Dear Parents: You Aren’t That Special

Sitting at the pond, observing my four year old’s attempts at mastering the art of flotation, I watched a scene play out that I have seen time and time again: During swim class, there is no swimming in the area marked out for the lesson (which includes the dock), and every single day there seem to be parents who feel their children should be exempt from this rule.

Today, it was a mother who, upon being told by a lifeguard that they needed to be outside the buoys, responded “Well, we need to leave town in 30 minutes, and they want to play on the dock- they aren’t bothering anyone.” Except, of course, that they were, as they were about eight years old and running through the swim class full of toddlers. Plus, you know, rules.

Unfortunately, it seems as though more and more people feel entitled to break rules, be they unspoken or otherwise, when it comes to their children. The thing is, popping out a child doesn’t make them, or you, any more special than anyone else, and acting as though the sun shines out of that squishy little tushie? That just makes you a jerk. Here are some other places I’ve encountered parents who seem to think the world revolves around them and their children:

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1. The Movies. Don’t bring your beautiful three month old miracle to a 10PM showing of a horror flick. Your child WILL wake up and disturb others around you. No, you are NOT entitled to go see the film just because you want to. Hire a babysitter. Watching a movie in a theater is not a right, and disturbing others is just obnoxious. This also goes for bringing young children into late night shows where they will either be terrified or disruptive- just don’t.

2. Bars. I am shocked I even have to write this, but having witnessed quite a few people (especially in NYC) feel completely comfortable bringing their young ones into what should clearly be adult only establishments, and it makes me wonder what these parents are thinking? Why would you: 1. Want your child in that environment, and 2. Feel as though it is appropriate to bring them to a venue where other adults congregate to imbibe spirits and likely be away from children? You aren’t that special. Leave your precious snowflakes at home. (Obviously some bars are totally family friendly, especially in the early evening. I’m not talking about those).

3. Inappropriate restaurants. There are family restaurants. Lots of them. Go to those.

4. When there is an age/height requirement at a venue or attraction. There is a reason for it, and arguing (often loudly and at someone who likely had no hand in the decision making) about why your darling child who is a clear six inches too short to ride that ride should be allowed on it, just makes you an entitled brat. It’s called safety — no one is trying to personally inconvenience you by enforcing the rules. If you’re the person willing to argue and harangue people over the rules, you’re probably also the type of person who would sue if something then happened to little Johnny after you forced the issue.

5. Weddings or other events that are specified at “adult only.” Nothing is more irritating than hosting a gathering which is clearly labeled “adults only” and having a friend or relative decide that this rule does not apply to them. Couldn’t find a babysitter? Wanted your kids to see out of town relatives? It doesn’t matter. The host is the person who calls the shots, and imposing your little uninvited darlings on the event is both unfair and flat out rude. If you can’t bear to leave behind your kids, don’t go to the event- accept that your kids aren’t welcome everywhere at all times.

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6. Planes/trains/public transportation. No one would ever say you can’t bring your child on planes or public conveyances; that’s asinine and impossible. However HOW you bring your child is very important. Don’t be that parent that brings a high maintenance toddler onto a plane for six hours without being prepared for it. From my experience, no one gets upset with the parents (and are far more patient with the kids) who are actively trying to keep their baby/toddler/small person entertained and calm throughout the flight. People get pretty darn ticked off with the parents that seem to have no concern for their precious little bundle’s decision to repeatedly kick the back of the seat in front of them, or play their movie at full volume without headphones. Don’t be a jerk: Just because you are on an airplane doesn’t mean you aren’t supposed to be a parent.

The moral of the story is that you and your offspring aren’t that special. Be a decent parent — nay — a decent person– and do the right thing.

Your kids will be better for it, and you won’t be “that mom” or “that dad” that everyone can’t stand.

Doesn’t that sound nice?

Related post: 10 People Who Make Parenting Harder

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Lily is a mother of two with a penchant for red wine, coffee, and dark chocolate. She likes her job, loves her family, and eats too many croissants to ever contemplate spandex as a viable clothing option.

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Morgan 3 months ago

Why are so many of these commenters so aggro..chill its a forum lol.

Lynn 4 months ago

I used to bring my kids to restaurants all the time when they were 15 months but they would sit for as long as we did, and slowly and methodically eat their food. When they started getting crabby it was usually time to leave anyways and we were already waiting for the check.

Lynn 4 months ago

We had our wedding as adults only. Why? Because we couldn’t afford to have everyone bring their kids. If someone were to have brought their child there would have been no spot for them to sit. My niece and nephews were there because they are my niece and nephew. I don’t know if people got angry, probably some people did but the venue had limited space and we had limited money.

But that’s ok, the invitation request wouldn’t apply to the original poster.

Elizabeth S. 4 months ago

You are exactly the type of parent the writer was talking about. Apparently the rules don’t apply to you. It is NOT your decision to make, it’s the decision of the host. If they didn’t want children under 5, you should respect that or not go. Of course they didn’t kick you out, you are family and they didn’t want to be rude. Unlike you they have manners. You should try to teach your children better manners. I suggest you start at emilypost.com and go from there.

Eloise 4 months ago

Oh, so you’re THAT parent….the one who no-body likes, everyone tries to avoid, and who is the subject of negative discussion – you’re the sort of parent who gives the rest of we mums and dads a bad name.

You are the reason people have adult only events!!

No wonder some people refer to us as “breeders” – with attitudes like yours. What is the term?? “Entitlement minded breeder”. Yep, that describes you perfectly.

I think it’s RUDE to assume that another person’s adult only event is the place to attention-whore for praise and validation about your procreation choices. God forbid what your kids are going to be like in another 15 to 20 years (I can only imagine after being raised by such a narcissist). I pity their partners if they have an in-law such as yourself.

Guess what sunshine! Someone else’s wedding DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND YOU OR YOUR KIDS. Their day is NOT about YOU or your special snowflakes. Some people who witness your appalling behaviour may have referred to you as a stupid, dim-witted, rude, disrespectful, obnoxious cow (“twunt” is the word we use over here).

Idiot.

Leslie 4 months ago

You’re a dick.

bex 4 months ago

NEWS FLASH: Their wedding is NOT about you or your kids.

Kiki 4 months ago

Sorry. I have a family and no children. A family is whatever a person wants it to be. You comment offends me so much because my husband and I are not considered a family. We have dealt with fertility issues, health issues (me) and I cannot keep a pregnancy. My issues aren’t yours, but your attitude fucking sucks.

Catherine 4 months ago

Wow, talk about entitled attitude. A bride and groom have every right to request an adults-only wedding. Weddings are not by default “family” events, therefore don’t automatically expect to be allowed to bring your kids. There’s a reason people have child-free weddings and that’s because babies can often scream and cry when they are exchanging vows or become restless and whiny during the reception.

It’s appalling that you are calling the couple who was kind enough to invite you to their wedding rude just because a no-kids rule is slightly inconvenient for you. Get over yourself, the world doesn’t revolve around you and your kids. I sure am glad that I don’t know you, whoever you are.

M 4 months ago

I think it’s RUDE to have “Don’t piss on the bride” weddings, so I’m going to go back in time and pee on you at your wedding anyways, okay?

Sarah 4 months ago

Why is it inconsiderate? It’s the bride and grooms day; it’s about them! It’s not about you! Everything doesn’t have to be about you and your pweshus widduw sneauxflaques.

And I only really want the people who care about me enough to respect my wishes to attend my wedding. If someone cares about me, they’ll do what I ask on MY big day

Sarah 4 months ago

Wow, that’s incredibly rude of you. It wasn’t your wedding. It wasn’t your big day. You SPECIFICALLY did something you were asked not to do for the sanity and memories of the bride and groom. Why? So you could make a point? What point was that, that you didn’t give enough of a shit about the newlyweds to respect their wishes?

You are the kind of parent they’re talking about. You’re a dick.

mb 4 months ago

Are you kidding? It is 100% acceptable to ask a parent to have their child NOT KICK A SEAT ON A PLANE. Come the F on.

Exactly 4 months ago

And you’re exactly THAT entitled parent we can’t stand. 😉

MrsL 4 months ago

Hahahaha it’s a good thing you didn’t come to my wedding because my husband absolutely would have had you thrown out as soon as you arrived.

kkbbaarr 4 months ago

I’m glad you got to enjoy the wedding and that your kids are well behaved, but maybe the reason nobody said anything to you is that they didn’t want to have you cause a scene or make you uncomfortable. you didn’t throw the wedding so you should have respected their wishes since it’s their big day and not about you or your children. Frankly, the author has a great point about kid free functions, and I’m pretty appalled that anyone would just choose to ignore this without discussing it with the host.

D*mn Right 4 months ago

Yep, this! Thank you.

D*mn Right 4 months ago

Agree with Claire. Sorry, it’s just common manners to respect the wishes of the bride and groom. Get over it.

Bonnie Jones 4 months ago

Are you kidding me right now?! You had no right bringing a 2 and 4 year old, after the bride and groom CLEARLY asked guests to NOT bring children under 5. You are the very reason this article exists. What makes your special snowflakes the exception? This comment infuriates me. Have some insight and class. It doesn’t matter who you are or why you think the request was silly. It was THEIR day, not yours. Sincerely, a TN mama with manners.

Katie 4 months ago

Dear DM,
Congratulations YOU are the problem. People have adults-only weddings because it’s a day that’s about them, not you (GOD FORBID!), and some people don’t want toddlers/babies at an adult event like that. They have every right to make the rules, even if you personally think they’re stupid. In fact, I bet you that they wouldn’t even notice nor care if you decided to stay home and not come at all, which would have been a much better choice considering how rude you are. I’m sure they DID notice you after you blatantly broke the rules to make some kind of stupid point, and regardless of how “well behaved” they were, I’m sure everyone complained about you behind your back, because who DOES that? The only thing you proved on this couple’s special day is that you’re entitled, and either stay home or hire a baby sitter like you’re an actual adult who learns to take responsibility for deciding to have children. When I had my firstborn I didn’t punish OTHER people for not being ready for parenthood. No one else gives a rip about your toddlers except you, and you need to learn how to respect rules people made.

Marie 5 months ago

You’re a dumb cunt.

Mamato2 5 months ago

Possibly the kids of DM?! and who would blame them…

JoMarie Serrone Spero Pace 6 months ago

No where does it state not to bring your children out in public. I’ve seen little ones at Kid Rock concerts. Really? I believe common sense is not so common these days.

Mande 6 months ago

Yes! Oh how many times I’ve heard “I paid xxxx dollars for this vacation my son/daughter can ride whati want them to ride.” Yeah lady, like every other person in the park didn’t pay xxxx dollars for their vacation too. It drives me insane. My husband calls these parents “entitlement beasts.”

Angela Webber 6 months ago

At my wedding, my aunt AND my husbands aunt BOTH decided to bring grandkids with them, uninvited…..4 uninvited kids at our wedding. It was fun scrambling for extra seats for these kids….

I certainly didn’t tone down my wedding for them either. Don’t want the kids seeing my new husband sticking his head up my dress to get my garter, don’t bring them! Don’t want your kids seeing my bridesmaid nasty dancing with the groomsmen while super drunk…DONT BRING THEM!

Weddings really are not a place for kids…not fun ones anyway

Angela Webber 6 months ago

Because when I have paid for a sitter to have some time away from my kids, I don’t want to hear yours. Your kids are prefect little angels until one day they are screaming while everyone else is trying to enjoy their meal. Go to applesbees or some place for families if your child is too attached to be away for a few hours

Cindy VanLerberg 6 months ago

Omg yes please!!!

Lee 6 months ago

these are judgy. Some babies do great at movies at three months.Some have to choose between a sitter and going out at all. Same thing with kids at a wedding. Are you sure they didn’t talk to the bride about their situation? Some kids did great with one flight distraction last time but didn’t the next time. Sometimes parents are frazzled and unprepared, it’s not a personal attack on you. Some people want their kids to be around great live music that just happens to be at a bar. your lack of generosity and understanding toward your fellow parents is a greater crime than anything you listed above.

Deanne Roberts Claiborne 6 months ago

And let me add school parking lots during drop off and pick up times. Can these patents not see how they are teaching their children that it is okay to disregard rules? These are the same parents who will react with shock when their child is arrested for breaking the law. Smh

Courtney Nagle 6 months ago

That’s all fine and well. But a bride and groom shouldn’t have to add in a compromise to make their day into something they didn’t originally want. My fiancé and I are planning a semi kids free wedding. Only our sons and niece and nephew will be there. Not because we don’t love them all to death – but because, as an adult myself I like getting out and doing things without my beloved children. If a guest doesn’t like that – they can simply check off decline on the invite. Boom. Problem solved.

Abigail Michael 6 months ago

First article I’ve agreed with in a while; except kids in most places is fine if the parents just parent instead of letting them run riot without any respect or control for others or things!

Francis Mae Street 6 months ago

If the rules say not to take your kids, don’t! Movie theater before the previews start it says to turn off your cell phones and to make sure your small children don’t interrupt other people. If they’re noisy you have to leave. if you’re invited to a wedding and they tell you adult only and you can’t find a babysitter don’t friggin go. You do not have the right to break the rules just because you want your kid to do something

Kiturak Anderswo 6 months ago

^^^^ wss. “She was kind of hoping they wouldn’t come since the kids weren’t invited and they lived out of state”? Wow. And it’s *the parents* we’re supposed to find rude here?

Angela Lynn 6 months ago

I mean seriously, seven kids and out of state?? So what were they supposed to do leave the kids home??? Or better yet come stay in a hotel and hire a sitter from a service right?

Angela Lynn 6 months ago

Here is my take. The bride was an entitled shit, who invites a relative living out of state that you KNOW has seven kids and days you can’t bring the kids??? Are you serious??? In my opinion that invitation was sent expecting a decline because they wanted a gift. Especially if you are hoping they won’t come. How about just not inviting them.

Heather Brooke 6 months ago

We sat with our 7yr old when they were 2. Your turn. Enjoy!

