The hardest part about being a gay dad has nothing to do with raising your children. Sure, at two years old, my twins are already curious as to what a Mommy is and why we don’t have one. But explaining it to them is easy. My kids are smart, open-minded and I’m reasonably sure they’re not homophobic. It’s explaining my family to other people that gets tricky.
There are a lot of questions that can lead there. “Where’s your wife?” “Where’s their mommy?” “I wish my husband would take the kids to the park sometimes.” Or, when I’m out with my partner, the one we get is, “Which one of you is the dad?”
We could lie, but what kind of message would that send to our kids? That there’s something wrong with our family and we have to keep it secret? A much better message for them to get is that strangers can be clueless sometimes, and that it’s our job to educate them.
“We’re both the dad,” we say. And then… we wait. The next move is theirs.
Before I became a gay dad, I worried a lot about where such a simple statement might lead. But now that I’ve been at it for two years, I realize people are fairly predictable. In all that time, I’ve only gotten a few different responses when I’ve outed our family. Everyone we’ve met, without exception, has fallen into one of 5 categories.
These are the 5 people you meet as a gay dad…
1. Your New BFF. Reaction: Unbridled enthusiasm
Within five seconds of knowing me and my partner, Drew, these people want to hug us, add us on Facebook, tweet @ us, invite us over for Thanksgiving dinner and beat the crap out of any homophobes who get in our way. They think it’s SOOOOO cool and our kids are SOOOO lucky, and they want to point us out to their own children. “Look, Caden! This is their dad, and this is their other dad! Isn’t that great?”
You can see their minds working. “Oh my God, I saw that report on World News Tonight, but I didn’t think we’d ever meet one of these families ourselves. We better hang on to these guys. Who knows when the next ones will come along.”
Or more likely, they’re just assuming that we get discriminated against or judged constantly because of who we are, so they want to make up for it by being as over-the-top pleasant as possible.
I’ll take all the New BFFs I can get. In most cases, we’re just as enthusiastic back to them. We tell them our whole story. We had a surrogate. She’s like an aunt now. Our egg donor is also an aunt, but then again, she would’ve been anyway because she’s Drew’s sister, Susie. (And if they need it spelled out, yes, I donated the sperm.)
New BFFs are by far the most common people we meet, which is one of the reasons I’m glad I live in Los Angeles.
2. Jaded Allies. Reaction: Feigned indifference.
These people are cool with us, too — just maybe a little too cool. They’re very quick to let us know that they’re familiar with other gay dads – tons of them. They’ll say something like, “Oh, right. There’s this couple at our kids’ school with two dads. Matthew and Alan.” Or “Yeah, my daughter’s best friend has two moms. They came to our house last month.”
Jaded Allies are less worried about making us feel comfortable with them and more concerned with how they come across to us. They don’t want to be seen as square or even the tiniest bit surprised, so they treat us like we’re no big deal.
They’re thinking, “Yeah, I saw that report on World News Tonight. These won’t be the last gay parents I meet. Better play it cool.”
Maybe they really do know a thousand other gay dads, or maybe they just want us to think they do. Sometimes we talk to these people longer and they show a genuine curiosity and kindness toward us. Other times, we just move on.
Jaded Allies are allies, and that’s good enough for us.
3. Closet Homophobes. Reaction: Cordial avoidance.
These people are not OK with us, but at least they’re polite. They’ll say something like, “Oh, how nice. Well, I need to go over here now.” Then they’ll quietly slip away to pray or throw up or something.
They, too, might want us to think they’re cool with who we are. But in their case, we’re not buying it. You can see the exasperated looks on their faces, the ones that say, “This is what I get for asking questions” or “Freakin’ Los Angeles! I should’ve known!”
These are the people who fell for the argument that Prop 8 would require elementary schools to swap out math and social studies for courses on the logistics of sodomy. “What they do in their bedroom is their business,” they’re thinking. “But they better not start doing it in front of my kids here at Rite-Aid!”
The worst thing that can happen to a Closet Homophobe is for their kids to start asking questions. “But where’s their Mommy, Mommy?” They’ll stammer or ignore the kid, maybe outright lie. “She’s not here right now.” Anything to keep their kids from being exposed to the gays too young. They may even plead with their eyes, begging us to play along, for the sake of the children.
