did you know that the children-hating people of the world refer to us moms as “moos?”
(according to Urban Dictionary) Moo: A female breeder. Short for Mommy. So-called because such women drop offspring like cows do, seeming to have little other purpose in life, and sometimes conspicuously breastfeed them in public. They often also bovinely ignore them…unless you attempt to discourage their crotchfruit from screaming or otherwise misbehaving in public, in which case they will begin lowing like an angry cow whose calf has been threatened.
You learn something new every day, right? Anyway, I found the whole thing pretty amusing and thought I would share their take on a post I originally published, Motherhood Merit Badges, along with “KidlessKim’s” commentary.
Motherhood is a series of unfortunate events that bonds women together in the most thankless and revolting job on earth. I ABSOLUTELY agree, so why do it?
Ok, so it’s more than that, but the unfortunate events are definitely a big part of the experience. Whoever a mother is — whether she’s Angelina Jolie or the teen mom at the grocery store checkout — I feel an instant bond with her, knowing we’ve both dealt with a puking kid in our bed or feverish baby at the most inopportune time. That’s just pathetic someone would “bond” over any such bullshit as that.
I was in Girl Scouts for a brief time, and I acquired a snazzy collection of merit badges to brag about my accomplishments like practicing athleticism with purpose and volunteering for a good cause. I’m thinking of finding that sash and slapping on some badges that I’m really proud of: The badges of motherhood. THIS is by far the worst of it. “Proud”, I see NOTHING to boast about in “earning” these ridiculous badges because there’s no “merit” to any of it.
The Fisherman Badge
Fished poop out of bathtub without gagging. God, HOW REVOLTING
The Filth Badge
Went more than three days without a shower and didn’t even care. There’s NO EXCUSE for this slovenly personal hygiene, none at all.
The Volunteer Badge
Survived an afternoon with snotty obnoxious children not belonging to me. NOW you know how childfree people feel ALL the time when we are assaulted by YOUR fucking brats’ wailing and other annoying kid behavior at restaurants, movies, libraries, etc…
The Urination Badge
Got peed on and didn’t even flinch(or change clothes) Now THAT’S just nasty as hell! When I had a small little sick kitten pee on ME, I went inside right away, stripped and dumped the peed on shirt in the washer, and jumped in the shower.
The Resourceful Badge
Caught vomit with bare hands. These women are SO disgusting.
The group then went on to share some badge ideas of their own. Since I hadn’t thought of any of theirs, I thought I’d pass them on to you!
The Fistula Badge
Surviving a hole the size of a golf ball between your rectum and cooter wall while having urine and fecal juice run down your leg, and walnut sized turds slide out your pussy hole all day while simultaneously baking cupcakes for a bunch of first graders!
The Purple Stretch Mark Badge
For surviving the horror of waking up to a purple striped and sagging belly after childbirth that will NEVER go away while dealing with the fact you will always be able to pierce your own belly button, at eye level, because you can now stretch your entire gut straight up to your neck, much like salt water taffy.
The Blue Veined Udder Badge
Having blue veins pop up on your udders due to extended tit feeding and nipples as elongated as a flaccid penis, but not EVEN giving a damn!
The Bitching Badge: Managing to turn everyone off of your presence because you bitch too much about your child.
The Wide Vagina Badge
The My-Loaf-Is-Really-Ugly-But-I-Kept-It-Anyway Badge
Taking A Dump Out Of Your Cooter Badge
Isn’t internet collaboration a beautiful thing?
Thanks, KidlessKim, for helping with my writer’s block and inspiring a new badge for me to wear with pride!
And, P.S. KidlessKim’s, We know something you don’t: Motherhood, revolting as it may be, is the best thing in the world.
So there.
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Can I just be the first to say that Kidless Kim can bite my leaky asshole/boobs/vagina?
I second that!
Kristin Shaw recently posted..Stand Up
I third that!
Motion carried.
Rebeccah recently posted..Life Lessons From "The Princess Bride"
HA ha yep you said it.
Natalie recently posted..101 Halloween Costumes Your Kiddies Will Love
she would be pleased to see my vagina probably looks more like balls after 2 kids!
Kelly recently posted..What It Was Like Unplugging for a Day
Yup, you can be the first. I’m gonna be the 22,459th.
Jackee recently posted..the break-up song
Holy shitballs! I’m so glad Kidless Kim isn’t contributing to the gene pool.
The Mommy recently posted..Wordfilled Wednesday: Pretty Boy w/LINKY
I would like to second that!
Jen recently posted..Adventures in Going Potty
Third! My thoughts exactly! People like her shouldn’t have kids.
BTW if she hates kids so much why is she reading Mommy blogs?
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Kristin,
Best point yet!
fourth!!
I went to the source out of curiousity about the whole situation and it was actually brought into their group by another member that seems to be a guy from his comment about being a former boy scout. Unfortunately this only begs the question why read scarymommy even louder than the thought of kk reading it
The best answer followed by the one below. We thank that she does not pass her genes on and why is she reading mommy blogs? By the way, if she hates the presence of kids, she might hate her past, since she was not born an adult. Her mother might have been one of the worst to make her child hate the thought of being a mother or may be she just cannot have one.
…correcting: or maybe she just cannot be one.
arlete recently posted..Homenzinho da ponte
I fifth this (is that a thing?) Kidless Kim should stay as far away from kids as possible… also, really, why is she reading mom blogs??
BonnyBard recently posted..The bad guy
So true, thank goodness she isn’t contributing to the rising stupidity that is already trying to take over the internet.
Jessica recently posted..Homeschooling a preschooler
Should not have read some of that over breakfast.
I am perfectly happy there is no one like that in my life. What do their parents think of their opinions? Obviously they were never kids.
Megan recently posted..Playground is coming along
Oh I feel sick that this exist. But thank you Jill for finding the funny. Love you. xoxo
tracy@sellabitmum recently posted..This Again
Love how you took this and can mock it.
What I find hilarious is that if any of these haters would end up with children, they’d realize just how stupid they sound and become regular Scary Mommy readers.
Shell recently posted..Pour Your Heart Out: Be Wrong
I agree Shell.
Carolyn recently posted..Remembering Where You Were
So true!
Elaine recently posted..Toddler Times
You are SO right!
Wow. I had no idea that there were this many people around with THIS much time on their hands. Actively hating others like this is such a waste of time and energy. What small, sad lives these people lead.
Maybe they should try having a kid or two of their own….y’know, ‘cuz kids definitely help *me* keep shit in perspective.
Ah, but you know what they say. Haters gonna hate.
Momma Sunshine recently posted..He’s here…
I don’t even understand some of what she’s talking about. I pray a baby pukes on her, immediately followed with being peed on. Hahaha!
i used to wish that the haters accidently got preggers … now i dont – that would be cruel (to the babe) … i am on your side – hope they get puked on! heeheehee!!
Why? You think abortion is funny?
Hahahah! Dump out of your cooter badge?! Hahahaha!
Wow. I guess Kidless Kim should be glad *HER* “moo” chose to “breed,” huh? Otherwise, she wouldn’t be here to bitch about us. So kudos, Kidless Kim to pointing out the stupidity of those who have nothing better to do than bash moms. Good. For. You.
My thoughts exactly. I was curious as to Kidless Kim’s thoughts on her own “moo”. She was, in fact, a little person once upon a time. Of course, she was most likely one of those little hellions she loves to bash.
Amazing post! I was not aware childless people called us Moos… Can we go around calling them Heffers??? I think we should start. =)
I already do!
Their moms must be so proud.
hear, hear!