Kristin Tullock 6 months ago

^^I wish I could like this 100x!! As a mom of 2 toddlers and 2 older children I can safely say my older kids are no where near the toddlers and trampling over them! Are you kidding me? We live in a vacation area and the playgrounds are packed with ppl on vacation. We visit the park after dinner and at least 4 out of 6 nights parents make the “We are on vacation” excuse….My kid cut in line-my 10 year old plowed down your 1 yr old-my kid wants all the shovels in the sandbox bc We are on vacation! There is no excuse for bad behavior! Entitled parents grow entitled children…once again, look around at the parents observing you and your child and learn to place nice!

Tori 6 months ago

while I hear you on most of these, the PUBLIC transportation and airplane thing gets me. Yes, I get frustrated when a kid is kicking my seat. But I’ve been the parent that had the seat kicker, heck, I’ve even kicked seats. There is zero leg room. Not like I didn’t try to correct the situation. Not that I felt intitled, but my child does have just as much right to be on that airplane as you, or the adult that has to constantly use the restroom, yet insists on sitting by the window. Or the adult that snores the whole flights, or keeps their light on in the middle of a red eye. It’s a tin can, you need to understand that you are not any more intitled than that toddler. It’s called life, it’s not going to be all wine & roses. Deal with it.

Danielle Bennett 6 months ago

I’ve got two daughters, ages 7 and 5. We do things without our 7 yo all the time. Our 5 yo has pretty severe medical problems and is always either with one of us or very rarely with a previously trained nurse.

If someone invited me to a no kids event, I would ask them point blank if they meant her. Usually they don’t mind my daughter coming and the rare cases that her attendance would be a problem, we sit out. She’s quiet but her medical machines aren’t and she requires working out some special accommodations (like easy access to leaving should she be in crisis so we can manage it with minimal disruption).

I can say though, while I’ve never expected the accommodations, I’m definitely closer to the people in my life who have taken the time to make it possible for me to attend by including my daughter.

Marianne 6 months ago

Hmm… you know I mostly agree with your opinion articles, however, I feel like this article in particular felt more like a “Hey parents, let me tell you how you are/aren’t allowed to behave”. Yeah, okay, I get you have the “if you don’t like it, kiss my ass attitude” but come on. This article really makes you come off as an entitled dick. And the ironic part is its an article telling other people not to be entitled dicks!
Just my opinion of course. And even though I never would consider taking my 3 month old to a 10 p.m horror show, it IS the right of the parent to take them… that’s why they’re there. This is Murica, dontcha know. Anyway, I don’t mind saying maybe you’re head is getting a little big, bc this article is just kinda for no reason. I don’t want to fight people about it, and I will keep reading the posts, but just putting it out there.

Kerri Flynn Bennett 6 months ago

I think the Resteraunt depends on the child. If your kid can sit for 2hrs and eat and be good. Then it’s ok. If they can’t don’t. And always expect a child can have a bad day and be ready to leave. We screwed up on vacation and took my son to the fanciest place in town after a car trip because the hotel said it was the only place open. I think everyone (including me) was mortified when we walked in. I figured after a 6hr car ride there was no way he’d be ok. It was a great dinner- kiddo loved the food and was great. Everyone was surprised and happy. lol. Just have to bring stuff to occupy.

Nashay Robinson 6 months ago

Amen!

Daff 6 months ago

I have a proposal for you Lily, mother of two. Why don’t you let your children to babysitter until age 18 , so you can safely drink wine and eat chocolates, adoring your work and live your live undisturbed, traveling in quiet planes and celebrating relatives weddings alone?

Lindsey 6 months ago

Agree with all…except the restaurant! Most “family restaurants” serve shitty food, and I realize there are some places that are way too upscale for kids, I think it’s just a “use good judgement” opportunity.

Amanda Knight 6 months ago

And don’t take your kids to ANY store or business and have it in your head that it’s break time for you and somehow the resposibility of the employees to watch after your kids!! I am amazed at how often that happens.

Beau 6 months ago

Can we add Hot Tubs to this list!!! I dont understand how parents think its okay to bring their toddler in the hot tub as long as they’re sitting in their lap! And no, i dont care if your child is fully poddy trained, did it ever occur to them that an age restriction is not put in place so kids don’t pee in the hot tub? Higher amounts of chlorine and way more heat than their little bodies can effectively control means DANGEROUS!

Stacey Grim Zappacosta 6 months ago

Can you do another blog and replace “kid” with “dog”?

Stacey 6 months ago

Can your next blog post be similar to this but replace “kid” with “dog” . So tired of people bringing their damn dogs every where!

Alison Øgreid 6 months ago

This annoys me so much. I agree that no one is so super special but hey, I take issue with people being discouraged to take their kids places. Kids are around! They exist! If they offend you, stay home! My opinion.

Jo Ellen Allinder Knott 6 months ago

So true

bob 6 months ago

I wouldnt want to take my kids (4) with me to a wedding. I would be running around after them and thus not enjoying the wedding. I see many people dont read the request at the beginning of the comments – not to be a dick but to leave constructive remarks. Eish People have issues ek se!

Laura Eaton 6 months ago

Unfortunately the people that need this most probably wouldn’t take the time to read it.

Cristina Bahre 6 months ago

Love this article!
I have three boys and I make those boys understand that they better not act up or be loud, annoying kids…that they aren’t the only people in this planet. Especially on flights when they’re flying to see their dad. I always tell them, “now remember, there are other people on that plane with you who want to relax, don’t disrupt them and don’t act like bad kids because I don’t have bad kids.” When they return to me, passengers getting off the plane compliment me on how polite little gentlemen my boys were on the flight. …and alone, without me or their father. I know then, I’m raising them right :).
My boys aren’t entitled. And because of it, they’re considerate and well-mannered…except to each other sometimes lol.

Linda Haydell 6 months ago

Some children behave a lot better than adults who have conversations on their cell phone and everyone has to listen to it. They just don’t know how to speak quietly.

Danielle 6 months ago

Oh my! This post is ridiculous! So by number. 2 and 3 you are saying that all European parents are bad! Children are welcome everywhere and at all times. Perhaps that’s why European families seem so much more relaxed and happy. And as for childless weddings!!! Good luck with that one in a community that is family orientated!!!

Jackie Pressman 6 months ago

My husband and I went to see 50 shades of grey. A woman and her friend sat in front of us with a child that looked to be about 4 years old. This was completely inappropriate. Shows poor parenting skills if you bring a child to that movie.

Jessica Ameljanczyk 6 months ago

I’ve taken my baby out to a nice restaurant during dinner hour. I’m nursing, she doesn’t take a bottle and she slept the entire time in a sling. If she had colic, I could absolutely see why someone would have a beef… otherwise, button it and drink your wine. I’ve also taken my 2 year old there – he colored quietly, ate some chicken and said “thank you” when the waiter brought it out, which is more than I can say for my fellow diners. We kept the table immaculate and knew he could handle it because… and this is key… we’ve taken him out before. You have no more right to ask that I be relegated to restaurants with an adjacent playground or be a shut-in than I do to ask you to hire a personal chef if you don’t want to so much as lay eyes on children. We also went to a brewery *GASP* as a family for my husband’s birthday. I’m amazed we didn’t spontaneously ignite.

Eve Evelien 6 months ago

Too me moms are special….and I won’t judge them ever…not even for breaking rules…she probably has
a good reason…

Yarby Buckle 6 months ago

Here here. . Well said

Victoria Ellen Mari Johnson 6 months ago

Here…here. We love our children with all of our hearts and have a built in reliance to whatever our little ones can muster up….it’s called unconditional love. Others don’t have it or care to share our feelings of love and patience for our kids.

Amanda Allen Walls 6 months ago

This is my favorite post of all time.

Jem Dunn 6 months ago

Hahaha i get told off by family for being too strict

Erin Moran Matthews 6 months ago

I think this entire article can be boiled down to being considerate of those around you and don’t be a jerk.

Kiturak Anderswo 6 months ago

Um, I live in Europe, too, and adultism is a thing here just like it is in the US (from what I can tell), maybe barring the ridiculous child free wedding thing in some countries. Yeah, if a kid’s in the movie theater playing on an ipad or whatever without headphones? That’s not them being a kid that’s the problem, it’s the not using headphones, as it would be with an adult. Same for everything regarding not respecting smaller kids, etc. But if you think it’s ok to exclude kids from places and events just because they’re kids, and *you* don’t want to deal with seeing them or hearing them? Well, yeah, this actually is you thinking you’re special and having an exclusive right to places and being more important than kids in that regard. And yeah, this is my private opinion (that I however share with a lot of people here) and I really wish we (including European commenters here) could all accept there are different opinions on things in Europe as well as in the US.

Dani Graff 6 months ago

I live in Europe as well. In Germany but not far (5 minutes) from the Netherlands and about 30 from Belgium. In my experience, europeans expect kids to be “seen not heard”. Obviously not in all cases. But in the ones listed in the article, you better believe they expect you as a parent to have your shit together, your kids under control, or you shouldn’t be there.

Abagail A Avery 6 months ago

You know what is really annoying? Mom’s who can’t take a joke and get butt hurt about every little thing.. Also think that only their opinion on things are right and anyone who disagrees is a horrible person..No I don’t take my baby to the bar but have taken kids to local bar and grills that turn into only bar after a certain time and yes there are ppl there drinking but we leave at a appropriate time, but totally have to agree a baby would def not be the most annoying person at a bar… I also think the restaurant one is bs as well, I have taken my kids to fine dining places and they were great,did not bother anyone I actually got complimented on them Several times. Why should your children be excluded from a nice restaurant experience ? Just bc there kids they don’t have the right to eat at a nice place?

Laura Clark 6 months ago

Um, I live in Europe too and still think your attitude is disrespectful and self-centred.

“Desperate” to get out? Sure. I get that. There are TONS of child-friendly places you could take your kids where you can all have a wonderful time together. But so “desperate” to go to a fancy restaurant or a horror movie that you don’t care whose enjoyment you ruin including your own? Um, yeah, that’s just a truly weird and ridiculous statement.

Dani Graff 6 months ago

I served at the Cheesecake factory for two years. Could not stand the people who would get mad about having to leaving their strollers near the front. Do people not understand that if all those giant strollers are out on the floor we literally would not be able to serve some tables because we couldn’t get to them!

Dani Graff 6 months ago

No kids at my wedding. No one cared. Everyone came. My husband and I paid for it all ourselves. To have an extra 20-30 little people there would have put us over budget. But again. No one cared. It was a kid free fun night out for the parents.

Laura Clark 6 months ago

I couldn’t agree more with this article. Bringing kids to an adult-only wedding, despite the invite making it very clear, is completely disrespectful and, frankly, selfish. It’s THEIR decision who they invite, not yours. And being “offended” by your kids not being invited is pretty pathetic.

Likewise, it’s pretty misguided and inconsiderate to bring young kids to a fancy restaurant or the movies.

Mostly, I just find it bloody bizzare that you would WANT to??! If you want to eat with your kids take them to a lovely, kid-friendly place where they likely won’t be bored or fed up. Save the nice places for when you’re having a date night, sans kids. And why would you pay to see a movie when you can’t relax and enjoy it because your kids are bored and crying? Makes absolutely zero sense to me and I can’t help but wonder if the parents who do this aren’t actually doing it because they WANT to for theirs and their kids enjoyment, but simply because they are on a crusade to prove they CAN. In which case nobody wins.

Deb Felling 6 months ago

Love #5

Kiturak Anderswo 6 months ago

I did when she was a little under 1 year, she loved it! It was a small bar where a band was going to play – she was fascinated by the tuning of the instruments and made an instant friend of the violinist :) We left before bedtime, obviously. I’ll definitely do it again, as long as it’s so much fun for both of us. I have a friend who hasn’t gone out in the evenings for 4 years because of her kid. My kid is the same, she doesn’t accept anyone but me at this point. I won’t let myself be locked up for that long just because some people don’t like to have kids around in the evenings. This article really seems to bring out the worst in people.

Kiturak Anderswo 6 months ago

Yeah I’ll bring my kid wherever she likes to be as long as she’s not endangering anyone, she’s a human just like a grown up. I’ll watch out for her. Deal with it. Doesn’t mean she, or I, wouldn’t respect a toddler’s swim class, those are two entirely different pairs of shoes. If you make it a point to exclude her from a social event just ’cause she’s a kid, well chances are we’re not good friends in the first place, or won’t be much longer, and none of us will attend. You don’t want to see kids in restaurants? Easy: stay at home, hire a private cook to make you dinner. That’s expensive? Difficult to manage? You don’t think this is reasonable? Ah, I see.

Rebecca Numan 6 months ago

Lorrie did it not occur to you the child may have been visually impaired? Ive often had to sit giving my daughter a running commentary of events we have been to as theyve not provided a headset with an audio description, if ANYONE had said something to me I would have kicked off

Kendan Lovell 6 months ago

I think this article is misguided and judgy

Jessica Tattersall 6 months ago

This was written in a very rude way

Sara Bear 6 months ago

Commenting just to bookmark this gem of a thread.

Autumn Marshall 6 months ago

It’s a restaurant, you are totally ok in bringing your little one.

Autumn Marshall 6 months ago

Wow, how can y’all not realize that this reply was a joke and that most of your responses in many ways don’t relate to the original “joking” statement at all. Plus, no matter how you view someone’s statement being nasty and name calling is never going to encourage understanding. I wanted to read the replies to the funny comment and then it just turned ugly and sad.

Sara Bear 6 months ago

I’d set out a few card tables for them. Paper table cloth and crayons. String cheese and goldfish crackers. Juice boxes instead of champagne. If you’re going to insist on a kiddie table, I’ll give you a friggin kiddie table.

Sara Bear 6 months ago

Chipotle is so confusing on this topic. Kids menu? Check. High chairs? Check. Changing station in bathroom? NOPE!

Kirby Dufour 6 months ago

If your kids aren’t invited to the wedding, you DONT bring them! I said no kids at my ceremony and all of my friends and family obliged. Take it as a night out, an excuse to get out, not to be a total self absorbed bitch!