But their kids aren’t stupid, and neither are mine. So whenever the issue comes up, I’m very clear that there is no Mommy in our family, never has been and never will be. I know that’s likely to stir up some more questions in your kids’ impressionable little minds, and frankly I don’t care how you choose to answer them once you’re out of our earshot. But while you’re talking to me, you’re going to hear the pride I take in my family, and my kids are going to know that I’ve got their back.
4. The Head Scratchers. Reaction: Utter confusion
This is the most entertaining reaction, and probably the second most common one we get. No matter how much we explain ourselves, some people are completely baffled by our family, like the Honda salesman we visited when we were shopping for a minivan.
“We’re having twins,” we explained.
“Well, your wife is going to love the Odyssey.”
“No, they’re his twins and my twins.”
“That’s great! So who’s the minivan for?”
“Both of us.”
“Well, it’s the perfect car for you and your brother. There’s plenty of room for you, your kids and your wives.”
I have no idea whether this guy was homophobic, or what he could possibly have been imagining went on in my house, but I know he desperately wanted to make that sale.
Then there was the guy at the Thai restaurant, who saw me and Drew each schlepping a newborn in a car seat to our table, while Drew’s sister strolled casually behind us.
“Are you the mom?” he asked her.
“No, they have two dads,” she answered.
“No two dads!” he insisted.
“Yes,” Drew said. “I’m one dad, and he’s the other dad.”
“No two dads!”
“Yes, two dads. We’re both listed on their birth certificates.”
“No two dads! No two dads! NO TWO DADS!”
I don’t know where that man is right now, but I’m pretty sure he’s still shaking his head adamantly and shouting, “No two dads!” at whoever will listen.
5. The Moral Crusaders. Reaction: Salvation mode
These are the people we dread. They’re not happy just to stay quiet. They want you, their kids and anyone within shouting radius to know that Satan is in their midst. They’re all too happy to point their fingers and condemn you as the reason for the breakdown of the American family, if not of society as a whole.
There’s no need to guess what’s going on in their heads, because they lay it all out. They’ll spew those “men laying with men” Bible verses, they’ll tell you you shouldn’t be in the military, they’ll want to see whatever legal documents you can produce to prove your guardianship or threaten to call Child Protective Services and report you.
They’re every gay dad’s worst nightmare. But here’s the good thing about the Moral Crusaders… they don’t exist.
At least, I haven’t run into any. Not yet.
Maybe they’re out there somewhere. Maybe gay dads in less progressive parts of America have to deal with them all the time. But to me, they’re boogeymen, who might very well just be figments of my imagination.
Before my kids were born, I was convinced I would face them all the time. But rather than let that scare me off from parenthood altogether, I did the alternative. I prepared for the worst.
I’ve been working on some great little speeches to defend my family against the kooks out there. Whenever I meet someone new, before I find out which of these 5 categories they’re going to fall into, I’ve always got my comebacks ready to go, just in case I’m about to be faced with my first Moral Crusader. Who knows what they look like? They can take many forms.
I don’t want to speak for all gay families, but if you see my partner and me out with our twins, by all means, come say hello. We really do like meeting people and sharing our story, and it makes our kids think we’re celebrities.
As for which of the five categories you fall into, it really doesn’t matter to me. Whatever your reaction is, I’ll be ready.











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Hilarious!!! My ACTUAL BFF is a gay dad, and I’m quite sure he’d agree with this. But we live in the south, so he sees more of the last one than I’d like.
Awesome post – children need a stable loving family, period. It doesn’t matter what that looks like.
This is so funny. People are nothing if not predictable!
Hahahahah! I love it. Ive had people think that a friend and I(which we have to kids that people seem to think are twins, mines obviously the runt being born 8 months later >.<) were partners. No, just friends, one of these days were going to keep it going to to see how many of the 5 we can get.
Dammit! I’m the BFF. I love me a gay dad. I had no idea I was so predictable! Love, Your BFF, Nancy :)
LMAO. I wanna be your best friend!