BonnyBard recently posted..The bad guy
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This almost made me choke. Loooove it
Wow. While I feel I’ve earned many of YOUR merit badges, Jill, I can honestly say I haven’t “earned” a single one of Kidless Kim’s. Stretch marks? Never got ‘em. Boobs? Still look the same as they did before (OK, maybe they’re a *little* smaller). Wide vagina? No, I had an emergency c-section, thankyouverymuch. And I don’t even know what to make of that fistula badge – that sounds more like something they may have seen in a scat fetish film than any aspect of motherhood I’ve ever heard of.
I completely understand and respect a woman’s decision not to have kids. To each their own. But these women?
They have issues.
Kristin @ What She Said recently posted..On Girlfriends and Play Dates
No stretch marks and your boobs look the same? It’s really hard not to hate you. :)
You know, as soon as I hit “Submit” for this comment, I cringed, realizing that it totally sounded like the dreaded “humble brag.” Which is not how I meant it AT ALL. I was only trying to make the point that these women – being childless themselves – have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about and have bought into so many ridiculous stereotypes about what pregnancy and childbirth does to a woman’s body. And like others have pointed out, their figures aren’t going to stay perky forever, kids or not kids. Eventually, gravity’s going to get us all. At 37, me and my smaller boobs and stretch mark-free stomach are beginning to witness this firsthand. ;)
I’d also have to agree with those who’ve said it’s a blessing these creatures have decided not to contribute to the gene pool.
Kristin @ What She Said recently posted..On Girlfriends and Play Dates
I was about the say the same thing. LOL
I kinda want Kidless Kim to get knocked up.
Go you, Jill, for turning this into a win for you! Because it is.
Alison recently posted..Unexpected
She would just get an abortion.
Wow.
Why do people who hate kids take the time to read mommy blogs? Are these people who can’t have kids and are just jealous? Are they people who had to raise their brothers and sisters as children?
Something is very wrong with a person who can hate children that much.
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Well done on taking hate to a funny place. A well-deserved merit badge.
I often wonder how the people who hate kids so much forget that they too were kids and some “Moo” choose to raise and love them.
Lyz recently posted..8 Inappropriate Halloween Costumes for Your Toddler Girl
That’s what I was thinking, Lyz!!
Elaine recently posted..Toddler Times
Why would someone spew so much negativity? Nothing better to do, maybe? The time it took for that woman to write such nasty comments could have been spent making some kind of positive change in the world. Keep up the good work, Scary Mommy :)
I think we also need some sort of merit badge for us non-wide vagina moms who had to have the c-section instead.
Way to re-purpose their shitty content into something awesome.
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Have these nimrods forgotten they were children once? Or did they spring forth from their parents, like Athena from Zeus’s head, fully formed and fucking perfect?
And in their hatred for kids, mothers and fathers do they realize they’re hating their own parents? Or maybe they were immaculate conceptions of devil spawn…
<3 this. Best Comment. EVER.
Is it wrong of me to love your comment JUST because of the irony of someone named MarySunshine using the F word? Makes me giggle.
The Mommy recently posted..Wordfilled Wednesday: Pretty Boy w/LINKY
Not wrong at all!
And really, we can rest easy knowing that since these fartknockers hate kids so much they’ll procreate and bless us with equally miserable offspring!
Their parents must be so proud of them.
Not wrong at all!
And really, we can rest easy knowing that since these fartknockers hate kids so much they’ll never procreate and bless us with equally miserable offspring!
Their parents must be so proud of them.
Idiots. You don’t have to love kids to have been one, and you don’t have to hate your parents to think parenthood is not for you. It’s dumb shit like this that makes intelligent people discount everything you say.
Wow…In my line of work, I’ve met some incredibly unhappy people, but this Kidless Kim takes the cake! Jill, thank you for finding the humor in this situation…if I had run across this myself on the internet, I know it would upset me but your commentary is priceless and uplifting, as usual :-)
Wow. I hate to tell KidlessKim this, but it’s possible for her to earn some of those badges without having children. I sure hope she’s as tight and perky as she accuses mothers of no longer being. I hope she’s a good mom to her cat.
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Gosh Kim sounds like a real class act… I bet her mother is real proud of her little bundle of joy.
And I just love the way you can find the funny in this.
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Wow, that’s a whole lotta angst from people who were all born in the same way and were all babies/toddlers/tweens at some point in their lives!
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LOL!!! REALLY!? Do these people realize without kids humans would be extinct and at one point they were the obnoxious brats they hate so much. I personally find motherhood to be a very rewarding job. There is nothing better than cuddling with my son after he vomits in my hand and assuring him he’ll feel better or dealing with so called snotty obnoxious kids just so my kids have companions to play with and don’t spend their life in solitude. I’ll take the stretch mark badge!! Honestly I wouldn’t mind getting rid of a few of them so my son would stop calling my belly old, but, they are a constant reminder that I created a life. I suffered 9 months of aches and pains not to mention the labor to get a little person that brings me so much joy and with one little hug can brighten up my whole day. There is nothing more rewarding than being called Mommy.
I second this. Love this comment
My goodness, absolutly shocked that these kidless people would be such haters. What do they think their own mom’s did for them growing up!! Do they hate their own partents this way ?
I don’t care whether other people feel the need to procreate, but rabidly childfree people baffle me. You would think that people without children would be able to find better things to do than go on and on and fucking ON about them!
Well I guess they have to do something for attention since they don’t have children to crawl all over them & follow them to the bathroom like we do.
I would like a Moo t-shirt. And a sash for my badges.
Also want that shirt
I respect and understand any woman’s desire not to have children. But what I cannot understand is how making the -personal- decision not to procreate turns someone into a public child-bashing hate-monger. Everyone is entitled to live their lives how they chose, childless or not, but actively seeking out an audience to laud praises for hate-filled diatribes against those who chose to surround themselves with family speaks to a lack of morality that I can only assume indicates a profound lack of positive role models in her life. I feel very bad for this woman; someone who hates a mother’s ability to love her children has obviously never felt a mother’s love. She must have a very sad life that she should choose to surround herself with such an obsessive hate for that which she has never experienced first hand. I pray she finds the help and support she obviously needs. <3
Thank you for saying everything I wanted to say but was too tired to find the words for because I was up half the night!
I also want to thank you for exactly what I wanted to say. I can only feel some pity and sadness for them because of how they are actively living their loves with hate. It’s also sad to think that they possibly (whether consciously or not) direct this hate towards their own mothers. At least some of them had to have a loving mother, and that makes me the saddest of all. I would hate for my children to end up feeling this way about me.
Thirding that. I don’t agree with everything posted and honestly, I don’t really feel being a mom even makes me all that special, let alone the sanctity, this is my entire identity thing (my career and hobbies are also still very much who I am)—but these are some VERY hateful, misathropic bitches!
They get REALLY snotty and mean towards the unfortunate parent (cause they also hate “Duhds”) who ventures on, politely points out much of what Jen did…and bam. And no, not me—-I’m frankly not that brave.
Kidless Kim is a jealous hater. I pity her.
For me, the most offensive part is when KK implies that she has been to a library.
Moo.
Ha! I’ll proudly second that “Moo”…LMAO
Paige Kellerman recently posted..How We’re Doing…on a scale of one to ten
Wow…as horrible as their commentary is, I have to laugh. It is incomprehensible why we moms do what we do. After all, there’s a lot of poop-related work and no pay, the hours are horrible, and every time I’ve requested a vacation day, someone’s walked up and peed on my couch.
But, the best kept secret is how much you love them after they’re born, and how the scariest thing about being a mom really is loving someone so much that if something happens to them, you’d be completely devastated.
That said, I love how you turned it around and kept your sense of humor. Loved this post. And, hopefully, all those commentators will remember that someone gave birth and raised them once.
Also, do you know the best way to get pee out of a couch?