Kirby Dufour 6 months ago

As a parent you shouldn’t have to be told that there are certain adult only places you DO NOT take your kids to- I’m sure at one time or another YOU needed a break..how would you like it if someone else decided they needed to bring their screaming child in? Riiiiiight. I hate people that act like the rules just don’t apply to them. That goes with assholes parking, going through the checkout with a cart full of items in the 10 items or less line, entering the do not enter side of things- you get the idea. And I was totally the bride who put “adults only” on my wedding invitations. I didn’t spend thousands of dollars to listen to your kid scream through my vows, I’m so not ashamed to admit that either!

Terri Watson-Beaulieu 6 months ago

I see this all the time managing a hotel. People let their children do whatever they want at the expense of the other guests. They are then very upset when we are left to discipline their children.

Wilma Styles-Harris 6 months ago

This is very good..every point …we want to raise our children to be respectful adults…they will follow our example

Kate Slater 6 months ago

The movie theatre one bugs me soooo much! Why do people think it’s okay to make a movie suck for everyone around them simply because they wanted to go? Grr!!!

Rachel Jackson 6 months ago

These comments are comical

Rose 6 months ago

Wow. Just….wow. How rude, insulting and self centered can you be? Lovely.

Wendy Pickering Bedrosian 6 months ago

I was actually on a plane recently and a kid one seat in front of me and across the aisle actually watched movies on an iPad without headphones on a NIGHT FLIGHT! Luckily the child I had with me slept, but I sure couldn’t. I could not believe that no one asked them to put on headphones or turn it off. At one point, I sure had steam coming from my ears.

Jessie Read Bouclier 6 months ago

I went to a family Mexican restaurant and met a friend for happy hour. We were in the bar area, my, at the time, 7 month old was with me. We were there for an hour and I had 1 Margarita and chips and salsa. Yet the waiter /bartender looked at me as if I was a horrible person feeding my kid the booze. My kid was quieter and more well behaved than most other people in there.

Sarah Camp 6 months ago

The movie thing is obviously an issue, but it’s also one the theaters need to enforce. The fact that one of the only theater chains that enforce the “no small children unless we explicitly express otherwise” rule is the Alamo draft house is just sad. But i choose to drive an hour and a half to get to one sometimes because I know it WILL be enforced.

I went to watch 500 days of summer in the theater (a very adult romcom) and this woman brought her kid, who sat in the back of the theater playing on his Nintendo ds without headphones the whole time. It got to the point where another theater goer yelled at them, and we missed some really important dialogue at the end of the movie because it was SO loud. I just don’t get why you would take your child into a movie like that.

As for the weddings, I know someone having a no-kids wedding and she is making arrangements to have baby sitters available in the area to watch people’s kids so they don’t have to worry about it. When I got married there weren’t many kids I had to worry about on my small guest list- the youngest patrons were my cousins in their teens.

Rachel Pringle McMullen 6 months ago

Totally! HOWEVER! I was recently chastised in a VERY family restaurant for my child’s behavior. Back story… 1) it was Saturday morning. 2) it was a family restaurant ie they have a “balloon lady” dressed as a clown 3) she was most likely hungover 4) my child’s poor behaviu was playing peekaboo with my husband and the baby at the table next to us. So in conclusion what’s good for the goose is good for the gossling. If you want a no child atmosphere go where children aren’t allowed EVER!

Laurie Owens 6 months ago

Don’t even get me started on seat kickers. I dealt with one on a flight once and the mom got all indignant and called me a child hater when I very politely asked her to have him stop. Marc felt for me but he was also laughing a little because she was so incredibly over the top.

Heather Brandon 6 months ago

A friend of mine designated her wedding adults only. Even wrote on the RSVP card, “we have reserved x seats in your honor” one of her husband’s cousins crossed out the 2 and wrote in 9 and insisted on bringing their 7 children. Ridiculous! That’s an entire table, linen, chairs, centerpiece, table settings, etc. People think they are entitled, but it really is much more than an inconvenience.

Amanda 6 months ago

You are one of the parents I love. I had a flight, about 6 hours long..the couple across the aisle from us had two VERY young kids and a bun in the oven. The one woke up and started to fuss and mom and dad were on top of that… had her calm in about 5 minutes. Meantime the older shit head behind me kicked my chair for 15 minutes until I looked at his mom and told her to knock it off.

Be a responsible parent! When kids weren’t invited to my cousins wedding..I just didn’t go. Granted, all our family events had kids at them except her wedding. I admit I felt bad she didn’t want kids there, but it was HER day. So i stayed home and saved money on a wedding gift.

Tori 6 months ago

I’m about to fly with an almost 4 month old while my husband is TDY (Army). I am DREADING the nasty looks and attitudes. I am going to try my damnedest to keep him quiet.

julie 6 months ago

Bye then! Have fun being a special little snowflake somewhere else. If you can’t appreciate the fact that the article is about being considerate for others & following the rules, then please go far, far away & take your soon to be narcissistic, selfish children with you.

casey 6 months ago

My wedding was also a no kids wedding. My family was to large for us to be able to pay for everyones kids. Besides, as a parent its ok to have a night to yourself once in a while. One of my aunts thought

julie 6 months ago

I broke my arm once waiting tables because somebody let their toddler run around unsupervised…the kid got hurt as well (nothing too serious but the tray did bang his head pretty hard). I couldn’t grab the tray & after I hit the ground I honestly wasn’t even thinking of the child’s safety (all I could think of was the fact that my arm was bent in an odd way). The parents, who were sitting on the other side of the restaurant, had the audacity to yell at me for hurting their baby. Yes, I’m sorry the child got a tray dropped on him (he didn’t have any serious injuries) but it was the parents fault for not watching their own child. They actually threatened to call the police & have me arrested while I’m laying on the ground, holding my arm, crying in pain. My manager actually informed them that the police were already notified b/c they needed the statement for my workers comp claim. The police looked at them like they were stupid when they said they wanted me arrested.

Amy Garris Evans 6 months ago

#6…..I’ve threatened young ones that I’ll rip they’re leg off. 😉

thinkaboutit 6 months ago

Most people who have destination weddings do so so that guests like YOU won’t come. Everyone knows going into a destination wedding only their “nearest and dearest” will come.
Same with saying “adult only” that couple knows full well it means certain “guests” won’t be attending.

julie 6 months ago

Well she said if she was paying…not you. If somebody else is paying then they can set the rules.

missi 6 months ago

I have been a mother since 15 years old and never have I once brought my oldest son to an event he wasn’t welcome at. I can’t believe some of the people justifying bringing their child to an adult only event, marriage, party or otherwise. It’s not appropriate. They didn’t want children there for a reason. Yes, finding a sitter can be expensive and hard (especailly when every one you know will be at said event) but that is part of being a parent. You have to make sacrifices for your kids.

Geniva Jenkins 6 months ago

The problem is , is that the kids are in charge of the parents and the parent knows if they try to correct the spoiled child in some cases that the child will throw a fit

Krista 6 months ago

As a mom of a 2 yr old and a 12 yr old. I LOVE this! I still don’t even bring my 12 year old places. Not because he isn’t well behaved , but because good lord if I have to hear “I’m bored” over and over, imma smack him lol

julie 6 months ago

So amusement park rules are what, just guidelines? I’m sure you know better than the manufacturer of the rides…and if a host says “No Children” then it’s a rule & if you bring your kids, you’re breaking their rule. You are exactly the kind of person this article is talking about. Please get over yourself. You are not special, your children are not special…I’m glad the nice restaurants I go to don’t allow people like you to eat & the movie theaters I go to kick people out when their children are causing a disturbance. And for the record I am a parent, just not a rude inconsiderate one like you.

julie 6 months ago

At least you have the manners to decline instead of just bringing your children anyway…I agree that to me it seems odd to not allow children at a wedding, but it’s not my wedding so it’s not my choice. If I’m ever invited to a no kid wedding I will either find a sitter or not go (depending on how close I am with the bride/groom).

Adrienne Crouch 6 months ago

Like a million times!!

Krista 6 months ago

I absolutely agree with these ladies. As a wedding planner and a mom of 2 I am appalled that you would thikbk

Lauren Bates Wilson 6 months ago

Do people really take babies/kids in bars?? I must be living under a rock, I would never think of people doing that!

julie 6 months ago

The author never said don’t bring children on public transportation…she said don’t stop parenting just because you are on public transportation. I think her issue was more with the people who don’t care or notice that their children are misbehaving, not with those who realize it & attempt to rectify the situation (even if it is an unsuccessful attempt).

Anna Velto 6 months ago

This is perfect, love it

julie 6 months ago

It’s a safety hazard to let your children run around in a restaurant. I have seen children be seriously injured by hot drinks, plates of food, and trays dropped on them because parents (like you) thought it was ok to let them run around. As somebody who used to wait tables, while you never want a child to be injured, sometimes it can’t be helped. I bet you would be the first one complaining to the manager about your child being hurt because your child knocked over a server caring a tray full of food.

Kathryn B. Eil 6 months ago

As a nanny and beyond, I have seen this entirely too much.

Ashley Burnam 6 months ago

So much yes!!!

Rosie Pandie 6 months ago

I agree…especially #5…not a fan of children at weddings or showers. I would not be offended if someone didn’t want my daughter at her/his event. Anyway, this is a funny article!

Jen 6 months ago

I might have done the same, especially a few years ago when I didn’t make enough money to eat, let alone hire a babysitter. Some people don’t have an extra $40 lying around, even for as special of an event as a wedding.

Ida Mims 6 months ago

Play areas in the mall ! I hate when a 12 year old tween tramples over my toddler!!!

Michael Toledo 6 months ago

1000% positive my baby is never the most obnoxious person at the bar

Stephaney Aleksiejczyk 6 months ago

Love this!!!

julie 6 months ago

Totally agree! Although I have whined about wanting those spots recently (I’m due in 2 weeks & have spent the majority of my pregnancy on bed rest) lol…but I still would never park in one of those spots.

Jasmine Marrero-Pratt 6 months ago

In college I worked at a Jillian type place that was 21 plus after 6pm and families were welcome during the day. …parents would show up after that time with their kids and then bitch about the age restriction…the rules are there for a reason

SB 6 months ago

Oh lady, you’re just horrible! I bet you’re going to be “that mom” all the teachers hate, too! And we won’t be able to tell you to go to hell because we’d lose our job. But we’re thinking it. You can bet your pompous ass on that one!

Nikki Floyd 6 months ago

For real. No kids’ menu means it’s not a family restaurant. Go elsewhere or get a sitter.

Mip 6 months ago

I think it was nice of your husband to try to help. But as you said they are new parents, maybe they just didn’t know what to do. Some people have to figure it out on their own and while you’re husband made a suggestion, they don’t have to follow it. They were shushing and what not, maybe that’s all they knew how to do. I’m sure you and your husband were like that at some point, maybe not with your first baby, perhaps the first time you babysat. But as a man with children, for him to be frustrated by that.. doesn’t speak too well to his personality.

Becky Hutchinson Ridge 6 months ago

These are the same parents who feel like the rules at school don’t apply to their child!

Tarra Gillispie 6 months ago

I love my kids, but I’m all for adult only places. If you bring your kid and disrupt my night out, you’re instantly an asshole raising more assholes.

amanda 6 months ago

I really think this is more a common sense thing. Obey rules and mind your children. If you’re doing your best, hopefully those around you will be understanding as well

S. W. 6 months ago

Thank you! Exactly × infinity!!!

Sarah Restrepo 6 months ago

I hate when we go to toddler play areas and there are 7-8 year old kids (especially rough boys) playing there. Plus, their parents are nowhere to be seen; probably off shopping and not caring one iota that my 2 year old just got trampled.

Sarah Burgess 6 months ago

I can’t really imagine an adults only wedding since I believe weddings are about a joining of families and no one should be excluded…I realize not all families are that way. That being said…a bride or groom has every right to ask that you not bring children to their special day, just as I have every right to regretfully decline because I am not going to go to an event like that without my kids. I have seen a wedding and family reception followed by an adults only reception at a bar or something and that sounds like a great compromise to me…kids would probably be done for by then anyway

Becki Blaubach 6 months ago

The bar is a normal place to see small children and babies in Wisconsin. I refuse. No thank you. Besides, do really want people to see me have even a sip and drive my kids home?

Christina Bracken 6 months ago

I had to laugh at the lady who said it was rude not to invite her kids, who were both under 5, so she brought them anyway. Did she RSVP for them? Or did the bride and groom get saddled with the extra expense that comes from finding seats and food for people who didn’t say they were coming? We didn’t allow kids because there was alcohol and it was an evening reception, plain and simple.

Jennifer Capua 6 months ago

I can not like this enough-I was at a petting zoo type event and there was a douche parent arguing that his kid should sit in the front of the elephant-even though a clear large sign stated that you couldn’t do that, you had to go in order, etc. I felt so bad for the guy running it I finally said, “I didn’t realize royalty was present.” I hate entitled people. And keep your freaking baby out of the adult movie lol. So freaking dumb.

Emilee Mullen 6 months ago

Yes! As a teen I worked at Legoland and was berated almost daily by parents who didn’t understand why they couldn’t just “hold” their infant on a ride that was suspended 50 feet in the air…

Shatamara D. Davis 6 months ago

Soooo true!

Katie Armstead 6 months ago

AMEN lol.

R Kehler 7 months ago

All I can says is this – if that is how you honour other peoples’ requests, then you have no one to blame but yourself when (not IF….WHEN) your kids fail to honour yours; or anyone else’s. Call this a parenting fail and move on. Don’t agree? Then start saving for darlins’ defence attourney.

Ian jacobs 7 months ago

I think it’s rude that you chose to ignore the bride and groom’s wishes. Next time you might just find yourself without an invitation. But, I’m guessing that wouldn’t stop you from showing up with your brood of rugrats anyway.

Barbara 7 months ago

It’s not rude at all! If I want to drink, dance, and be merry with loud music at an event, I shouldn’t have to worry about whether in going to step on a small human or have to get a lecture from a pissed off mom because I’m saying things inappropriate for small ears.