Must be Cali… My old neighbors (not age-wise, they simply moved a couple of years ago) were a lesbian couple (no kids) and my new neighbors (across the street this time) are a lesbian couple with 2 kiddos (one mom’s eggs and same donor for both). My youngest (7 years old) is over there all the time to play. And, he’s never once even asked why they have 2 moms – he frankly doesn’t care I’m assuming…??? Not sure which of the 5 I’d fall in – I’m not crazy gaga that I have LIVE lesbian couples living by me AND my kid plays at their house constantly and I’m not jaded in a fakey way – maybe because I’ve been around them for quite some time it just doesn’t matter; they’re just another family in the neighborhood?? Could there be a middle of the road 1.5 category? :)
I’m pleasantly surprised for you that you haven’t run into #5. Years ago I ran into that in the rural Midwest as a Jew — my own MD told me that the Holocaust was God’s judgement. We moved back here recently and I’m happy to report that no one has given us grief yet, and we love the new rabbi and his husband.
I wish you were joking..
I’m not joking re the American “Dr. Mengele” or our rabbi. I hope you find the former more offensive than the latter.
Funny enough, I didn’t even think of the latter! Much more shocking to me that a Dr. That gave an oath to do no harm can say something so horrible.
I suppose we all probably realized this would happen but it’s always amazing how much more simple kids’ reactions are. We started at a new daycare (we being our three year old and his 5 month old brother) and one of our three-year old’s new friends walked past with his dad. “There’s Gus and one of his mommies.” he said, “Gus has TWO mommies!” Unfortunately my partner didn’t hear the response… but as always, it’s gratifying that kids just take it with a grain of salt.
I’m so glad you wrote this, Jerry. (Other) people are weird. And sometimes they’re pretty great. It goes without saying that the super-cool ones are found in the ScaryMommy community. Pleased to (virtually) meet you!
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It’s good to hear that you don’t see much of that last type. That surprises me too, but then again those types, if they do exist, would probably rather aim their insults at a nameless, faceless group of people. I don’t even know you but you seem like nice dads (I guess that makes me your newest BFF). And maybe you really ARE nice dads. Perhaps you HAVE met some of that last type without being aware of it – perhaps they met you and thought, Huh. They’re not actually that depraved after all. Just think of the positive change you are creating by simply being you! :)
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Hahaha! Oh lord. You just outed me. I’m the BFF. Can’t help it. I love my lesbian mama friends too but gay dads? ((((((HUGS)))))) You’re just too cute. Sorry.
However, I have to admit I was a little puzzled when my daughter first told me about her best friend’s parents. “She has a daddy and a papa and a mommy. And her papa goes to work and her mama goes to work and her daddy stays home and takes care of her.” I was like, um, I think she just has a daddy and a papa. (But this three-parent home sounds like a brilliant idea. Two wage earners AND a stay-at-home parent? Can I do this?) And my daughter (who was 4) looked at me like I was nuts and said, “But you can’t make a baby without a mommy and a daddy!”
And that is what happens when you have a preschooler who understands the basics of how babies are made.
So then I explained about adoption…
And more recently, when she told me she wants to marry her other best friend (also a girl), I said, yeah, you can do that, some girls marry girls and some girls marry boys. And she said, “Oh wait! I forgot! I can’t marry her because I don’t want to adopt, I have to have a baby! I’ll marry Andrew.”
I probably should have explained artificial insemination at that point, but my brain was tired just thinking about it.
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A 3 parent household does sound like a great idea…in theory!! haha!
You nailed it! Thanks for another amazing post.
I have a similar situation, kinda/sorta….I have twins, one of whom has multiple handicaps. OMG. People act as if he’s contagious. Even when their kids are curious (naturally) and just want to try out the crutches, or helmet or whatever, these parents snatch them away.
I figure, kids like ours are lucky, they have us for parents.
Chances are the crutch-snatching parents don’t think your son is contagious; they think they are being protective of him or are teaching their own children manners.
My mom uses a wheelchair, and once my preschooler pointed excitedly at the mall, “LOOK, MOMMY! THAT LADY HAS A WHEELCHAIR TOO!” I stifled my cup-hand-over-kids-mouth reflex, as that teaches the kid, “Wheelchairs are so awful one must never speak of them.” But I did talk to her about not shouting things like that in public. She said tearfully, “What do you mean it might hurt their feelings?” She thought wheelchairs were just cool!