“and every time I’ve requested a vacation day, someone’s walked up and peed on my couch.” OMG – I’m DYING with laughter over here!!!! Thank you! I needed a good laugh this morning!
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Agreed, certainly laughed out loud at that comment. Glad my speaker phone convo with my boss was on mute at that moment!
Totally loved the vacation day comment.
Btw if you find out how to get the pee out of the couch share the answer with me please
Hi Paige. Regarding removing pee from your couch, if you go to the message boards and page @Love, she can direct you to a post where someone posted their homemade cleaning solution that works on every type of surface. I apologize for not having the direct link to the post, but it may be worth checking out!
Wow. I’m with the other ladies who are eternally greatful KidlessKim isn’t contributing to the gene pool. And I’m proud to be a vomit-catching-stretchmarked-saggy-boobed-sneeze-when-I-pee Moo!
Good job Jill for turning hate into humour :)
Haters gotta hate. I’m so glad motherhood has taught us to have one helluva sense of humor! Up with the moos!
Kidless Kim….agreed, she is a total hater. The world could do without more like her. But look at all of the free publicity (albeit negative, but really there is no such thing) she just got from her rather misinformed and twisted post. Just as an aside Jill, I have also gotten feedback about my past posts such as “does Kristen even LIKE her kids???” Seriously? Obviously these people don’t have any of their own or they are too delusional to realize that their kids cannot possibly be perfect. =)
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… which is why I refused to link to the original thread. :)
And, I get that shit ALL THE TIME. So ridiculous.
I’m a young mom I had my son at 21.. I actually really appreciate and take a deep breath reading your book knowing that its not only me that locks myself in the bathroom and cries. I never wanted kids needless to say I had one and it was the best thing that EVER happened to me on so many levels. I was never a child hater… My son gets on my damn nerves sometimes..ok a lot of time… But reading your book made me realise I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE and us MOTHERS need to stick together and talk out loud so we don’t go postal! I said before and I will say it again I truly whole heartedly appreciate this book and all of the scary mommy moments and knowing WE are not alone!! THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR BEING MOMS IN REAL LIFE!
Why the f&^% do they think we have poop coming out of our vagina? Seriously, I am clueless and I had two children vaginally. Where do they get their info, the back of a school bus? Maybe I am doing something wrong?
I used to be one of those “Shut that KID up” and “they need an adult section of the restaurant (ok, so I still think they should because I don’t want to sit by the old maids either, much rather sit with a rowdy group of people with kids)”
Maybe they need a puppy or something to keep them busy rather than think about poop and our stretch mark covered boobs. SERIOUSLY
I agree, I also think they need a no kids section of places but so my kids dont need to hear the childless loudly cussing and talking about sex, drugs, drinking, condoms and all sorts of other stuff I dont even want to hear about as an adult, like you I would rather sit in the family section (even when I dont have my kids with me)
Internet hate is such an ugly thing. Love how you turned this into something to make us LAUGH instead of STEW.
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KidlessKim can suck it. Motherhood rocks!
Cooter? Did she really say cooter? Not just once, but twice? Hers should be sewn shut.
She’s obviously not using it, anyway.
another vote for MOO accessories!
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“The wide vagina badge”
Hilarious. People are always going to hate, no matter what. Let them, I feel pretty good about my wide vagina.
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My vag is cavernous now. I’ma make a badge.
Arnebya recently posted..It’s Not Me, It’s You.
Um, I am a childless person (by choice) and I CANNOT BELIEVE how unfunny and imbecilic KidlessKim sounds. Since she is also childless, how could she possibly know the things she claims to know about what happens to a woman’s body when she goes through pregnancy and birth? If it makes the moms on this thread feel better, not every childfree ladyperson on the Internet thinks these (ironically childish) thoughts. From a non-mom, THANK YOU for the important work you do to raise responsible, healthy children. I admire women who have the strength and drive to do that, since I don’t. Lastly, your kids will one day pay into a system that will help pay for my healthcare needs in old age. THANK YOU to your children, too.
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We refer to those as badges of honor in my house.
Consider them a bucket list for being a mom.
I realized 3 days after school had started, I hadn’t taken a shower in 3 days. ugh. Crazy busy times I tell you.
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I’m assuming you’re talking about these jerks? I read some of their threads & they really make me sick. It amazes me how much hate there is in this world. http://www.refugees.bratfree.com/read.php?2,232461
Bratfree has taken some nasty swipes at us, too. Even worse than the things they said about us, was what they said about our autistic kids.
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People with that much hate in them should ,in fact ,never have children. It’s a positive that they have made the decision to remain childless, for themselves and for the rest of us.
Yup, that was one of them. I refuse to link to the rest!
I could say a lot, in fact, I want to, but I’m going to try my best to hold my tongue. Firstly, I wouldn’t be surprised if she were a teenager. And, I’d like to say, on behalf of the parenting community, THANKS A THOUSAND TIMES FOR NOT REPRODUCING. I think I speak for everyone when I say I’m really glad I won’t ever have to cross paths with you.
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If you will recall, I seemed to have brought out a few “haters” on my guest post here about my view on having kids (in that I will never have kids.) I don’t hate them, but they’re not for me. However, I got a blog post out of it at the time, so win-win for the barren ovaries of OCD bloggers!
As for this Kim creature, let’s hope she receives the hermit badge and chooses to keep her ignorance away from the rest of society. Or even better, the “Comcast” badge. That way she will have spotty Internet access and not be able to comment. Win again!
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OK, now I want underpants that read, “Tunnel ahead”.
I have to give her credit for “stretched out nipples that look like a flaccid penis”.
I hate to tell her this, but kids or no kids, her body is going to go through some of those same changes as she ages. If she thinks her boobies are going to stay perky when she’s 80 just cuz she was never a milk bar, she’s got another think comin’.
One last note? I’m surprised she didn’t throw the kitten down the incinerator when it peed on her. Then again, maybe she did….
tunnel ahead…that was pretty good.
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Kid haters in general crack me up…..They must forget that they too were once kids…..If i were their mother, I’d be SOOOOOOOO ashamed.
What a horrible, sad life these people must have! Poor Kidless Kim. Someone as bad off as she and her comrades don’t need to procreate.
Amy recently posted..Awkward
“Motherhood, gross as it may be, is the best thing in the world” — Damn straight and I say such fiercely as I sit at my desk at work proudly entrenched in the filth badge because, well, I don’t really have a reason. I just got used to not showering every day that now it’s just eh, I’ll get to it.
There are all types of idiots on the interwebs. Thank you for making their idiocy at least funny, Jill. (OK crotchfruit is pretty damn funny by itself).
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Someone give this bitch a baby. Bitches love babies.
Bitches be trippin’….
Kidlesskim is just one of her personalities. She is also carjackingkim, circusclownkim, cowgirlkim, wallstreetbankerkim, and kenkim because, with mommy issues like that, her mother must have pulled some serious Sybil-type shit. Locked in a closet, forced enemas*, the whole thing. And aren’t you rude for bringing up all that painful stuff with your bodily fluids talk? You might as well as said, “Hold your water, Kidlesskim! Hold your water!” So please…let’s be a little more sensitive in the future.
*Hmm. Maybe that’s where she got that pooping from your vagina thing.
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I think Melinda has it right. You don’t become so hate filled when you have a good family, so hers must have been pretty screwed up. I imagine she was that kid who could only get attention from mom when she was really bad and so, now, continues to bash moms to get attention. Even negative attention is better than no attention. Sad, really.
It’s fine to believe motherhood is a waste of time, but to actually waste time putting those beliefs into a website is bizarre to me.
It’s weird worldwide web….