Not everyone enjoys the company of children.

Kandi 7 months ago

Oh honey, it’s not your party, it’s not your rules, it’s not your money.

Leave your kids at home with a sitter or stay home with them. If you can’t see the problem with your actions, I hope your kids learn their manners elsewhere.

Christina Mauthe 7 months ago

Agree so much! Once you have a legitimate need for a handicapped spot, you WILL learn to respect them!

Christina Mauthe 7 months ago

Horribly rude and inconsiderate! When my husband and I were invited to a “no children” wedding, we at least asked about bringing our 9m/o because we were from out of state and everyone we knew would be at the wedding. If we hadn’t found someone we trusted, we would not have gone. (The bride did have us bring her later on. It turns out, there were only certain children they did not want at the wedding.)

BethC 7 months ago

Or maybe, just maybe, the determination was based upon the developmental level of the children themselves. Five year olds–Kindergarteners–have much better personal control and understanding of social cues/expectations than a 2 year old. Also, what makes you think NO ONE else had kids that age? DM knows the details for her side of her cousin’s family, but what about all of the couple’s friends, and the fiancee’s family?

BethC 7 months ago

What is unbelievably rude here is your decision to take your kids to the wedding anyway. If you were offended by their exclusion, then you could have opted not to go. I work with young children for a living and have two of my own. Even the best behaved children do not behave exactly as you want them to 100% of the time and you can’t always know what is going to set them off. What you may think is “fine” may not be fine to others (loud laughter, running and giggling, etc). That wedding was not YOUR day, so you had no right to violate the bride and groom’s wishes. I almost wish that your cousin would show up at your kid’s birthday party with a crew of loud, trashily-dressed adults, a bunch of booze, and start making out in the corner, just so you could see how it must have felt to them. No one said anything to you because they didn’t want to start a fight on a happy day, but don’t for a minute think that no one was upset by your selfish choice.

joeyjojo 7 months ago

“I’m sure they tried.”

What are you basing that on?

Jenn 7 months ago

So you’re one of those.

teacups 7 months ago

Your attitude is horrible and selfish and narcissistic and thoughtless and inconsiderate. I can safely guarantee you that just because no one stopped you at the door and refused to allow you to enter, or no nice person walked up to you and asked you to leave, did not mean they weren’t absolutely fuming. And you did a great rudeness to all the other people who DID shell out for a babysitter, in following the edict of the bridal couple. You were rude and thoughtless and I can promise you you created alot of resentment.

andrea 7 months ago

Recently I was on the opposite side of this situation. After a 3 hour drive with 2 more hours until the next rest area, I had to use the restroom VERY badly, Pulled into the first rest stop, got to the bathroom and was next on line. In comes a mother with a toddler. As a stall became open she tried to push around me, mumbling that the child was potty-training. In this case I could NOT wait any longer and did not allow her to push ahead. The mother complained about how “traumatic” it was going to be if the child wet itself. However, it seems to make more sense for toddler to wet itself than for an adult to have an “accident”. This would have meant driving several more hours with wet pants. I am sure toddlers have plenty of accidents and wouldn’t actually be “traumatized”. On the other hand, it would be very unpleasant for a grown adult.

Elisabeth 7 months ago

Well, that was horrid and classless of you. You’re the kind of parent other parent’s hate. What other rules do you intent to break, what other people do you intend to run over, because your speshul snowfaykes and teh spehsulest? I’m sure they’ll grow up to be fantastic people with that attitue.

Kat Akin 7 months ago

If your kids were really the only ones shut out of the wedding invatation, that was pretty much done on purpose. New flash….maybe not everyone thinks yours kids are as wonderful, special and well-behaved as you do.

LW 7 months ago

Classy. I see that parenting must not be your forte.

ilona 7 months ago

Guess what it’s not a party event for your kiddies, it’s the bride and grooms day, at the reception there will be drinking, it’s going to last late into the evening, the menu isn’t kid friendly and it’s going to cost the wedding couple extra to cater to your rudeness they will have to pay for the extra seating and food for your uninvited brood, if the invite says NO KIDS do not bring your kids, it’s only an entitled moron who brings their kids to an adults only planned event, go take your kids to Mc Donald’s and get them a happy meal, ponder on your own rudeness, bloated sense of self entitlement, the grow up and get some manners.

Vena 7 months ago

How inconsiderate, rude and disrespectful of you DM. Shame on you for not respecting someone’s wishes on their special day. Have you considered that perhaps while you love your children, you also have a biased opinion of them and see them through rose colored lenses? Perhaps to other people your children are obnoxious brats.

star66 7 months ago

My husband and I didn’t invite children, nor did we want extended family, nieces and nephews for many reasons at our wedding. Many family members lived out of state we thought the expense for some of the younger family members with kids might be overwhelming. As with many others, we also had a budget. My husbands brother has two kids, one has 5 children, 12-4. That means 11 people just there alone, that was a huge expense for us and we figured it would be best for us and them not to invite the adults kids and their children. Unfortunately, his brother asked where their children’s families invitations were. We didn’t want start a war so we caved, they are family. The fight came when they expected all 11 to stay at our home for the wedding, I thought this was a lot to ask of a bride right before her wedding and my husband sided with me, although he didn’t really agree. He didn’t quite understand what mess I would have to clean up the day after my wedding that 11 people would make in our home, on top of the huge expense it was costing us to have them there, I thought they could have pooled their funds and found a cheap hotel for the night and we certainly didn’t expect a gift since they had an expense coming. These were 5 rambunctious kids and a not so neat mom as I recalled when she only had 3. His brother was an asshole, but they did come begrudgingly. By that time I could have cared less, except for my husband. The bad part is I have no feelings for his family now. I don’t want to deal with their entitlement attitude, which you have to think about when you are behaving this way. I wouldn’t care if I never saw them again.

Courtney 8 months ago

I did a half and half kind of thing at my wedding. The ceremony we planned was a little on the long side, and kids generally hate trying to sit still for these kinds of things. We paid for two baby sitters during the ceremony, and put any kids in another room at the venue. We also let people know that we expected the reception to start at X time, if they felt more comfortable just showing up for the reception rather than having their kids off with the sitters we hired (ceremony & reception in different parts of the same venue).

Our reception was a buffet with some fancy stuff and some kid-friendly foods. I also had a table off to the side that had crayons and coloring books. What I didn’t plan on were the disposable cameras. We put them on the dining tables thinking the adult guests would use them, but the kids nabbed the cameras almost immediately (there were about 8-10 of them and all within about a 4-year age range.) It kept them busy and entertained for the bulk of the reception, but I wish I had realized that only little kids had the cameras before I paid to have them developed. 10 cameras worth of random pictures at odd angles with tiny fingers in the shot.

M 8 months ago

Yes, exactly! I take my children to the restaurants I like to eat at, I bring things for them to play with, and I teach them how to behave in restaurants.

M 8 months ago

I agree with the overall message of the article, but disagree on a few points…Every child is different, and there are some environments where some children will be well-behaved and some won’t.

– While I never brought my tiny baby to a horror movie, I did bring my tiny babies to other late night movies, all of which they slept through. Typically I would walk there with them in the sling, they would fall asleep on the way, and I would walk back home and get them right into bed, and they would have no idea we even went to a movie! When they got too old to sleep through the movie, like around 4 months, I stopped doing it. With a tiny baby you get out of the house when you can, and this worked for us and our children, and they never cried and ruined the movie for anyone else, etc. If they had cried, I would have gotten right up and left.

– I firmly disagree that some restaurants are completely inappropriate for children, or that children should only go to “family restaurants.” Children need to learn to have manners, and being in environments where people use good manners is part of how they learn this. I teach my children that going to a fancy restaurant is a privilege they are able to have because they are well-behaved. And because this is how we treat it, they are well behaved in fancy restaurants!

As far as events where kids are not allowed…one time I went out of my way to find child care for my baby so I could attend an adults-only baby shower. I was working full time, and I gave up a morning I could have spent with my daughter to attend the event because I wanted to support the parents to be. However, when i got there I discovered that two other parents had ignored the no kids rule and were there with their babies, all about the same age as my daughter. I was so upset! After that I decided that I wouldn’t go to any adults-only events unless I actually *wanted to be there without my kids.* I did go to one wedding recently where I chose not to bring my kids because I didn’t think it would be a very family-with-children-oriented wedding, and it was a good choice. I personally tend to enjoy weddings more with a family atmosphere, with gangs of kids running around…but that is my preference, not the preference of every bride and groom.

melmom3boys 8 months ago

Not surprisingly, the ones who are all upset and offended at this article have completely proved the authors point.

melmom3boys 8 months ago

Then the answer to that is: You just don’t go.

Rhoan 8 months ago

Since its clearly all about you, ill pose this in a way even a self-important moron like you can understand (but I might be expecting too much). What if it was your wedding? Your special day, that day you probably looked forward to since you were a child yourself. You go through painstaking planning with the hope for a bright and happy future. You want to be happy with the love of your life and you want to celebrate that joyous day with family and friends. Obviously, there are a lot of decisions that need to be made. And while you are thinking of what you and your spouce want, youre also trying to make your guests happy. You want this to be a memorable event- a wonderful memory. But you can’t make everybody happy, so you compromise on minimum age. And then you arrive, on this long awaited day- only to find that your cousin has completely disregarded your request and brought their children under the age range.

Did you even ever imagine how she must have felt? If I were her, I’d be hurt. She chose to invite you to share in this special event, she wanted you with her on this once in a lifetime event, and what did you do? Entirely ignore her wishes. What a slap in the face that must have been to your poor cousin. You might as well have walked right up onto the alter and yelled ‘FUCK YOU!’ right in her face. But she took it with grace. I think most people would have asked you to go. I know I would have. But even faced with such an insulting action- committed by her family, no less- she let you have your way. I’m sure she figured if she asked you to leave like she asked you to leave your kids at home that you would ruin her special day further, so she smiled on and welcomed you.

You should be ashamed of yourself. It seems that your children at that point were probably more mature than you are now. And you not only have no guilt, but have the gall to bitch to people on the internet about how your cousin’s wedding wasn’t about you? Wow. Your parents FAILED raising you, and you’ll probably fail raising your kids. By example, you already have. You’d better hope they were too young to know what was happening or remember, if you care at all to raise them to be good people. But honestly, I can’t imagine that you care about anyone besides yourself.

I wish I could apologize to yoyr cousin for you, since you are clearly too deluded to do it yourself. I also hope, for your children’s sake, that they have at least one good role model in their lives, lest they turn out like you.

Althea 8 months ago

Wow! Did you bring any other unwanted guests? Maybe a couple of the bride’s old boyfriends? After all, the wedding was all about you and it was your responsibilty to decide who SHOULD have been invited and to make sure they were in attendance.

holly 8 months ago

Uh, kids do not MAKE a family. There are plenty of couples that choose to be childfree that are still a family. And infertile people? Are they never to be part of a family? How ridiculous…just bc you define families by children doesn’t mean everyone does.

bored_01 8 months ago

One disclaimer I would add is that sometimes children who seem to be out of control may actually have developmental disabilities and be experiencing a meltdown or having sensory issues rather than simply tantruming. A little bit of understanding for a parent with what appears to be an out of control child can really make that parents day. (Mom of an autistic boy.)

Carol 8 months ago

When my kids were little (we have 3) I remember the looks as we boarded the plane. The few who looked sympathetic and understanding had my undying gratitude. Well, when my youngest was 3, he had a hard time sitting up and kept pushing on the seat in front of him with his feet. I kept redirecting, but he was persistent. The man sitting in that seat stood up and said loudly to his wife “I win the prize – I get to sit in front of the little man!” Horrified, I made another attempt to redirect my little one. The man noticed this and hastened to assure me that it wasn’t a problem. He pointed to a sulky teen sitting across the aisle from him “that one used to kick the seat in front of him, so we’re paying the price for that.” I now try to reassure passengers with little ones that I completely understand the difficulties of flying with a little one. I actually drugged my 2 year old with benadryl for one long flight.

Brandi 9 months ago

I do agree that no kid weddings are completely inconsiderate of the people y are inviting to.. Especially if you got a destination wedding on top of that yeah don’t expect anyone to come then sorry

Brandi 9 months ago

I think adult only weddings are stupid too but I just wouldn’t have went

Sharon 9 months ago

Sorry but the author is DEAD WRONG on the airplane/transportation part. Kids have their own minds too and no matter how hard you try, they will not be perfect on a long plane ride and guess what, everyone needs to go on some sort of public transportation whether you want to or not. This is part of the essay is completely nonsense and sorry to say it, very asshole-ish. It is not easy traveling with small kids and very stressful on the parents. The last thing I need is glaring looks at me or any judgement. How can anyone ever be prepared for everything that happens in public…you must not know what it’s like to be a parent then.

Jodi 9 months ago

Can’t come up with any words that cover it better than, “I totally agree!”

Peppa 9 months ago

I agree with all of these except the restaurant one. My child is well behaved and I bring activities. If by chance she is upset or disruptive (which is extremely rare) then we leave. Attending ‘family’ restaurants with bunches of overactive, noisy, disruptive children and having menu options of chips and nuggets for the kids and a chicken parmy for the adults is not our cup of tea. We will dine at proper restaurants with our well behaved child. If you don’t like children don’t go out!

t 9 months ago

AS- kuddos to your mom for not giving in to the stupid principal. I, too, am a fellow teacher and have had more than one administrator respond the same way when dealing with difficult parents. Makes me so angry because they are only perpetuating the horrific entitlement behavior not to mention the fact that they are NOT BACKING THEIR STAFF!! So infuriating! And in my experience, it is SO true…the kids that show disdegard often are a direct reflection of their parents.

Melynee Fontenot Finch 9 months ago

Great idea!!!

Jasmine Cody 9 months ago

We have a movie theater here that is over 18 after 8pm. Me and my husband love it, because if we pay good money to get a sitter we don’t want to see anyone else’s kids either.

Monica April 9 months ago

I think they forgot the sports venue too!!!

Anne 9 months ago

I don’t think anyone on this website is upset children exist.