If I were to meet you I would be more in awe of the fact that you are raising twins and that those twins have two dads who are out walking with their kids.
I know it’s common now for dad’s to be involved with their children but it wasn’t the case for me or my guys, so when I see it I notice it. A lot.
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If I ever met a family like yours, I’d definitely try to make new BFFs (though I’d try to tone down the overly-familiar vibe it seems like you’re saying people exude. I don’t like it when people assume they know something about my personal life based on one arbitrary fact). Because I live in Alabama, and I think the majority of folks down here would fall into the 3rd-5th category, unfortunately.
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Here’s a stupid question for you, and I hope it isnt offensive. How should I explain it to my child? She is 4, so I don’t know that going into the whole sperm donor surrogate thing is going to go over well. I want to be BFF with you but I don’t want to put my foot in my mouth and ruin our new friendship when I say the wrong thing to my kid!
I don’t think 4 year olds need much explanation, just “Some kids have a mommy and a daddy, some have just a mommy, some live with a mommy and a Grandma, some have 2 daddies…” Yes, kids like to “WHY? WHY? WHY?” about anything and everything, but at that age they aren’t thinking about sperm or eggs.
I try to float in-between the first and second- I don’t want to embarrass anyone by being overly friendly because it really shouldn’t matter. But, I strongly believe in marraige equality so I want to be supportive too! I’m happy to know that you don’t mind our excitement to meet you. :-)
@Steph- I think just telling your child that they have two mommies or two daddies would be enough for a four year old. Kids are usually very accepting and as adults we tend to over explain things to them sometimes. :-) It doesn’t really matter if the children were adopted or through a surrogate with artificial insemination… the kids are THEIR kids in their heart. But, if your child does ask beyond that, try to answer as truthfully and simply as possible.
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Gay or straight, we all want what’s best for our kids and hope we don’t screw them up! Here’s hoping that we all meet good people that make this journey a little easier.
Wait, so you honestly never meet someone who’s between The New BFF and The Jaded Allies? I mean, personally, I usually really don’t care whether or not someone is gay. If they are, cool; if they’re not, cool. Either way, they’re probably getting laid more than me. lol.
It’s funny to me that human behavior is so predictable, even though I know it’s true.
Your blog is awesome.
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Hillarious! I am smack dab in between 1 and 2. I am sure I would want to be bestest of friends while trying desperatly to play it cool mentioning by best friend growing up was gay… so ya know…it’s totally cool that you are too! And gay dad’s? That’s just way too cool!
I’m glad to hear you are mostly supported. Maybe we aren’t doomed as society afterall.
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I’ve never met any gay dads, but I’m pretty sure I would be somewhere between 1 and 2…because like another person said, you all are just too cute (sorry!). And I believe marriage equality is super important!
Oh G-d I’m predictable!!!! How did that happen. I too want to be your best friend, but specifically yours, Jerry … you’re funny, and I enjoy your drawing, which is pretty much my prerequisite for new friendships. Plus, being a gay dad never hurts. UGH, I have to rethink everything.
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I’m a #1, but that’s because I know a bunch of gay families already. If I were my 92-year-old mom and met you, I’d also be inviting you to my church, which has all kinds of gay families in it. Fortunately, there are #1s of all ages and varieties!
Toooooo funny! Love the humor amid it all. You had me at the cartoons.
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I’m wondering, are these reactions of people you meet in public, who don’t know you from Adam? Or are they people you meet in social setting. I just can’t imagine going up to someone I don’t know and saying, “Which of you is the daddy?” I’m pretty sure you don’t walk into a restaurant and say, “Hi. We’re gay, and we have two kids. Anyone have any questions?” So I have to assume you’re talking about what happens in social situations. If you did the above, I think I’d be in the #3 category; not because I have any problem with your family, but because it’s freakin’ weird to do something like that.
In a social situation, I’m sure I’d come across somewhere between #1 and #2. There’s not really any description here for me, because I’d probably not have any questions or issues with you. I’d be more interested in your writing and whether YOUR 2-year-olds are as concerned with pooping on the floor as mine!
That’s why this blog is great. This is a situation that’s happening more and more, and those of us who are uncomfortable and unsure how to respond need some guidance and some insight. Thanks for blogging.