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OMG, that is so funny! How ignorant KindlessKim is . . . thanks for turning it around on her! My 17 year old has a friend who already feels that way about children. She had the nerve to tell me that all little kids are natural-born liars (while my 3 year old was present!). I have concluded that her parents are the reason she thinks that way — it would seem they found her needs to be a nuisance (such as driving their daughter to our house so the girls could work on a homework assignment), and were happy to ship her off to a residential high school program (and immediately turned her room into an office!). Who knows – Kindless Kim was probably raised by the same type of parents, and her self-loathing of herself as a child is now turned outward. Poor her . . . she has absolutely no idea what she’s really missing.
The amount of mom/kid hate out there is mindboggling. As someone who is related to one, I try to remember that when it comes down to it, you just wont’ get being a “moo” until you are there – and some will never get it. And some people will always put others down no matter what the topic or life decision is, because it’s the only way they can feel better about their own position or decision.
Her hatred for children and mothers is much like my love for Taco Bell: it doesn’t make sense to other people but it’s part of my identity. To each their own.
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I cannot believe that there is so much hate and negativity out there and it is directed at mothers and their children….how sad. To me it seems to indicate that they need to have a “happiness project” all their own…I would not want to see what their immune systems are like with all the anger they have.
My question is where the hell did Kidless Kim come from? Was she just dropped here out of some alternate universe as a grown, all knowing, filthy mouthed, twit? No I am assuming she has a mother, who probably did all of the above. Because you know that anyone who talks that way, or is so nasty and foul could not have been a sweet pristine little child who was never sick, never dirty……
Does she kiss her mother with that mouth? I mean really is she proud?
I have a 21 year old daughter who will probably never have any kids. Just because she doesn’t want them. And that’s okay with me. But she would never belittle or underrate anything that I did as her mom from giving birth to just dealing with the shit moms deal with everyday.
Where exactly does Kidless Kim think children should come from?
I get how kidless people get annoyed by other peoples kids, I do too and I am a mother but to imply we shouldn’t take our kids anywhere as not to irritate the childless people is rediculous! There are more brats then kid haters so maybe they should stay home with their cats and not be bothered by our precious angels’ shit, antics, potty training, fits and whatever else they decide to do that day(;
KidlessKim, the cat lady will eventually turn into a stinky fat hag that all the kids will either run from or terrorize for being such a bitch! Have fun with that KK, karma is a bigger bitch then you will ever be!
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“karma is a bigger bitch then you will ever be” should be on an e-card, lol…
Three shout outs to kidlesskim for being so self-realized! If you don’t like kids, then don’t have them. As a “moo” myself, I’m thankful kim keeps her oxygen-depleting rants to “moos” and their trisomy 18 “tard” children, rather than creating future serial killers of her own. Most of all, I am thankful for kim finding an outlet for all her anger, rather than getting a life. Humanity doesn’t need that plague of focused bitterness.
Hopefully she will squeeze in her time between earning her own kidless bitching badge and measuring her vagina to find the perfect Halloween costume for her kitty to parade around. Of course, that would lead to another post about how all the “brats” and “moos” take all the good candy on Halloween and leaving none for her and her pussy. Now that post would be hilarious!
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Thank you :-) This post just made my day. My husband who was reading over my shoulder is now cleaning up the coffee he just spit out after reading about her “measuring her vagina to find the perfect Halloween costume for her kitty to parade around.”
Hey, if motherhood aint for you then fair enough. But why do people spend time on Mom blogs, taking the time to comment so extensively? You don’t like it? Move on. But the hate is telling!
Oooh, see, I was with you right up until the end, but, really? Best thing in the world?
Have you forgotten cheese exists?
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fantastic point, megan!
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I don’t know Megan. Cheese… “Momma I love you, come give me a kiss”… cheese… “Momma I love you, come give me a kiss”… Some days it’s a toss up.
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Now that’s a great point, but have you considered all the different kinds of cheese? Provolone, Swiss, string, brie, blue, boursin, cheddar – and so many, many more. And all delicious.
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Replace cheese with butter, and I’m right there with you.
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Mmmm, butter. I’m just going to spend a moment thinking about the delicious things I can make with butter.
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I bet she is kidless b/c she can’t find anyone to sleep with her. She seems angry.
I feel KK and her followers are nothing but pathetic losers! It takes all kinds in this world but to read the garbage that these people write and comment on, leads one to wonder what kind of people they really are? I have my thoughts, and they are not pleasant. If they truly believe that mothers and children are as terrible as they write about, one can only think about the horrible souls and hearts these types of people have.
That’s…a lot of bitterness.
I have a hard time understanding how someone could hate something so much…when they’ve never experienced it! (not that it would be any less creepy if she said “I’ve had 5 kids and I hate them all, so I know what I’m talking about!”)
Not liking kids is fine – some people aren’t “kid people” (which I do understand, even though I am a kid person myself). But what purpose does this bitterness serve?
Maybe it’s some weird joke/social experiment!?
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Wow – some people are down right evil. I am soooo thankful that these evil ones don’t procreate, because they would raise a bunch of miserable, evil, unhappy, unproductive children.
Motherhood isn’t glamorous but it is the most amazing thing in the world. I am a better person and my life is so much more fulfilling because of my son. My husband agrees – so it isn’t just us “moos” who feel this way.
These people can suck it!
Wow, Kidless Kim is kind of reminding me of the special grandparent (I didn’t say MY mom) who abhors kids acting like kids….because obviously (ahem..passive-agressively) moms today (me) are doing things totally wrong.
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PS…I think you need to bring back Kidless Kim on a regular basis as the Scary Mommy alter ego!
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Well our “snotty little fuckers” are going to be taking care of their nursing home bed sore ridden asses some day so they better watch what they say – people don’t forget!
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I can’t say I’ve earned ANY of KidlessKim’s badges, nor do I know anyone who has. What is the deal with the turds in the vagina thing?? I have no idea what she’s talking about, and obviously neither does she. And I know people are saying that wide-vagina doesn’t apply to c-section moms, but I really don’t think it applies to most vaginal birth moms either. I’ve done both, and my vag did go back to almost exactly the way it was before, because it’s elastic like that. Must have something to do with the fact that THAT’S WHAT IT’S DESIGNED TO DO.
Kims uterus is most likely barren!!! Her eggs most likely hate her!!! And third no man in their right mind will ejaculate any where near her!!!!
What to be, Jill! People can choose not to have kids, but why bash others for having them?
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I mean WAY to be. Jeez.
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You know the magical thing about finding this kind of harsh ass bitchiness in the world? We don’t have to plot revenge. They will never know the depth of love or what unconditional really means because KidlessKim and her kind will never be a mom. She may never hold vomit in her hands and she’ll have time to judge us moms and her bitter hateful ass will never know 1/2 of the joy as my wide, purple striped one! Lalala, happy happy:) Thanks for the laugh and for being a cursing mom:)
While I totally agree that this woman obviously has issues I’m actually commenting to answer an FAQ I noticed while reading comments. The reason that she referenced poo coming out vaginas is due probably to extreme misinformation on her part
Sorry, commenting from my phone which is deciding to be stupid. Anyway a fistula is a fairly common birth complication in third world countries especially parts of Africa where it is believed that sex with a virgin can cure AIDS and so very young girls give birth. A fistula is a rip that occurs in the tissue between the vagina and the rectum and it’s very dangerous because the areas where it is most common are ones where they don’t have access to modern medical care and they just don’t have the tools and resources to repair the tear and clean all the fecal matter out of the vaginal/cervical area which is currently very vulnerable from having just given birth.
WOW! Yup, Mo, I can understand some people not liking/wanting kids, but seriously… the human race would be EXTINCT without SOME people having kids! I don’t really consider myself a “kid person” — I love my own kids and the other ones I know are ok. I can’t believe she can hate mothers just because they have children! It’s ludicrous! I think my head is going to explode.