Movies: Is it appropriate to bring a newborn/toddler/child to a rated R movie? No. It’s rated R for a reason. Now obviously the theater staff should be refusing to sell tickets but who knows what their policy is. It’s common sense not to take a young child to see a graphic or violent movie.

My Mom took me to see some doomsday movie when I was about 4 or 5, I shouldn’t have been brought to it. I started crying and was very disruptive because what I was seeing on the screen terrified me. My Mom tried to ignore it but eventually we were asked to leave. She was embarrassed, I was miserable, the people who’d paid to see this movie definitely didn’t go into it expecting to deal with a freaking out child. Her actions in that case were not appropriate.

It’s different to some extent for child-friendly or family films, but I went to see The Avengers and the woman behind me sat down with two newborns. Not only was I smacked in the head by a diaper bag, the theater was full, there was no where else for me to sit to avoid her and I spent the entire run time of the movie listening to her talking to the babies and them crying. I paid to see the movie and did not even get to enjoy it.

As for restaurants, there are family/casual dining restaurants, and there are a lot of them. Yes, seeing children at those is expected. But sometimes you go to dinner at a place where most people are wearing suits and everything is a minimum of $40, the tables are glass and there are real candles in the centerpiece, the atmosphere is sophisticated, classy, elegant and grown-up. Bringing your rowdy children there is rude. Just because it doesn’t say “no children” on the front door, use common sense. That’s not child-friendly.

Thank goodness for restaurants with the “family” side and the “grown up” lounge side, it gives people a choice of if they want to deal with other people’s children. Sometimes even parents want a nice evening out without their kids, it’s kind of spoiled if then they have to deal with the disruption of someone else’s bundle of joy.

And as for public transportation, yes kids will travel on the bus, but the parents who let their children run around on it, climb on seats, and disrupt other travelers. Years ago I was on the bus with some grocery bags, held on my lap, and this mother and her child sat beside me, the kid stuck his hand into one of my bags! I said “Excuse me” to the Mother hoping to direct her focus to what was going on, she saw the situation, gave me this careless smile and said “Isn’t he cute?”
NO! Not cute! Invasive with dirty little fingers grabbing at my groceries!

Another situation was me listening to my Mp3 player on the bus when a gentleman tapped my shoulder to inform me that his daughter liked my hair, I thanked him but really after working a full day just wanted to zone out on the ride home… again he tapped my shoulder, commenting on how she liked my shirt or something, I said thanks again and then watched as he directed his child to sit beside me, informing me that she thought I was very pretty. The rest of the bus ride was spent with this kid yammering in my ear!

Should kids be allowed on public transit? Of course. But parents need to manage them. I have no duty to talk to your kid or tolerate them invading my space. Should I be forced into the position of being rude in order to get the point across that it’s not acceptable?

Maria Stanley 9 months ago

#6. My husband is a Pilot and he sees this type of thing ALL the time. and the parents who let their kids run in the aisle. Flight attendants HATE parents like that. But they will smile and be nice, cause it is their jobs. but they call you every name in the book when you are gone.

Hannah 9 months ago

Obviously you can’t always control kids, but I think the point is if you’re going on a long flight with your child you should bring something (books, toys, etc) to keep them entertained rather than letting them sit there bored, getting fussy with nothing to do. You know the kids who rarely kick seats? The ones with other things to do. We’re all aware that sometimes children cry or fuss or act out, it’s not reasonable to think they never will, but I think the point is that there are preventative measures you can take to make it less likely.

Also the parents who are sitting next to their child, their child is kicking the seat and the parent doesn’t apologize to the person sitting in the kicked seat or tell their child to stop. The child is crying and the parent does nothing to try and soothe them, the child is screaming and the parent does nothing to attempt to manage the situation.

Sometimes kids freak out, yes. But as a parent it is your job to address and deal with the situation, maybe you’d let them scream it out at home but that’s not a polite or socially acceptable method in a public place like a plane. It’s distracting and stressful for the other passengers. It could rile up other children on the aircraft and even people who have anxiety about flying. Essentially, doing nothing is disrespectful.

Hannah 9 months ago

I used to work in retail and one of the worst experiences I’ve had with entitlement was parents who thought their children should be allowed to climb display models, undress mannequins, hide in racks and dismantle jewelry displays. I cringe at the memory.

I once had to explain to one livid mother after asking her not to let her child (approximately 5 years old) take apart a mannequin that just because their arms are removable it doesn’t mean we want people to just remove them. “Well you should have brought in a different kind for the store then” was the snarky reply I got.

As a store rule we weren’t allowed to intervene with a customer’s child, we couldn’t ask them not to trash our displays or to get out of the racks or to stop throwing things on the floor. We could watch and observe, that was it. It drove me nuts how often I was taken to task by parents for following their “precious angel who was just expressing themselves”, or for treating the parent like a criminal for watching the activities of their offspring. I was even accused once of racial profiling!

I had to politely point out that I had to stay close by in case I was needed for anything…then discreetly clean up the mess their kid had made.

Maybe even worse was the parents allowing toddlers to roam the store alone while they were in the change rooms. Twice kids took off out of the store, we weren’t allowed to grab them or otherwise detain them, just politely suggest their parent might not want them to leave or ask them to wait or go tell the parent…who would tear a strip off of us for not preventing the child from leaving.

Sorry folks, I know everyone needs a good pair of jeans or a nice dress for your fancy dinner but retail workers aren’t your babysitters and your kids don’t have the right to destroy everything just because you might be spending $10 on a scarf or because you don’t feel like keeping a handle on them.

Anne 9 months ago

Alright so I’ve got a few points regarding “No Kids” weddings:

1. At the risk of beating a dead horse I think that the majority of people, even if they don’t like excluding their children, can agree that it’s the couple getting married who has the right to set the rules. If you don’t agree with the request you don’t attend, you don’t bring your children to an event where they might not be welcome. You have two choices, find someone to watch them, or do not attend.

2. Finding a sitter may be difficult, or expensive for you, I think most of us can offer some sympathy about that, but to the person who mentioned not even attending their Grandmother’s birthday because it was “No Kids”, it’s great that your children are well behaved, I’m sure that is a point of pride for you and honestly I’m glad you had the sense to respect the wishes of those hosting the events in question, still, it seems a shame that on point of principal you would choose to miss family events. But that’s just my opinion.

Some examples of weddings I’ve been to and their child-policies.
I’ve had two cousins get married and allowed children to attend, however in both cases the only child in attendance was my little sister (my Mom had her later in life so she was 4 & 8 respectively at those times), while she didn’t act out she was bored out of her mind. Being included was fantastic but there was nothing set up for her, the singular attending child. Everyone else were of the age when they didn’t have kids yet or their children were grown. I think there might have been a newborn at the first one but that’s hardly a playmate.

My sister and I were in the wedding party the first time around and I think she enjoyed it on the day but the rest of the day meant little to her, she didn’t like the food (not a “kid friendly” menu and she’s quite picky), our cousin (the bride) didn’t pay attention to her, our parents were busy with the bride’s parents, and I was also hanging around the older bridal party as I was 17. Now my parents could have assigned me to be her companion but is that any more fair to me when I have people my own age (other cousins) to hang out with? In retrospect it likely would have been best to arrange a sitter for the reception which ran late and by the end of it she was miserable. She doesn’t remember the event anyway.

For the second wedding again my sister was the only kid, luckily the food was “comfort/home-styled”, it was smaller and all prepared by our aunt, also she was better at entertaining herself. Still, she’s shy and it wasn’t until many of the stranger guests started to leave that she lit up and began having a good time… she was bored and whining during the ceremony, trying to get attention from the bridal party during the wedding and took over the dance floor by the end of the night. She remembers this, and had a good time, but I don’t think her life would be ruined by any stretch had she not attended.

This passed summer a third cousin was married and she had a “no kids” policy. The venue was a stunning and expensive country club, the space was relatively small and wine was flowing, at least one third of the guests got drunk. The bride was 23, the groom 25, the guests were all of a similar age (myself included) and the entire concept was like a big rowdy party. That’s what they wanted. This wasn’t really a family event, most of the older guests and relatives left shortly after the dinner leaving the younger ones to party it up until about 2AM, the atmosphere became more of a nightclub than a wedding reception. Again, that is what they wanted. Was that the right place to bring children? No. Only 1 or 2 guests attending even had children (not including my little sister who was left off the guest list and also our parents were working), what was there for them to do?

A friend of mine got married similarly at a very fancy high-end restaurant, again her wedding was “No kids”, the food not only pricey but also “foodie”, strange mixes of ingredients that even I turned my nose at. The menu was not what children would want to eat, the venue and theme were all adult-centered.

I have to admit I don’t understand people who say children at weddings are more enjoyable. I don’t have kids, though I have friends who do, and relatives who do, and when I get married it will be child-friendly because there are enough parents in my social circle that I wouldn’t object to them bringing their families. That being said, knowing this and planning for it, the wedding will have a selection of child-friendly food & activities to keep them occupied so they aren’t running around creating a disaster on my special day.

But if your child or children are the only ones attending, who is having them there a joy for? The focus shouldn’t be how cute your kid is dressed up at a wedding, if they’re a relative of the bride or groom the boundaries should be set that the children aren’t going to be getting special attention on that day. They should be of an age to be quiet during the ceremony and polite at the reception. I’ve been to weddings were unruly children trashed centerpieces, peed on the floor, ripped the bride’s dress and just created general chaos. As much as you might cherish your child, weddings are stressful enough without a rogue element like an unpredictable little one potentially going nuts.

For those of you who insist your kids should have the right to attend, close your eyes and imagine all the havoc a child could create in any given situation, no matter how well-mannered you like to think they are. Just picture the worst of worst case scenarios. Reasonable or not in the mind of most brides, everything is as worst case scenario level and for some doing the damage control to accommodate a handful of children, many of which likely are too young to even remember the event is just not worth it.

Kat Wontor Wienskowski 9 months ago

I am thankful for Scary Mommy. You keep me sane and above all, keep me smiling.

Michelle Rogers 9 months ago

Methinks this was written by someone without kids… How about sucking it up and being tolerant, or better yet, helping an unhappy child and their exhausted parent? Geez. Unkind and judgemental behavior by adults will teach kids how to be just that… Also, I have observed that the most outspoken parenting experts are those who don’t have any.

CS 9 months ago

Families does not always mean kids. A couple committed to eachother can be a damn family. A couple with pets can be a damn family.

A group of friends living together may call themselves family. Get off your pronatalism / trad family nonsense.

More and more people are in families without kids, get over it.

tessa 9 months ago

Then go to a restaurant that doesn’t allow kids, or pack up the food to eat at home or in a hotel room. The “not being special” thing goes both ways.

tessa 9 months ago

Movies/bars/restaurants – if the venue allows children, then they allow children. If you spend $200 on a sitter and date night, and you go to a place that allows children, don’t be surprised that they’re there. Tough titties, you’re not special so don’t expect the venue to kick out kids just for you. For the record, I would never bring my kid to bar or movie theater. It just doesn’t sound like a good time to me.

Adult only events & height requirements -your children are not welcome here. Your kids are not special, it’s against the rules.

Mass transportation – again, kids are allowed here so it’s pretty silly to be upset that they exist.

tessa 9 months ago

Wait, you were upset that there were dancing children on a dance floor at Disney world?

Shorty 9 months ago

At a local orchard I frequent there are goats, pigs and chickens. There are plenty of signs all over that say ‘do not feed the animals by hand. they will bite’. I overheard a parent telling their child that they didn’t care what the sign said, they were going to feed the animals anyway. The next week I read in the local paper that the police were called to this farm b/c an animal bit a child. Hey special people, the rules are there for a reason and they apply to you too!

Your mom 9 months ago

You think you have it all figured out. Especially airline travel. Fuck this. I have twins and can’t control another human being.

Abby Hebron Lewis 9 months ago

This problem isn’t just left to people with children and their children’s behavior. It is a larger problem of society and it stems from the generations of people who were taught that they were special and could do no wrong. Given a trophy just for showing up. And it’s only going to get worse with each generation.

Nadia D’Amico 9 months ago

Number 6 is my favourite! The number of parents that believe everyone else is responsible to feed, entertain and provide diapers for their child while traveling on a plane has me dumbfounded every time I witness it. Thinking ahead and anticipating your child’s needs is what makes you their parent. Provisions, people!!!
Just being the idiot babysitter won’t suffice. Even better, the parents that believe changing their child’s diaper on a tray table is acceptable behaviour and can’t understand how this could be unhygienic. Baby poop is still baby poop…..

Jan 9 months ago

You don’t know that your children (or DM’s children) were the only ones excluded. Did you see the entire guest list? Do you know all of the other side of the family? Don’t automatically assume the worst and make it all about you. Planning a wedding takes a long time, a lot of work, and many tough decisions. Any family event would most likely not purposely exclude certain people, knowing the repercussions would last for many years. Suck it up, Buttercup, the world doesn’t revolve around you!

ppony 9 months ago

They knew their child better than your husband did. You nor he can diagnose at a glance. No one can. They didn’t like the baby’s crying more than anyone else…I’m sure they tried.

ppony 9 months ago

I can relate!! My youngest is ASD. We do a ton of pre-planning and prepping. We pay more to get early seating or certain seats to buffer others. You just never can product what may set them off. You just do your best to distract and calm them when it does. So far, we’ve done well. Only had one instance of crying for about 3 minutes until I calmed him down.

ppony 9 months ago

Not everyone can, Chill.

ppony 9 months ago

This would have ben me as well. We don’t all have access to babysitters and also, some of us have special needs kids we can’t leave w/ just anyone. Like I ever would anyway.

ppony 9 months ago

I don’t like adults only weddings. So I don’t go where my family as it is isn’t welcome. I’m glad I wasn’t so exclusive when I got married 8 years before I and my first child. I find it rude as well.