I dare say that hidden behind many 3s and 4s… are 5s. Well… maybe not in L.A. (wink wink.) Anyway, I think this because my neighbor is a number 5. Usually he would just pull a number 3 on you, but I’ve ‘eavesdropped’ on some Facebook arguments he’s had with gay people from – get this – his CONGREGATION. Yeah. He’s ‘leading’ people. Talk about making me want to go throw up and say a prayer. SWEET BABY CHEESES.
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As it turns out I am really, really bad with names. I found this out because my playground-day-care-sidewalk community there are both a lesbian and gay couple. Apparently the only thing that keeps any parents name in mind is their child and child’s name, so it goes something like this in my brain. “blond 4 yo boy … named … Jim … who likes dog’s mom … ROSE… I think … crap, that his other mom’s name, crap. i don’t want to mess this up again … no this is RONDA, for sure, crap … I better say something before she thinks this is a snub.”
“So, Hows Jim been lately?”
“Good, except his name is JOEY.”
“Sorry, anyway, I saw him at the park with ROSE last week”
“I’m Rose, Ronda told me”
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I have to hope that there is another category… if you meet a “real Christian.” I know so many people are going to take issue with the Christian thing but my point is not solely about faith. I guess I should say any human with a conscience. I consider myself in the Christian category and I also live in the south! (What about that for a stereo type). Well, I am not homophobic and although that is not my choice of lifestyle it is not my place to tell you that or judge you for it. Also if a real Christian or any other praying faith prays for you they should be praying that God bless you and your kids not to turn you straight. I know so many people that share my perspective, so not all “non-agnostics/atheists” are “moral crusaders.”
As far as my kids go, I have no fear of “gay exposure” for them. Being aware life is not going to “make” them gay. We have lesbians in our family and our neighbors are lesbians. Also, believe it or not, even down here in the south we grew up, went to school with and played with gays and lesbians.
At this point it is easy, like someone else posted, the kids don’t care and if they ask they take it at face value and move on. As adults we could use a lesson in this. As they get older there are still simple explanations. No one situation is the same so there is no black and white answer that so many people are looking for.
I am a little confused that #5 is hypothetical being that you have never met a person like this. You did state that its something you worry about. I am sure these people do exist but like anything please don’t judge an entire faith on this type of person. This would be like meeting any other jerk from any other category. Anyway whether you believe in God or not the people that are judging you are the ones in the wrong. Don’t waste your energy on speeches to defend yourself. If you haven’t met a true Christian when you do you will understand the difference. Genuine acceptance and love is hard to find anywhere you look. No where in this diverse human race is there a need for anyone to tear anyone else down. There are so many types of people out there and it is not worth your time to stress over any ugliness. I am a Christian and daily people judge me too. I don’t know why everyone thinks we all have to be a certain way. I really do believe “we can all just get along.” :0) ** I also agree with mom22tweens:0)
If you ever met me you’d get a ‘I’m with ya!’ I don’t know where that would fall but my partner and I are happily raising our two Little Ones together and when people judge (Bible Belt) it’s their own loss!
Wonderful post!! As a mommy who is bald, but not because of cancer, I can completely relate to the Cordial avoidance people. They always ask, “Do you have cancer?” and when I say, “No, I have Alopecia. That means…….”, they are gone before I can even finish my sentence. It’s like they are disappointed that I’m not dying. Crazy!
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I’m surprised you haven’t met any #5s, too! Maybe they’re more likely to come clean to straight folks like me, because I definitely met a #5 when my daughter was a baby. Said Moral Crusader came knocking at my door to deliver some “literature,” and I told her I would only take her literature if she’d take mine. I offered up my copy of “What the Bible Really Says about Homosexuality,” and she wouldn’t so much as touch it. She actually *recoiled* at it. I talked with her about my children’s gay aunts and what perfect parents I think they’d be and why we’ve selected them as our kids’ guardians in our will. Honestly, it was as if I’d just told her my children have actual pet unicorns that know how to knit sweaters. Mythical creatures!
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Not gonna lie, I’m definitely the BFF. I try to play it cool but I NEVER run into gay parents in my area so it feels like meeting a celebrity.
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