AND! SHE was one of those annoying little kids, too at some point. I might argue that SHE STILL IS!
Maybe this is the jealously, rage and frustration of not being able to have kids manifesting itself into hating all those who can, do and did. I know some people like that. They are unable to conceive. After years of trying, they have become bitter and lash out at all things baby and motherhood. “Kids are gross. I’m so glad I don’t have them now.” Or “I like my va-j-j all in one piece.” Regardless, it is really sad. Nothing funny from me today. I’m dealing with the pond scum of the earth myself. Great post, as always. :)
I read a little bit of kidless kim’s posts (or rants as i would call them) and i think she is just a bigot. She calls woman who have children moos and rants about how stupid they are and going on and on about it. Well that’s her opinion and if that’s how she feels fine, i don’t have time to read her stuff nor do i care. I also know of a few groups who hated other humans just because they didn’t like them: those groups are called the KKK and Neo-Nazis. i don’t see her as any different.
I will make a good mummy-girl scout. :)
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I know , she must have been one of those babies that was dumped in a trash bin and is now hating everyone for having babies.
(Jill – I want to remain anonymous because I have a professional life but I also feel the need to comment.)
My vagina is tighter since my vaginal birth – I think it has something to do with my episiotomy and subsequent repair so “Your Bladder won’t fall out when you’re 80″ but quite frankly I was too high on pitocin to understand what my doctor was saying. So Yay Vagina!
LOL. High five, vagina!
I can’t even imagine what this woman’s mother or childhood are/were like. She has some serious issues, including a giant shoulder chip of intolerance. She’s gross.
Ohhhhh Kidless Kimmy – Obviously you are one Pringle short of a full can . Everyone knows kitten pee stinks worse than kid pee. Total apples to oranges my dear. You were a kid once – remember that when you bash motherhood. Kind of ironic isn’t it? You bitching about hating kids and yet, WHOA hang on – you used to be one!
On a side note to Scary Mommy – Love the badges – they are perfect.(I need a badge for cleaning poop art off the wall. I’ve earned top honors)
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I would qualify for poop art badge as well
I could go on and on about the BF group and how horrible they have been to me and my family. I have a Trisomy 18 “tard” (as KK likes to put it), and I happened to call KK out on it on my daughter’s blog. I few months later, I got slammed with over twenty negative (yet anonymous) comments in just a few days. On saying that maybe my tard could come to her house and lick her windows. Classy, huh? I’ve been accused of welfare fraud (we’re not on welfare), tax fraud (because we received gift cards and didn’t report them. . .which isn’t required), and WIC fraud (ok, we were on WIC for about a year, but our income qualified us). Oh, and I was reported, but I’m not sure how they were able to do that. I’ve also been accused of stalking their website (I looked once just to see what they were saying and what type of information they were putting on their forum), yet KK is the one going to MY blog and dissecting practically everything I’ve said. When I looked, there were twelve pages of comments on their forum of me and my family, and that was over a month ago. Really, I’m not that interesting of a person. They even went as far as looking up and posting the web address of my husband’s work. Of course, with my sixth child on the way, I’m giving them even more to talk about. I’ll admit that it bothered me at first, but now I just ignore them. I pity them, unfortunately. While I turned my back on them and went the kill-them-with-kindness way, Jill, I can’t help but love the way you turned their hate into comedy. I wish I had done the same. We all need a good laugh every once in a while! Thanks for helping me see the lighter side. :)
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That is horrible, why would this person put in so much effort to be such a shit human. Please don’t believe her BS and be happy!
I would never hold it against someone for choosing not to have children. The divided judgementalness of Kidless Kim is what is ruining this country. Totally agree that people who are proud to “hate children” should be compared to the KKK.
Damn I love you. Brilliant way of dealing with hate. :-)
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I’ve always wondered why adults can hate kids so much. Did they come out of the womb an adult? Weren’t they kids themselves once? Ridiculous! And whenever I see anyone eyeroll at my kids, I make sure to let them run around and scream aaaaaaaalll they want! lol!
Little does Kidless Kim know, the puke, poop and wailing are the easy parts of motherhood! The hard part is when children turn into awful, hateful, mouthy, so-called adults, like her. You have to wonder if wide vagina jokes are the same as big/little penis jokes, overcompensation/undercompensation. I have given birth to 6 children and my boobs do not sag, my nipples do not stick out, I do not have anything running out of my vagina (never heard of this one!)however I have stretch marks that could navigate a ship to China. (I imagine she has hemorrhoids though, from having her head so far up her rear!) Would I trade it to be as angry and vulgar as her, NOT A CHANCE, I’ll keep my wide vagina, thank you very much! Stay childless Kidless Kim and do the rest of us a favor!
These ppl are so dumb… wonder what their MOMS feel like having a child who feels this way about mother hood… idiots
Makes me wonder what kind of card HER mom gets on mothers day. Dearest mother or mommy dearest? Flowers for mom or bug repellant? Maybe Kidless Kim hatched from an alien pod….it would explain a lot. :)
Make that lemonade! Then add some vodka…
Oh WOW-I can’t believe people DO that! Evilness. You keep doing what you do best.
Here a moo, there a moo, everywhere a moo moo…eh? :)
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I admire your ability to laugh at that hateful creatures remarks and thank you for being brave enough to show everyone that even as super moms we are still human and our little blessings/children are annoying, gross, and needy but woman’s purpose is to bear children to populate the earth and if your not fulfilling your purpose then you are a “non-f*%#ing-factor” intended specifically for “kidless Kim”
I just have to say… I hope the next time I’m out in public with my little crotchfruit that I hope they annoy the hell out of these mutherfuckers. “Scream louder baby! KK didn’t hear you!”
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God she’s nauseating. As a precaution, she ought to go get sterilized. Or maybe it’s just been too long since she’s tickled a pickle.. That could explain her bitter disgusting bitch ass attitude. I mean what man wants to fuck such a hateful smut?!
Moooooooo KK. At least my non wide, stretch mark free vagina gets attention and my mother loves me.
Poor misguided Kidless Kim. Sounds like her mommy needed to give her more hugs.
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Holy cow, Scary Mommy. I had no idea sites like that exist. The haters stole your words and attempted to mock your content.
Can you take legal action when something like this happens?
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Nah, not worth it. If a site too my content and played it off as their own, I’d have an issue, but this I really did find funny. And super enlightening.
Why do people have to be so hateful? I understand. They don’t want kids. Great. That’s their choice. But be respectful of other people’s choices, dammit. Just how in the hell do they think they got here; by magic?
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I’m wondering what Kidless Kim did with the kitten when it peed on her? I imagine her loudly proclaiming her disgust in a high-pitched whine as she grabs the kitten by the scruff and flings it yards away, leaving it to fend for itself as she runs with arms flailing into the shower.
I was just talking with another member of the mommy club the other day, about how motherhood has made me so much more understanding of other people and a lot more patient…. maybe kidless kim will eat her words one of these days should she ever decide to embrace her ovaries.
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WOW! I’m actually sitting here in shock… Total and utter SHOCK! How on earth do people like Kidless Kim feel they are justified in saying such bigoted, horrible things. As other comments have said above, everyone has the right to have, or not have, children. To write about it with such distaste is an issue that goes far beyond anything I could ever imagine. Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I had no idea such blogs existed. xx
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What I would like to point out is that Kidless Kim doesn’t seem to realize is that motherhood also comes with an unseen superpower…the ability to kick some serious ass. She tangled with the wrong group of people.
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Oh, and MOO MOO mother-effer.
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Sadly, this post has probably given her more publicity than she should ever receive.