Jan 9 months ago

You sound trashy too!

sandnsons 9 months ago

The problems is there are so many special needs that are invisible. I also have a child with autism. Most people have no idea and mistakenly interpret his behavior as a discipline issue. For example, my child has a fascination with doors and will either open and close them repeatedly or insist that propped opened doors need to be closed. I’ve been chastised by people who are bothered by him messing with doors in situations where he isn’t hurting anyone or anything and they don’t think I’m doing enough about it. I get that it can be annoying. He does it at home ALL THE TIME. But the alternative is him esculating into a kicking, screaming meltdown. I try not take take him places where he will be a problem but sometimes it is unavoidable. I wish.more people would recognize that sometimes patents are being low key in an attempt to keep a lid in creating an even bigger.issue.

Danielle 9 months ago

i agree with all except the nice restaurant. I think it Is ok to bring my 3 yr old and 14 month old girls if we go super early like 5pm and if they behave. We prefer the food in non chain nice restaurants, so we keep them entertained and we tip well over 20%. And if they are being difficult I leave with them while my husband asks for the food to be wrapped up and pays the bill. Honestly we are the only ones there at this hour and they learn to appreciate new food and how to act appropriately.

Cait 9 months ago

Lol I guess I’m one of these parents. I took my three month old to Carrie to a showing I knew would be empty during his nap time with ear muffs. He never woke up, but we were sat in a row that would’ve made it easy to leave without disrupting anyone if I had to. It was the last time my husband and I were going to see our friends before he and they deployed, so it was a risk I was willing to take. Definitely haven’t taken my son to a movie besides that one. I understand the list though.

Mona Wheeler 9 months ago

If this offends you, read it carefully again cause it’s for you.

Cheree Cooper 9 months ago

I have a little girl who is almost 4. Until recently, we did not go to restaurants or take her shopping or anything like that. She is high maintenance and difficult in public situations. We would try every once in a while before about 6 months ago, but most of the time she would become one of those unruly little brats that everyone despises. However, I would correct her 2-3 times then remove her from the store/ restaurant if she did not cooperate. Please, in all of your hating on parents for the way their children act, remember that children do have to learn how to act in public and the only way to teach them is for them to be in public. Be mindful that the parent trying to correct the misbehaving child is likely embarrassed and doesn’t want to be part of the situation any more than you do. So long as the setting is appropriate (obviously not a bar) and the parent is trying, be patient. Some children are more independent than others, don’t make us feel bad for trying to figure out the best course of action to teach our children.

Gigi Woolbert Hart 9 months ago

LOVE this!!!!

SEM 9 months ago

The author is not saying not to bring your kids in public. The author is saying there are certain places where a kid should not be. Like at bar or late night horror movie. If I was at a late night horror movie and someone brought their kid and they kid was being disruptive like a kid would be during something like that I would not be happy. And my wedding I asked no kids be there and I had my reasons and that was also my right. Just because I did that did not mean that I dont like kids I just felt my wedding was not appropriate place for them.

SEM 9 months ago

People are supposed to get drunk at the reception asshat! And people are not drunk at the ceremony which is where it would be a big concern that a kid misbehaves. And a reception with loud music and drunk adults is not somewhere a kid should be! Also maybe some brides and grooms cannot justify spending $100 a plate on a bunch of kids either. People have bars and alcohol at weddings so people can get drunk during the reception.so Uncle Drunky isnt going to be a problem is he?

Sarah 9 months ago

Got another asshole on our hands!

Sarah 9 months ago

While I thought it was nice that you chose to respect the bride and groom by not bringing your kid to the wedding I think it was kind of rude to say that you were angry that they wanted you find a babysitter just to attend their special day. Did it ever occur to you that brides and grooms shell out anywhere from $50-$100 a plate and probably extra for alcohol so you can attend their special day? Brides and grooms shell an expense as well just so people will come and join them for their special day and I hardly think them expecting you to get a babysitter so you can attend is hardly a bad thing. Just a thought.

Sarah 9 months ago

LOL Jen awesome comment. LOVE IT Douche canoe. And then the asshole cut too. Love it.

Sarah 9 months ago

Well then you are a self entitled bitch plain and simple. And had it been my wedding I would’ve kicked your ass out. I had the same requests for my wedding that I paid for. If someone wants to request no children at their wedding then that’s their business. Is it your wedding? Are you paying for it? No didn’t think so. So get over yourself. Just because you laid on your back and got a man mustard injection and popped out a couple of kids doesn’t make you some kind of god that everyone has to bend over backwards and worship.

Christine Olivia Vantol 9 months ago

I agree with all of these and I’ve got 3 kiddos;)

Amanda Allen Walls 9 months ago

If the restaurant you are planning on dining at requires men to wear a jacket, your kids don’t need to eat there. If it’s a place that you wouldn’t dream of going in sneakers and sweat pants, your kids probably shouldn’t be there.

Patti Neubauer 9 months ago

I like kids or I would not have the job I do but this is so right. Could not have said it better!

Melynee Fontenot Finch 9 months ago

I have a 5 and 7 year old… I HATE when I get a babysitter so we can a nice dinner… And there are little kids clambering and carrying on. I agree… Some places are just NOT for kids.

Davina Millane 9 months ago

Here here!!!!

Jane Knowles 9 months ago

What a darling baby boy!

Dawn 9 months ago

Oh! So you’re one of the people this article is about :-)

Erin Hilligas 9 months ago

#4 happens to me ALL the time. I work on a zipline with an age/weight requirement and everyday I have parents asking us to waive the rules. Seriously!? You want to put your 6 year old who is 10 lbs under the weight limit 160 ft in the air with equipment that’s way to large for them? Sure, what could go wrong.

Marie Nemec 9 months ago

Don’t agree with last one planes trains etc you can’t control your child’s every action you can try people need to get over it! There are kids in this world and babies you can’t handle it pay for a private plane or pay for all the seats to sit alone! People need to stop complaining about babies and kids on airplanes we
Can’t be stuck at home people! We want to visit family iand friends ! We can do our best to help them understand but can’t make promises kids will be kids. Be sympathetic especially if you have or had babies people who don’t have children keep comments to yourself you may think you know what it’s like to be a parent but you don’t! Before I had children I didn’t know so I kept my mouth shut!

E 9 months ago

The funny thing about someone else’s wedding, is that YOU don’t get to call the shots. Just because no one died and you weren’t asked to leave, doesn’t mean it still wasn’t RUDE of you as a GUEST to disregard the wishes of the bride and groom. And yes, I’m sure as they were planning their big day they stopped and said, “let’s set the age limit for children at 5 years old so our cousin can’t bring her kids.” Because they couldn’t possibly have anything else to worry about while planning a wedding right? Please don’t flatter yourself with that assumption. I’m sure they felt that any children under the age of 5 might have a meltdown (as children under that age tend to do quite loudly) and disrupt the event, even if it wasn’t an “adult” atmosphere, who wants to hear a screaming child at their own wedding? Children 5 years old and older tend to be quieter (most of the time) with their tantrums, and easier to get under control…and are more self sufficient.

You are obviously…one of “those” parents that thinks the sun shines out of her precious children’s tushies.

Michelle Frittitta Adams 9 months ago

The age requirement is a drag sometimes. Why must I pay full price for a kid that turned 12y.o. two months ago? Beware, no amount of coaching will get a kid to blurt out an age that is one second less than what they really are.

Beatrice Leavens Brown 9 months ago

I see that attitude all the time. And not only children, their parents are worse. It seems too many people think they are the centre of the universe and passing that attitude on to their children.

Anne Ostrom 9 months ago

Mine are special but that doesn’t negate the rules. It’s common respect.

shelster 9 months ago

My husband and I went to a concert. Not just any concert, but a POD, 3 DOORS DOWN AND DAUGHTRY concert. It was sooo loud my ears were hurting. I look over my shoulder and I see a husband and wife with, I KID YOU NOT a 3 month old baby. Wtf? Shortly after I saw them being escorted out by security.

Jess 9 months ago

You’re an asshole.

carmen 9 months ago

Let me start with I am the mother of 3 children. While I agree on a few of your points there are some where I think your hmm mm not right to put it nicely. Everyone has the right to go to a nice restaurant with kids or without. It all comes down to parenting. Teach your children to be respectful. Don’t allow rude behavior. As for leaving them with a babysitter some people don’t trust strangers and don’t have family around and should be able to go out for a nice dinner. Now if they know their baby or older child will not behave then yes they should order to go and stay home with their children.

Elizabeth York 9 months ago

The others yes.

Elizabeth York 9 months ago

#6. There are kids with disorders.

Trina Ortiz 9 months ago

I agree, to a degree. Actual ruled should be followed. Other things are on a case by case basis. I could never have taken my infant son to the movies, but I took my youngest girl all the time as an infant. If she woke up, she was discreetly nursed back to sleep. And we are talking about watching The Avengers and Prometheus.

Penny Galan Bitner 9 months ago

Lindsey Diana Bennight, um…do you even know what a red-eye is? I’m not going to take a quick little nap before a red-eye flight just in case someone else’s kid decides to lose their shit for the entire 7 hour overnight flight. It was the entire flight, I kid you not. And, yeah, it’s not something that’s ever happened on any other flight I’ve ever been on, but I totally should have assumed such a thing would have happened because it’s a totally normal occurance, right?

I kept thinking, “wow! Poor parents. I bet she’ll tire herself out eventually” because I’ve never known a kid to lose it for so long without finally passing out. I was totally wrong because she literally never let up on the scream-fest. She was on the other side of the aisle and like 5 rows back and I could still hear the screams as if they were right behind me even though I had earphones (though, gee, my bad, I didn’t spend $100 on noise-cancelling headphones. I guess it’s all my fault).

And the plane was full and I wasn’t even in the aisle seat, but, yeah, you’re totally right, I should have gotten up and helped some other mom out with her screaming kid even though no one is supposed to be walking around the plane unless they absolutely have to. Also, when I’m on vacation with JUST MY HUSBAND AND NO CHILDREN I still totally fly with a Mary Poppins bag full of toys to calm down kids but I don’t share them because I’m selfish! Haha! I’m diabolical.

(if I had anything that could have soothed that super distressed child, I would have offered it)

By the way, I never said my bag o tricks works every time all the time, but I’m pretty lucky since my kids have never really freaked out on an airplane flight even though we’ve never had screen devices to entertain them (though, yeah, I would have killed to have one, just in case). Typically, after the flight is over, people tell me that my kids were very well behaved and they appreciated it.

Again, I think it’s because I overprepare and because I’m lucky my kids have never lost control on a plane. But, yeah, I’m no freaking expert and I’ve never professed to be.

Also, I didn’t say anything to the parents on that plane because EVERYONE ELSE WAS! That is pretty awful and I did feel really bad for them even though I was really annoyed that their kid never stopped screaming.

By the way, you sound really sensitive about this subject. Sorry if you’ve suffered through a bad flight with your kids. I feel for you. That said, no one really wants to be confined in a small space with a kid or adult who can’t be relatively quiet for the majority of the flight. As parents and part of the human race it’s up to us to do everything within our power to keep our kids quiet and happy during an airplane flight. If we’ve done everything possible and the kid still won’t chill out, and it happens every time you fly with your child, maybe you shouldn’t fly with your kid until he/she/they are older. Sounds like you’re torturing/traumatizing them.

Jacalyn Shirley 9 months ago

Your right to swing your arm ends where my nose begins. Goes for kids, too.

Alison Hamling 9 months ago

Amanda – you’re TOTALLY missing the point. I give a shit what you want to expose your kids to. But you have NO RIGHT to spoil other’s enjoyment of something if your kids can’t sit still through a 2 hour movie they don’t understand.

Alexandra Smith 9 months ago

i liked this list. whew we made it lol. I was about to get defensive on the bar one…because we have brought our little one with us a few times to a brewery in the early evening and enjoyed our beers and toddler on the patio….then i saw the remark at the end saying i am not talking about those ones lol

Holli Cooper Ohngren 9 months ago

I am always careful about where I take my kids and I have always taught them respect. I don’t take my kids to movies unless it is specifically a kid movie and when I go out I get a sitter, going grocery shopping and paying a sitter? No. Tantrums happen. I see it all the time and do it freak out at that mom who is obviously embarrassed and frazzled? No. I feel for her cause i have been there. Do i shoot her ugly looks and tell her to make her kid shut up? No i see if i can help her out in any way. Yes ive done this a few times. If there was more tolerance in this world it would be a lot better place. That being said I say what I did because I have read a lot of comments of women spewing profanities when talking about kids. Totally inappropriate. And a lot of this is just rude talk.

Jessica Strandell 9 months ago

I will do what I please with my child because I gave birth to her. And if theaters didn’t want children in certain movie at certain times they wouldn’t allow it there would be a curfew seriously it’s stupid for you to even argue that fact I didn’t say it was right of them to do it it said they can if they want to they also paid for the movie and Untill there’s a curfew fucking deal I’ve experienced plenty of other children in theaters if your watching the movie and minding your own fucking business it verry easy to ignore

Rachelle Fisher Mercado 9 months ago

Agree to all

Lynnette 9 months ago

If you don’t like the rule, or feel that your kids were improperly excluded, then don’t go. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean you don’t abide by someone’s wishes. Your attitude is why the author wrote this. Get over yourself.

Nancy Welker Fortais 9 months ago

Leah- so true! Children live what they learn- and believe me, they are paying attention. I love a cold beer once in a while- maybe even two- and that’s it. Never drive. The kids are watching and never do I want them to think drinking to excess is OK. Will they try to? I’m sure they will- but again, there’s a time and a place for everything. Drinking and getting drunk in front of your kids is not the time.

Pamela 9 months ago

I agree with you about the listings. Years ago before I had my son, I was a snowboard instructor. When my friends & I would ride in the half pipe, jerk parents would take their little beginner skiers through the middle of the pipe! I used to yell at them, I wasn’t trying to be rude, but I was doing it for everyone’s safety. The resort had safety signs saying not for beginners. But you know the moment when someone isn’t paying attention & that kid got hit, their jerky parents would rant & rave about it happening. They just felt entitled to take their kid(s) through there just like anywhere else on the property.
When my son is old enough & experienced enough, I will teach to ride the half pipe & proper courtesy.