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Oh bless her! She just needs a high five. In the face. With a shovel. Good on ya Scary Mommy, handled with your usual wit and grace. Proud of ya!
It’s not often words can make my blood boil and leave me speechless at the same.
Leave it to Scary Mommy to find inspiration and humor in someone else’s shallow & vile sentiments.
I humbly bow to your bloggerly prowess – from one proud Mama to another.
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I dusted off my fisherman badge last night. I had put it away in a dusty drawer since my son turned five–hoping it would never see the light of day again…and then I saw the floaters in the tub.
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Wow, I can’t believe there are people like that. She is an awful person, and obviously has something wrong with her. It’s ok, she will be a lonely old woman with saggy boobs regardless of having kids or not!
Why is she so obsessed about pooping out your vagina? What the heck has she been reading or watching? Is that even possible?
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I have all of Jills merit badges, multiple times what with 3 kids but dont even get wtf kk is talking about with most of hers. The filth one makes me smile because at first I thought it was just me. I get so busy that I forget all about showering until Im too tired to do it or my scalp starts to get itchy at about day 3/4 (although sometimes it still is another day or two before I get to the shower) and I still wouldnt trade my moo status for anything. It is so much better than anything in world, including being clean and rested all the time, than these hateful people could ever understand. Ihave always responded with “& proud of it” when called a bitch and Moo will always get that response as well (now that I know the term (: anyway)
I have always been the type that responds with and proud of it when called a bitch
Please ignore the repeat at the end, I was typing on my nook and didnt realize it happened
The only thing I feel sorrier for is the little sick kitten that perhaps died while Kidless went off to pamper herself.
Wow, now Iv seen hipster EVERYTHING…
Body is made to produce babies? Too mainstream…must hate on everyone who does it.
WE can bitch about it all because WE’VE been through it. If you don’t have kids, step off, bitch!!
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I accidentally happened upon one of these “kid hate” sites a few weeks ago. I had NO idea there were actually people who had so much hate for innocent children. So muuch hate that they’ve decided to come together as a group, to commiserate with eachother.
You know, I may even agree a little bit, that some kids, maybe even most, can be brats at one time or another. However, its not the kids fault- they didn’t ever ask to be born. They didn’t ever ask to be a kid.
These people may as well try to justify the rebirth of slavery. Or nazi’s.
I thought we as humans moved past such nonsense.
Exactly, these kids didn’t ASK to be born, they don’t give you permission to bring them into the world, so why have them?
I realise not every shares this ideal, but this is one among MANY reasons I am childfree and proud to be.
Why force a life into this world with such horrible odds of it turning into a nightmare, especially in today’s world? I’ve seen so many suicidal people, people with mental problems, in fact, that describes more than 3/4 of the people I’ve met in my life.
Why expose what could otherwise turn out to be an innocent being to such things and the risk of becoming exactly like that? The chances aren’t worth it, so I do NOT believe it’s right to force someone into existence, especially when they never asked for it, or have the ability to.
I think that KK represents what is so prevalent and yet so wrong with things today: lack of tolerance of other people’s decisions & perspective. Conservative vs. liberal, Working Moms vs. SAH working Moms, child lovers vs. child haters. It all boils down to two very simple things: immaturity and tolerance. Other people’s choices might not be right for you, but that doesn’t make them wrong. Or bad.
KK was kinda funny in some of the descriptions, so I have to wonder if it’s all for humor (I have no interest in searching out their sites and reading them)? If not, it’s really just a lack of maturity and perspective of the world. We can’t all be alike.
I get the come together aspect of these childless people sites, they have theirs just as we have this and others. What I dont get is the fact that the whole thing seems to be dedicated to hate and mockery. The most positive thing I saw was “breeder bingo” where they have fun with things said to them when they say they dont want kids. Why would you want to go somewhere filled with that much mean? I would never go to a mom site (or one for any other interest) if it was all about the hate of those without kids (or the other interests).
The funny part is, this bitch will have popped out her own offspring in…I’m gonna say 2.5 years (her inane ramblings are those of a mid-twenties, “bitter that love hasn’t come my way” type). She’ll meet someone as boring as she is and will be a moo by 30. As will half the people who comment on her “blog.”
Sheesh, those people REALLY don’t have lives. I feel kinda bad, because I have like 30 minutes, max on my laptop all day. But those folks seem to have HOURS to peruse the internet to find parent and child related stories, then find ways to bash them. Order another pizza and Mountain Dew, assholes, because Scary Mommy isn’t going anywhere.
Signed – One of you Kidless Types (though I admit, not that bitter towards parents) Until I was 35 (IE: Wait your turn, moron!)
So, I checked back in on Kidless Kim out of sheer curiosity. I was honored that she chose to dissect my post above. However, in the same breath she admits to being in her 40′s & childless due to infertility, & then blurbs out “Childless by Choice” as well. So fortunately nature chose not to allow her to procreate (good) & we can simply relegate her to the “pity” area of our brains & not think about it further. Still weird that she can’t make up her mind if she’s Childless by Chance or Choice. Wonder if her mindless drones know that?
This hurts my heart. And yes, I’m coming from a sentimental angle instead of a funny one. I don’t mean to be all “June Cleaver” about it but I’m just being honest. I feel children are a gift, even if they are bothersome sometimes (and God knows mine are!!) and for people to be this hateful about the child/parent relationship well… there are no words.
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Her mom should read that. Who does she think did those things for her…and if it’s so disgusting, she obviously wasn’t worth it.
Why do I ever use google? After finding myself in a wormhole of “moo” haters, my mind is boggled. Not everyone who has children is a mindless “breeder ” with the sole purpose of cranking out as many children as possible. Furthermore, the blind hate is astounding. I suppose I could find as many hate sites devoted to people of different races or religions, etc. I just never realized people had such bile feelings towards innocent children. So sad. Way to find the humor, Jill. I am mostly disheartened.
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So this post had me discussing “child hate” websites with a friend of mine. I happened across one for the first time a while back, and was so offended and appalled that I bookmarked it. I pulled up the page, and started reading a few posts to my friend, when I came across KidlessKim!!!
I thought I’d share with everyone here, her signature:
“If YOU are the “exception” to what I am saying, then why does my commentary bother you so much?
I don’t hate your kids, I HATE YOU!”
Well. That answers EVERYTHING!!! Its not the children she hates!! Its US!
Can one of you who has the salt water taffy stomach tell me how to achieve it as I would find it very handy sometimes.
I am betting kim is one of those people who takes the elevator at the mall out of sheer laziness. Then shoots children dirty looks for being in strollers or you know speaking….god forbid
You know, Jill, you and this Kim lady unwittingly became supporters of one another. Do you know how? You both bitched about eachother on your respective blogs, doled out just enough information in your posts to make the blogs easy enough to find, and your respective readers went to each blog because they had to see what all the hooplah was about. In doing so, each of you increased eachother’s viewer tally, all in the name of hate. Excellellent job on both parts! Mission accomplished! You and Kim both demonstrated the exact amount of contempt for eachother’s causes to drag this battle out and have generated just enough interest and need for your fans to defend both of your honors that this can become a regular feature in both of your blogs. Well done!
You know, you could actually form an unlikely alliance with this Kim lady and maybe collaborate and demonstrate to both sides that it is okay to be childless or to have children. There is no need for childless people to be so smug about their decisions, or to have such vile hatred for children that they reduce themselves to calling them and their parents such horrible names. At the same time, parents need to stop being so smug about their decision to procreate and quit making it seem like your life has no meaning or purpose if you don’t have children. By collaborating, you can both educate eachother’s audience on the good and bad of both choices.
Think back to a time before you had children. Can you honestly say that there was never a time in your pre-child life where you bitched about the couple with the loud kids at a restaurant, or rolled your eyes when some lady in line at the grocery store went apeshit because her kid went doodie in his diaper? If you can, then you are a saint, because I know for a fact that most people tend to forget they ever had any kid hate prior to becoming parents.
Now, as a parent, you have obvioulsy experienced ups and downs of bringing these little critters into the world, but how awesome is it to know that this little person you gave life to is making their own mark on the world? How much do you want to share that joy with others, and have them at least appreciate how great it is to be a parent?
By collaborating, or at least not wasting time bashing eachother, you can actually not fuel the fire by trying to one up eachother and prove how right you are. You can agree to disagree, while also showing both sides that neither choice is the greatest or the worst. Right now both of you are sort of being obnoxious in trying to prove that being childless is grand, and being a parent is even better. You stooped to her level by allowing your loyal fans to bash her, and possibly visit her blog and leave choice comments. You and this site are better than that.
Actually, Newb, I’d venture to say that no, neither Jill nor her site ARE better than that. If you follow some of the ideas here, there’s frequently a LOT more of that sort of thing.
Otherwise, I agree with your post, though.
Motherhood is the absolute best thing in the world! So glad you wrote about this! Thank you!
I couldn’t read the length that was “newb’s” post, but I read enough to get the gist. I wanted to say that I, for one, did NOT check out that site. #justsayin
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First of all, Kelly, I am hoping you put my name in quotes because it was a typo, not because you were insinuating I am trying to start shit. Newb is my screen name on the SM message boards, and I am a semi-active member of the community.
I really think that both Jill and Kim are going about this the wrong way and only generating attention for eachother’s blogs. Maybe that is the intent, who knows? I personally don’t think it was handled well, and am disappointed that Jill stooped to Kim’s level. That is all.
It wasn’t meant to be offensive. I usually put nicknames in quotes, and I figured it wasn’t your real name.
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There is a very obvious solution…. Send kidlesskim and her hate filled posse to a faraway island. There they can live out their solitary lives with like-minded individuals. They will grow old with no younger generation to help them and eventually die and thus their species will die out completely! And so ends their circle of life :)
Funny, that’s exactly what we think society should do with you cows, except you’re STUCK with your spawn for the rest of your life, and have absolutely no welfare, WIC, or government benefits!
Moooooo!!! Little troll, be gone.
The more I read Mommy blogs the more I REALLY think people need to stop reproducing. I’m sorry, but Kidless Kim is SO right. The only reason so many women think reproducing in America is so fucking profound and amazing is because of the camaraderie that comes with it. Never mind that you’re contributing to the gene pool with your fucked up marriage (note: the confession section) and general shitty attitude toward life….just keep putting his dick in your vagina and being completely irresponsible and fishing shit out of the bathtub. You THINK being a mother is the best job in the world, but that’s only because at this point….you have no choice. You thought it would be fun to be pregnant, to have cute little baby outfits and a baby shower, to throw adorable children’s parties and be an amazing Mom. NEWSFLASH: STOP HAVING CHILDREN. It DOES NOT GET BETTER. YOUR KIDS WILL NOT BECOME MORE AWESOME IF YOU HAVE MORE OF THEM. You are not amazing, you are not profound. You are just like every other mother out there – mediocre and boring.
Sorry, but that’s literally what people need to be told at this point. Nevermind that there are 6 billion people on this Earth, and only some of whom actually get a life worth living. Adopt a fucking kid for Christ’s sake!
While I think you veer a bit towards the harsh—and I love my daughter with my whole heart (but again, I could never permanently stay home full time and make that my “career”), I do see your point.
And I also agree that plenty of women sort of feminist backlash thier way into motherhood when their career stalls a bit and do proceed to wrap themselves in the whole sanctity thing. And that most mom blogs have an almost 1950′s feel to them. But not “Leave it to Beaver” or “Donna Reed”, more like Lucy and Ethel. Or the female equivalent of “The Honeymooners”.
Which really doesn’t reflect my view of my marriage or parenting.
Oh clarifying, wrap themselves in the sanctity thing while basically hating every moment, but don’t really want to admit it. And kinda wish they had married a dude rich enough to support their family AND a nanny. Which is even more 1950′s.
Allie,
You sound like a real peach of a person and I am ever so glad that you are the arbiter of who has a life worth living.
I am not a mom so you can’t toss that silly shit you just spewed at me, but I am a father so if you want be like the angry chimp who flings shit at the visitors to the zoo, be my guest.
I love being a father and knew from a young age that it was something I wanted to do. It has made me a better person.
Hell, parenting has made most of my friends into better people because it helped moved us from being a group of self centered folks who spent more time worrying about our careers than giving back.
I am sure it is easy to dismiss my comment and or accuse me of being part of a group that has to applaud each other because we have a hard job.
It is all true, but so is the reality that it is harder to be a good parent than to be childless. We have responsibilities to others and for others that require constant thought and attention.
Ultimately I don’t give a damn whether you like, approve or agree with anything I say/write or do.
Really I am only here because I still have enough arrogance left inside to believe that some of the others might feel badly because of your ignorant spew and I want to support them.
There is nothing you said that cannot be refuted or turned around.
We are all people. Some parents are stupid assholes who never should have been allowed to reproduce and some people who aren’t parents are assholes too.
Some of them live amazing lives that give them enough time to troll parent blogs and leave comments about how much they hate parents.
That is quite impressive and worth emulating don’t you think. Hell, why don’t we start a riot because people have kids and write about them. It could be fun.
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“We are all people. Some parents are stupid assholes who never should have been allowed to reproduce and some people who aren’t parents are assholes too.”
I’d like to offer you a round of applause on that one. :)
I don’t like child hated person because I like child very much. Breastfeeding is a natural thinking. So, I think this is a not problem of our society.
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“And, P.S. KidlessKim’s, We know something you don’t: Motherhood, revolting as it may be, is the best thing in the world.”
TRUE. THAT.
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We were all revolting kids once, even you Kidless Kim, your poor mother.
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Does Kidless Kim not remember that the only reason she exists to make such stupid remarks is because some woman loved her enough to do those things for her? If I were her mother I think I’d smack her!
I think it’s crazy that people actually feel this way! How do they think they blessed this world with their presence? Uh, their mommy did all those “revolting” things for them. I just think people who feel the need to hate others will find reasons even when there are none. Hating women for doing what is natural and the biggest sacrifice possible, is odd and just shows their character. Sad.
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My “mommy” would leave me in a soiled diaper for over 24 hours, lock me in a closet when she couldn’t get me to shut up and abandoned me at three years old.
I’ll hate whoever the fuck I want to hate.
There are billions of people in this world who aren’t your mother. No one can stop you from hating, but that’s no excuse.
Wow. Just went to KidlessKim’s site…and wow. What a bunch of mean people. Why spend your time on a site being cruel and hateful about something that you know nothing about?
I did not read all 203 comments before mine so maybe someone already said this, but clearly ALL the people on that site are serial killers. What kind of heartless people don’t have any compassion for children!
Sounds like my insane SIL
I wear my vomit catching badge with pride… for someone with a very strong gag reflex that is impressive!
I can’t comment too much on Kim’s words but I do think it’s unfortunate if she can never appreciate the crazy moments of motherhood. If you can’t laugh about these things you’d be committed to an institution where they confiscate your shoelaces.
As much as it pains me to be ill and forced to get up and dance ‘the hotdog dance’ for the 5 millionth time, there’s a small reward of hearing my daughter laugh. Or when she tries to kiss my boo-boos for a change.. for me, that’s enough to take away the pain- even if just for a moment.