Melissa Dant 9 months ago

Your comment is a perfect example of the point the author was trying to illustrate. It’s hard for me to believe that anyone would think they are so special that they would disregard the request of a bride on her wedding day. Shame on you and I feel sorry for kids who will grow up with the same sense of entitlement. I bet you’re the one that yells at people in nice restaurants for giving you a dirty look because your precious darlings are ruining their $100 dinner. Get over yourself and learn some common courtesy.

Brandi Smith 9 months ago

Who gets to determine their maturity level, and what they can handle? Strangers judging? Or the family they spend every day with.

Entitlement to judge is shining through in the arguments for this post.

There are in fact no rules about the movie theatre, which is why those parents “get away” with that. Parental discretion.

The wedding scenario – between the host & guests.

Unless you are a part of all aspects of the decision, the judgement needs to stop.

And no, these parents aren’t obliged to think about how you feel or live in the woods. That is your sense of right/wrong and entitlement.

I thank goodness that I cannot stand going to the theatre so I don’t have to hear the petty arguments, from parents.

Nancy Welker Fortais 9 months ago

I might add- if you truly love and care for your children you do not put them in situations that are loud, scary, or inappropriate- situations that would cause them to misbehave.

Kyra Kissam 9 months ago

It is my opinion that it isn’t a competition. Parents and non parents should be gracious and teach their kids to be as well. Nor do I think those who have less money should be expected to stay home. It is important for kids to go out with their parents and see how to act socially. Of course, if your kid is screaming they should be removed from the public space until they can calm down and perhaps not enough parents and non parents act with the respect they should towards other people.

Nanci Durfee Munnelly 9 months ago

That there is not the child’s nor the parent’s fault for blocked ears on a plane. Although, Ned
Still time, try giving the child a lollipop or something to suck on – that really helps and one lollipop never caused any damage!

Krissy Phillips 9 months ago

These comments are ridiculous! It’s super simple parents who are offended and defending their children: get a babysitter! If you can’t afford one, then you have no business going out. I’m a mother of two small kids, one with adhd. I know better than to torture those around me. I’ve even left grocery stores. Even when the kids are well behaved, taking them to a 10pm movie is uncharted territory and who knows what could happen. Stay home or swap sitting with a friend!

Sarah Hogan 9 months ago

Well, my point was not much in regards to the post as some of the comments I read. Of course leave your kids home and don’t take them with you to the bar LOL…that’s plain common sense, not “good parenting”. Problem is yes, the culture in America revolves around good behavior in public, manners, behaving yourself. But I’m sorry, not everyone is cut out for that. And yes, kids are a-holes, and no parents can NOT control them all the time, and shouldn’t be expected to. The amount of stress I had taking my (not yet diagnosed with ADD) young son out in to public just to pay for gas was so unnerving, most days I hid at home. When you have a little person, they are as unpredictable as the wind. Sure USUALLY they behave, sometimes they don’t. Just because you may catch a kid on a bad day gives no one the right to sneer at the parents or talk badly about them. You don’t know the whole story, don’t know what’s going on…have some patience and understanding is all I ask of others. Kids will be kids, they cry, are obnoxious, misbehave – but they are learning and growing and every day brings a new challenge and a new change. But they are wonderful life giving adventures and I wouldn’t trade my worst day with them for my best day without them! Saddest part – I have seen worse behavior from adults than children….I expect an adult to act like an adult, and a child to act like a child.

Jessica Zoeller-Grissom 9 months ago

This author seemed to nicely point out that at 10pm the general public does want want to listen to your kid cry. And that when the line says wait here everyone needs to wait here. This is how kids learn that the red light applies to them not just others.

Tara N. B. Kruger 9 months ago

How about developmentally disabled adults who have the same social and mental capacity of a 4-10year old? Should we exclude them too? Celebrate life people, we can all play together with courtesy and respect, the very young and very old.

Tara Richardson 9 months ago

My kids are 9 & 7. Both have ADHD (their dad has it heavily on his side of his family and my daughter got it from her spontaneously mutated genetic disease). Now, having said that…I live for nights out and away. Every parent needs to non-kid fun time. So…#1 I don’t even want to take my kids when I get time off b/c I don’t want to hear them and they are my OWN kids, therefore, I assume no one else wants to hear them. #2 10pm for kids is way too late to stay up (unless they are older kids and those kids can be quiet). #3 I have respect for others and common sense which dictates my decision and behavior which means I would do whatever I could to not ruin someone else’s free night out b/c I assume they are also trying to have a nice free night w/out kids. #4 I like to have drinks. I am an adult and can have them if I want. However, many places that serve drinks are just not appropriate for children (they do not need to witness people who cannot handle their liquor). I realize there are restaurants that serve and also have children’s menus but the looks and comments that people give you if you have even just one drink with children present would make you think you just murdered someone (I don’t need that judgement so I avoid that scene). Bottom line, have respect for your fellow man-kind. I realize not everyone can afford a baby sitter so perhaps you have a friend that you can swap free babysitting with (you do it one night for them and vice versa). Have a Happy Thanksgiving and I hope I have not ticked anyone off:)

Teresa Howick Wilson 9 months ago

Steph this article wasn’t about you then. And yes, maybe snarky, and no, not funny. I don’t think her intention was humour. But read these comments. There are parents here who do take young kids to inappropriate movies, to a fancy restaurant

Tara N. B. Kruger 9 months ago

Agreed!

Stephanie De Bear 9 months ago

I agree with all of these. But try to have tolerance just the same. You never know why there is a child in an inappropriate place. When my son was 2 and behaved like a typical 2 year old, we were invited to a restaurant for a family member’s birthday and were assured that it was okay for him. Turns out, it was a super expensive white gloved French restaurant completely inappropriate for a two year old. We had no choice but to be there after driving an hour. I kept him contained and entertained for as long as I could and then to avoid him screaming, I let him go, following him around the restaurant. It was terrible. And if it wasn’t 10 degrees out and on a busy highway, we would’ve gone outside. So sometimes the situation is out of your control.

Kristen Donohue 9 months ago

I agree with the article 100%, but this comment is just mean.

Teresa Howick Wilson 9 months ago

Or put low or earphones.

Calliope Du Hymnia Gerber 9 months ago

My son is a really good boy, he LOVES going out & is almost always quiet & happy. There was one time while on vacation far away from home with family, we were dining out at a semi fancy restaurant. That’s where the whole family wanted to go and I had to just go along. Well that one time my son acted out, he would not just be happy, he was tired from the trip and I had NOWHERE to take him. Not even the bathroom because that place was so packed with ppl & it was raining outside.I was so stressed out and I could feel jerks judging me for it but all I could do was try to calm him. My point is things happen and we shouldn’t judge people for it.

Leah Lupa-Johnston 9 months ago

Gotta disagree with the one about cocktails. Why would take your kids out with you to have drinks at any time of day? If you need to take a cab home, you’re not being a good role-model for your children & if there’s no one who is sober enough to drive then there is no one responsible enough to be taking care of the kids. Don’t get me wrong, I can get loaded with the best of them! But even with just a few drinks, kids don’t need to see grown ups acting foolish. They will grow up to think that is normal behavior & it shouldn’t be.

Stephanie De Bear 9 months ago

I think she meant 9 year olds playing like 9 year olds on the designated 3 year old section. Or teenagers roughhousing on the treehouse with a 9 year old trying to get to the slide. Not a tall 3 year old who plays like a 3 year old. Jesus. Get a grip.

Valerie M Cody 9 months ago

You can take your kids anywhere you want. That’s your right. Just make sure they don’t bother anyone else who’s trying to have a good time.

Katy 9 months ago

Your cousin has more restraint then I would have had… It was HER wedding. Not yours.

Joy Bektas 9 months ago

See but this is where the judgement comes in. Aside from the wedding one. I wouldn’t take my kid to a bar but if a parent does why should I care? They aren’t taking my kid. As far other places have some compassion. Some kids need to learn how to act and the parent is trying to teach them. And if they aren’t fine. Why can’t people ignore? I think the author is just as self entitled as the people she is talking about.

BelCon 9 months ago

I agree that weddings without kids suck. All of my family’s events always include tons of kids of all ages and they always make the events so much more enjoyable, so to me it is weird to have a “no kids” wedding. Plus, when it’s a family event it’s harder to find a sitter since the people I would normally ask are all going to the wedding too.

That being said…whatever the marrying couple wants, they get. It is THEIR day. It doesn’t matter if it’s no kids, or some ridiculous theme they ask you all dress up as, or if they decide to get married wearing nothing but saran wrap. Their wedding, their rules. Period. It is RUDE to tell them that what they want is ridiculous, and even MORE RUDE to blatantly disregard their wishes.

Andrew Prior 9 months ago

This isn’t exclusive to parenting. Folks like this were probably self-centered a$$hats when they were childless.

Jeremy Kalina 9 months ago

Honestly, I don’t get upset when children are getting antsy or fussy. They’re kids. But what I can’t stand are the parents who ignore it. You brought them into the setting. It’s your responsibility to teach them social convention. Don’t just silently eat and pretend your child is invisible when he or she is running around throwing a tantrum and taking things off of someone’s table.

Jennifer Gibbs 9 months ago

#2 my husband grew up in bars his entire childhood.
while some of his fondest memories are there (he tended to be better fed and there were video games) it’s a mark of shame when he talks about it.

Jeremy Kalina 9 months ago

If I say no kids at my wedding, I would appreciate at least a call to see if it’s okay. Don’t just bring them. I get introducing kids into social settings, but this is my event which is private. Please respect my wishes.

Stefanie Stommel Davis 9 months ago

Amen! See these parents every day and just have to SMH.

Bethanie Vi 9 months ago

True. When my daughter decides that she’s not going to go by the rules, that she won’t wear her hair up, that she wants to wear boots with her uniform, that she won’t do her homework, that she won’t abide by many rules set out by school or Brownies or music or drama lessons. I calmly ask her what makes her so different that she can flout the rules where others can’t.
I tell her that she may be my princess, but when she leaves our house, goes to school or other activities, she is then playing with children who are the princes and princesses of other parents, and they are all the same.

Jenna Slye 9 months ago

People that get pissed that there’s only limited space for their huge SUV stroller inside (or at the end of the table) at a restaurant. Leave it in the car. Can you really not carry your child from the car to the table!?!

Laura Walker Lyons 9 months ago

1000 times yes

Rachael Westphal 9 months ago

So many are being accused of being “kid haters”. This has nothing to do with hating kids. Many parents do not teach their children common curtesy or that there is a time and a place for everything. As an educator I have seen the repercussions of never telling a child that their behavior is wrong or inappropriate or disruptive. Maybe we wouldn’t have such a problem with bullying if parents would teach their children that their actions affect other people. Common sense isn’t a flower that grows in everyone’s garden.

Amanda Lee Soltys 9 months ago

#3 makes.me.crazy. Love this post !!

Janette Jergins Horton 9 months ago

As a teacher and a mom, I love kids. I try to be compassionate and helpful when parents are working to quiet /calm their child; however, sitting on a train for three hours recently with 7 kids nearly killed me. 2 babies-both were screeching-one parent kept working to get the baby to stop the other didn’t. The other three kids were allowed to get up/down and when they got their balloon animals, they popped them cried and made noise with the balloons…all during the ride which was an historical tour with a guide speaking. We couldn’t hear anything and it pretty much ruined the trip. My kids are older (much) and were able to sit, but not being able to hear anything made them get restless as well. Parents have to teach their kids not to disturb. No one is living in a bubble.

Leah Capitini 9 months ago

The only reason I’m upset by crying babies on airplanes is because they get to say/scream everything I’m feeling, but can’t, because I’m supposed to be quiet and mature about how awful the whole traveling experience is. Fun fact though, something about the pressurized cabin allows kids to scream for upwards of 4 hours straight without even stopping to breathe. I envy that kind of stamina.

Brian D Willetts 9 months ago

Right on!

Amrea Greene 9 months ago

So true!!

Kimberly Wade Marsh 9 months ago

In Washington state, it’s actually against the law to bring minors into a bar.

Aimee 9 months ago

You know the cord is cut at birth, right? You and your children aren’t physically attached to one another. It’s not a personal attack when an event is no-kids. And guess what? It’s OKAY to go somewhere WITHOUT them on occasion, healthy even. I have four children; 21, 18, 3, and 2. I don’t get the opportunity to get out alone, so when it comes, I TAKE it. It’s replenishing to the mind, soul, and body. My children are my life, but I deserve time and space to be more than just Mommy and so do you.

AS 9 months ago

My mom’s a teacher as well, and this is one of her biggest issues! I’m glad someone else can relate! Last year she was literally harrased by a mom who thought her daughter deserved to pass a test that she had clearly failed. It got to the point that the principal called my mom into the office to try to get her to change the grade so she wouldn’t have to deal with this obnoxiou mom, my mom chose to have a meeting with the parent instead where she explained how the way things work in her class (and the way they worked in my home) is that you if you want the best (grade, etc.) you have to work the hardest. I can say she instilled that in us, learning to work my butt off to get what I want has gotten me far. Props to awesome teachers like you everywhere!

TJ 9 months ago

I can tell by your grammar that you’re just as much of an asshole. Grow up.

Jennie Reis 9 months ago

A bar?? Really???

Natalie Voytek 9 months ago

Ha ha first commenter on that page is the exact type of parent shes talking about.

Marcia Lopez 9 months ago

If I’m out with my husband on a date night that means it’s a night I don’t want to deal with my children. Guess what…I don’t want to deal with yours either!

Meghan Glasgow Van Lier 9 months ago

#5. I think I will put this article in the envelope with my next invitation. Unbelievably rude.

Bill 9 months ago

Oh God, I hate that!! I will purposely look away when that happens and show absolutely no acknowledgment of their little “angel”. So we’re all supposed to stand around in amazement because your kid claps and laughs when you make a funny noise? So irritating.

Julie Brown 9 months ago

Absolutely!!!!

Liz 9 months ago

Maybe they specifically didn’t want DMs kids there. Especially if they’re as rude as their mother.

Alice Barber 9 months ago

I love this article!! So true.