OMG that cracks me up! I know a few moos, who are mindless breaders, but in any case most mothers are wonderful! And if you can even earn one of the badges I say you have done youre job as a great mother. I, like many others have been peed on without changing clothes til later that day or caught throwup in there hands so it doesnt get on the couch, which will lead to more cleaning for us than just washing our hands. STAY strong mamas! We unite as ONE!
That’s pretty damn funny. Her comments are a little too smug for my taste and I don’t even have kids. [But I want them. One day. When I get a sperm donor.]
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May Kim find understanding and compassion someday but in the meantime, may every seat she sits in at a restaurant or plane be previously sat in by a toddler with sticky hands and a leaky diaper. She’ll never know…
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I’m wondering what these people think about the fact that someone gave birth to them…??
I mean, I didn’t necessarily want to have kids, but I didn’t bash people who had them. First of all, the reason that anyone is here is because of their mother. Secondly, it bothers me that so many people in the world are just hateful. Why is that?!?
And I did end up with a kid, totally by accident, and looove being a mommy to her…about 99.6% of the time. :)
KidlessKim is a KUNT.
Love love love! Kudos to you, Jill, for making such lemonade with those lemons.
I really hope people don’t click her link, though. I’d hate to see her pick up traffic for this… Ah, well.
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Really I’m learning some thing every day. You’re 100% correct. So, I’m trying to continue from your excellent blogs.
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This is hilarious…and kind of scary too.
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I am a PROUD mother of 5 children. 18 years old to 5 years old. Got the stretch marks, saggy boobs, and a few more grey hair and I wouldn’t trade it for the world. NOTHING compares to being a mom. It is the best “thankless job” ever! They are a crazy bunch of kids, wonderful, creative, and full of life. Being with them everyday and being a “mom” is who I am. BEST JOB EVER!!
How awesome/scary would it be if KidlessKim became KimwithKids at some point?! Would love to see her commentary after she’s forced to catch barf with her bare hands and would happily do it again in a heartbeat :)
Childfree means childfree. As in, as if she’d leave her great life without human boogers for something so absurd and revolting.
Motherhood is only the best thing in the world for some, not all. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have children suffering abuse in this country (or anywhere else in the world).
That “so there” at the end seems extremely childish, as is your retort to them. If motherhood were really the best thing in the world, would you honestly be so offended by their comments that you had to retaliate? No. You’d shut the fuck up and move on because if it were that “great” you’d have no problem with people bashing on it.
Actually, part of the point is that motherhood is not great. We put up with the bad parts because we like the end result. We laugh at the puke because running out and throwing ourselves into the shower doesn’t get the job done. In fact it’s just really selfish in that situation (kid puking = possible choking + did you drop him on the floor when you ran to the shower?). Everyone’s bothered by mean comments. I don’t think job satisfaction immures you to criticism. Motherhood does not give you the aplomb of the Buddha (unless you’re on really good hormones/drugs). Especially when you realize that in today’s world no one really gives a shit about all the work you do as a mother. You’re expected to do all this. If you can do it without letting on that there are nasty bits and wear full make up and heels then they’ll put you on TV.
Trust me, the childfree are NOT jealous of you at all! I wouldn’t even be here on this board, except that I happen to follow an outside link to this place.
You people here are pathetic! If you don’t like KidlessKim’s posts, then DON’T READ IT! Childfree people hurt NOBODY! Our actions are our own. We use less resources than you and pay more in taxes then the breeders of the world, so in effect, we subsidise all of you.
Motherhood is NOT the best thing in the world. Even the rats and the roaches breed, so what? You’re not doing anything special. Screwing a man and getting knocked up, like any dog or cat, is NO miracle.
Get over yourselves.
Uh… you might want to read your words and apply them to yourself. If you don’t like the words here, DON’T READ IT! Oh, and when you insult and demean people for their lifestyle choices, that IS hurtful. It’s also called bullying.
You pay more taxes? Boo hoo. I’m sure you’ll gladly accept repayment when it’s our children who are treating your illnesses in a few short years, or changing your bedpans, or protecting your rights and liberties.
You’re right, motherhood isn’t the best thing in the world, at least not all the time. But it’s a lot more rewarding than reading blogs of other people just so you can pick them apart and tear them down to make yourself feel better.
And lastly? Get over yourself.
*shrug* I went over and looked. The site is called “Bratfree”, so it’s pretty much what you would expect. I can’t get to worked up over it. They explicitly state no parents, so I wouldn’t expect to be treated like I was welcome if I were to post. Do I think their language towards mothers/parents is harsh? Yes, but I honestly don’t care if random people consider me to be a “breeder”. I don’t feel I fit the stereotype. Parents, just like non-parents, are all different. My daughter was carefully planned and my husband and I are happily married. I’ve been called selfish for only wanting one child. The choice to have (or not) have children is a very personal thing. It’s no one else’s business what people choose to do. I would rather people not have kids if they can’t take care of them or don’t want them. I don’t call that selfish, I call it smart.
As I said, I can’t be too bothered by what random people posting on a board called “Bratfree” think of me. Just so long as people are not coming up and calling me those names in real life, I don’t care. I don’t expect the world to be in love with my child. I do my best to teach her that she is a PART of a family and a PART of the world, not the center of it. I also strive to teach her to just be the best person she can be and to be kind and considerate. Not everyone is going to like her. Life is too short to let those people upset you.
Just wanted to say you are not a breeder. A breeder is a parent who has kids and doesn’t take care of them or doesn’t teach them how to be respectful and considerate. Example: Yesterday, there was a child in the store I work at who was completely out of control. This child was running through the store, pulling things off shelves and treating the store like a playground while his mother completely ignored him, chatting away on her cell phone. That’s a parent the childfree (or “kid-haters”) would classify as a breeder.
How can people who have no children argue about something they have no idea about? You can never understand what it’s like looking in from the outside. NEVER. Personally I am glad that YOU are NOT “breeding” if you agree with KidlessKim. You don’t deserve to have the love of a child. That would involve you being able to look beyond your own self centered world. Which you clearly cannot do or you would accept my choice to be mother and not insult it.
“Personally I am glad that YOU are NOT “breeding” if you agree with KidlessKim. You don’t deserve to have the love of a child.”
Personally, I think a childfree person (if they like kids) deserves the love of a child more than my mother does (I’m not going to repeat what she did; scroll up). Better to be childfree than do that!
Hijacked! Wow, I haven’t read the comments in a couple of days and I can’t believe how vehement it’s gotten. Well I shouldn’t be surprised I guess… It’s easy to bash people you’ll never have to deal with in person. Can’t we all just agree to disagree? Us cows love our kids and want to give them the happiest lives they can have. You child free peeps don’t want kids, and with some of the reasons I read here, we’re all glad of that. Can we go back to not knowing you mother-haters existed? You’re cluttering up my inbox. Kthanxbai
“Mother-hater” and “childfree” do not correspond with each other.
I am a woman and I don’t want kids. Sorry to blow your minds, “proper” women of the Earth. Instead of being anti-choice bigots about it and WISHING an unwanted PREGNANCY on us, how about you mind your own sad little lives. In any case, I’d happily abort. Kthanx.
I just saw this and Googled that childless-kidlesskim woman and was shocked that now she has put out a WHOLE BOOK spewing hate about what looks like is directed at moms! It bashes nursing moms calling our breasts “udders” and she goes on and on about motherhood NOT being the most important job in the world….ect. over a 100 pages of HATE. UNBELIEVABLE. I wonder how her own mom feels about her saying these awful things???Maybe she has a jackal for a mom like that little demon boy. IDK, BUT I HOPE she NEVER has kids because she doesn’t deserve them
Wow. What an angry and unhappy individual. Why do people have attack those who have made choices in their life that they are happy with. Yuck.
I feel sorry for HER mother.