Kyra Kissam 9 months ago

I actually agree with most of these and don’t do them (I bring my well behaved toddler to nicer restaurants) but I am surprised at the tone of this post and worse the comments. First of all, it is assuming privilege and entitlement that everyone has the resources for babysitters and that those who have kids should only eat at family friendly restaurants. We are a society, one that increasingly is anti parent and anti kid. Like others on here, even fully prepared delays happen and those people who have been supportive have made my day and trip so much better. Have some compassion and understanding that there are people in different social classes and cultures in our country. Smile and lend a hand to a parent on a difficult situation instead of glaring. That said, adult only is and dangerous situations should be off limits but every day places, have some empathy or sympathy
If you haven’t been on their shoes yourself.

Liz 9 months ago

Amen! Plus anyways, maybe it WAS only her kids they didn’t want there. Maybe they’re just as misbehaved as their mother.

Melissa Kree 9 months ago

YES to #5!! No matter how many times you say “adult only reception”, people will try to bring their kids. Some ask first, some don’t. So tacky

Vicki Achinger 9 months ago

See the movie one all the time they actually push them in in strollers!! And the amusement park one , is the worst, they put stuff in their shoes to make their kids tall enough. Dont risk your childs life for a little fun, and arguing with the ride host?? Makes you look like an idiot that doesnt deserve children. You dont let your child ride in a car without a carseat why are you willing to risk them somewhere else??

Randi Chesney 9 months ago

The last time my hubby was on a plane he had quite the experience..
The kid next to him was leaning right over him into his lap to look out the window (which he paid for a window seat) until he felt like he had to close the shade so then he tried fiddling on his phone and then the kid tried grabbing and touching it! The mom sat in the isle seat and looked straight ahead and every where else pretending she didn’t see anything
He was furious by the time his flight was over

Kristen Ryder 9 months ago

“The thing is, popping out a child doesn’t make them, or you, any more special than anyone else, and acting as though the sun shines out of that squishy little tushie? That just makes you a jerk.”

Hahaha :) this made me lol.

Jen 9 months ago

You just completely illustrated the author’s point!

Jocelyn Elaine Ollarvia 9 months ago

Wow judgmental people. I wouldn’t take my young child to a horror movie either but I would suggest she needs parenting classes just because she does things differently than me.

Linita Santos 9 months ago

Amanda, while I respect your right to raise your children in the way that you want, I feel that you should also be respectful of others. Working at a school, I have noticed, that children that are exposed to violent movies and video games at an early age, tend to act more aggressive and play innaproapriately. You can let your kids watch whatever you want. But, there are many more parents that do not want their children exposed to such things. When your child comes to school and wants to play “Chuckie” on the playground, it introduces horror and violence to children that may not be ready for that. If your kids like to be scared, read to them. There are age appropriate ghost stories.

Loreto Vasquez 9 months ago

This depends on the country, in Spain people take kids to bars all the time. Some bars are located next to playgrounds so people can have a beer and a tapa and keep an eye on them in England people take kids to pubs. The US is different. These are US rules for parents.

Mindy Aloes 9 months ago

Yes! The point is that it is the hosts party, so it’s their choice. Stop beating a dead horse, April. It doesn’t matter WHY the hosts ask for a child free event. The point is, if someone invites you to an event and says it is adults only, you either go without kids or stay home. Their reasoning doesn’t matter.

Leslie Downs 9 months ago

I’ve read the article and I have read the comments and I am shaking my head. The article is true and those things mentioned in it should be common sense and already be done out of respect. No I am not a child hater, I love my children and I love and truly enjoy others as well. I always think about how the presence of my children could affect others. When they were babies/ toddlers we didn’t go to movies or special events that were mainly adult based. There was always things that we could do that was more kid friendly. If there were times I wanted to see a movie or go to a concert I arranged a sitter. No one should have to accommodate my children. That is not their place. As for how this article is not funny, of course it isn’t. None of the stuff mentioned is funny. The author does not have to be funny all of the time. It is OK for her to be upset about it and its OK for her to write about it.

Jennifer Lynn Etzkorn 9 months ago

Thanks for this :-) couldn’t have put it better…

Amber Clark 9 months ago

One of our small local parks sometimes has teenagers hanging out all over the little kids equipment; little kids trying to play and they’re just sitting there texting when there’s benches surrounding the park and 2 picnic tables under a pavilion, all empty. Drives me nuts. They get up and move when they see me walking toward them. I’ve never actually had to say anything to them, but I’d be polite yet firm if it came to that.

Tara Frost 9 months ago

A bar??

Polly Folmnsbee 9 months ago

Totally agree with this article!! I have 3 beautiful children but that doesnt mean I think I can take them anwhere I want or not follow rules or hosts requests. What would that be teaching my children? They will be ok even if they dont get to attend some events or go to certain restaurants. There are plenty of kid friendly things they get to do all the time.

Ashe Biles 9 months ago

Our son is our everything, but as parents who are busy and with my husband working long hours, adult time is needed too for the sake of keeping our marriage happy and healthy. A night out without our little peanut works great for us! As for going out to eat, we would never take our 11 month old to a fancy Resturant, people pay good money for a specific environment and I don’t want to ruin that. If we are at a family Resturant, we always have a plan…baby gets fussy, I leave with the baby and my hubby packs up the food and pays the bill. We travel and thank goodness our son has been great with that, but I go above and beyond to make sure he is calm and relaxed. I have been working with kids for over 10 years and each year the kids behavior gets worse and worse. Parents are raising spoiled, entitled, stubborn children. I am making an effort to not be that parent. I loved this list and the comments are priceless.

Hgnyc 9 months ago

Geesh, people need to get over the plane thing. Sometimes it is necessary to fly and babies cry.

Terri Lindsay 9 months ago

Love this article, so true, could not agree more

Emma Logan 9 months ago

How are people allowed to the cinema to see an 18 rated film with a small child? Surely they shouldn’t even be sold a ticket! As much as I do get irritated by people who feel that rules don’t apply to them or their kids, some of these are not rules but personal preference. It’s up to parents who take their children out to ensure they behave!

Emma Logan 9 months ago

I can’t see why you wouldn’t have kids at a wedding. ‘Its my day’ – well technically it’s our day (assuming you aren’t marrying yourself) and I guess I feel a wedding is about making that commitment in front of God, friends and family. In the world we live in I think that’s important for children to see. Children are a source of joy and weddings are all about that! Many people must have negative experiences because of parents who just aren’t taking control of their children!
It’s interesting to see people’s differing views of what a wedding represents!

Sandy Reddish 9 months ago

That’s why their children don’t have respect for other adults. Their parents have taught them that any “rules” do not have to be followed.

Jessica Schumacher Kara 9 months ago

The entitlement mentality is rampant in the US. And it is in both sides of this debate. Eg “I got a babysitter for my kids, so I’m entitled to a quiet dinner without other people’s kids present, even though the restaurant allows kids.”

Sara Sprague 9 months ago

Sorry I meant to add the height restriction and not observing the couple’s request of an adult only wedding, however inconvenient it may be.

Chantelle Roy Kimball 9 months ago

Movie – optional; plane not so much – big difference.
You need to find a friend with a teenage daughter – then you have a movie date of appropriate age and a babysitter – WIN! 😉

Sara Sprague 9 months ago

Nope nope nope nope nope. The swimming rules one is the only one that shows an obnoxious entitlement. The rest are just things that some people think are okay and some people don’t, depending on your worldview of how children should be incorporated into society.

Heather Stevens 9 months ago

We included kids on our invitations and the only ones that came to the reception were the flower girl and page boy (husband’s niece and nephew). It was the guests’ choice to leave their kids at home.

Abby Blanch 9 months ago

This is exactly what i was thinking as i read this judgemental article. I took my (then) 8 week old in to a movie. I stood (not sat) right at the back, near the exit, with her in a sling ready to bolt should be make a peep and disturb the ‘special’ non parents watching the film. She slept through the entire thing. It was Hannah. It was about 7pm. There was loud shooting and punching etc. pretty sure she didn’t realise.
Here in Europe there is a wonderful inclusive attitude towards drinking establishments and families. They don’t become these seedy grotty underworld you wouldn’t like to be in after dark, let alone take your children to. I have (and will continue to) visit these establishments, so long as my child(ren) continue to sleep contently in their buggy, or go earlier and leave before they start to get bored/tired.
I took my (then) 5 week old to the Ledbury. It was our wedding anniversary. It was 7pm. She slept the entire time, except for once when she woke to feed and i shamefully hid in the toilet to quietly breastfeed her. Since then we have dined anywhere and everywhere (oyster bars, four seasons… Last week i took my 5 month old to lunch at shangri la in the Shard building. It was my birthday) and at all hours with not one, but 2 children

Jill Lazzaro Gueller 9 months ago

Ugh. We had an adults only reception for several reasons, one being that we knew which people would want to bring their (chronically poorly behaved and ill-supervised) children. Those ended up being the guests who asked about the adults-only stipulation and if they could be the exception.

Besides me not wanting them there on “my” day, and not wanting to spend $50/head to feed them, I also made the call to exclude kids based on the other guests’ experience. I knew some would end up babysitting them in the absence of their parents doing so, and that they’d be just plain irritating to others. The parents ended up coming sans kids and made a point of approaching me there to tell me that they had an awesome time! Like the author here says, my party, my choice :)

Sarah Koebler 9 months ago

Which you can do in restaurants but is far more likely to be in excess in a bar.

Leah Retone Suders 9 months ago

Number 5. So rude.

Sarah Koebler 9 months ago

As for kids in bars, to a point, it’s okay. Most are not bad. But drinking and driving with your kids, even just a little, is the most irresponsible thing.

Sarah Koebler 9 months ago

Actually, newborns, babies, infants are kind of the WORST THING EVER in a theater to see any movie. They startle at loud sounds, and cry. I am certainly not a dick, I simply have more respect for the people who pay good money to see a movie in the theater than to chance ruining the experience with my crying infant. The dick would be the family who’s baby cried off and on through the whole movie because they didn’t want to waste their money. I never said I hated anyone. It is simply inappropriate. I have a 12yr old, and a 7 month old. Sometimes, as a new parent, you gotta give shit up, or get a babysitter. Not too hard. There are people on the planet besides myself, and that will always be part of my consideration. “Is what I am doing respectful of others?” “Is there a way to have the best of both worlds?” Having my children witness that thought process will create respectful human beings. Not “I will do whatever the fuck I want because I am me, and screw everyone else!”

Samantha Willis 9 months ago

I’m 8 months pregnant…my hubby and I waited 5 years into marriage to have kids. During that time, we observed/experienced *so many* parents like the ones described in this article. It helped us realize that we’d never want to be that way or teach our kids to have an entitled, my way, I deserve to do whatever I want attitude. Hosting an adult – only party/wedding doesn’t make a person a child-hater, either. And to say, If my kids can’t go then neither will I? Ridiculous. When do you ever get to socialize with your adult peers, then? You can love your kids to death…and also leave them at home, when appropriate.

Steph Powers 9 months ago

I would never take them to a dim lit restaurant for couples if that’s what you’re asking? Most normal people wouldn’t. I’m saying the tone of this wasn’t funny at all.

Alyssa King 9 months ago

You seem to agree with the writer if you choose to take your children to family friendly establishments. She wasn’t talking about the grocery store.

Alyssa King 9 months ago

To all the “entitled” parents: The problem is, all of the “choices” outlined in the article invariably affect other people in what are supposed to be entertaining situations. That’s the point. You can raise your child far away in the woods however you would like, but the moment you decide to bring them back to civilization, you are obligated to consider the impact your child will have on others in particular situations, some of those described in this article. Your choices will have consequences on other people and should be carefully considered before involving a child in a situation they don’t yet have the maturity for.

Lindsey Diana Bennight 9 months ago

I totally feel bad because I brought my nephew with me to one because I had never been in one of these stores before and didn’t realize it was more than just costumes on a wall like the Walmart Halloween section! Poor kid he got so scared I had to leave! :( I still feel bad!

Alyssa King 9 months ago

The problem is, all of the “choices” outlined in the article invariably affect other people in what are supposed to be entertaining situations. That’s the point. You can raise your child far away in the woods however you would like, but the moment you decided to bring them back to civilization, you are obligated to consider the impact your child will have on others in particular situations, some of those described in this article. Your choices will have consequences on other people and should be carefully considered before involving a child in a situation they don’t yet have the maturity for.

Lindsey Diana Bennight 9 months ago

Seriously? And what age should I tell my son that he’s allowed to make conversation with people? 18 maybe? Ok so I’ll be sure to let him know that he can’t talk to anyone until he’s an adult for fear he may annoy someone who doesn’t like children!

Razia Zaman 9 months ago

Touché! My sentiments exactly.

Razia Zaman 9 months ago

On a side note – I’ve travelled with my son a great deal on planes (mainly because I’m an expat), and must admit on a flip side I’d get people glaring me as if to say ‘there’s a child on a plane?!’ Of course there’s a child on a plane cos parents need to travel too unless these people are expecting parents to use a canoe across the Atlantic or to which ever destination they are travelling?! I have had my son cry at times (mainly because the stupid air stewardess will speak in the mike for irrelevant information at 3am), then those evil glares will come back. Courteous comes both ways & stop glaring at parents who are traveling with children & managing them! On most parts I’ve had people come to me at the end to praise what a great kid I have.

Lindsey Diana Bennight 9 months ago

They got what they deserved? What? Some kids cannot be soothed no matter what you pack, it’s called life, and shit happens. Maybe you should have prepared and taken a nap before, or bought your own ear plugs! I can justify being aggravated at a bar or movie but come on it’s a airplane and I guarantee you didn’t offer to help in any way or nicely offer your (obviously “works everytime-all the time”) tricks to keep kids from making a sound! Bet you don’t know anything about her situation except that her baby was bothering you

Stephanie Holcombe 9 months ago

Oh my Ya, my son is terrified by any mask and we needed to go to one of those stores, we totally didn’t take him in! I waited in the car so hubby could go. I didn’t wanna scare him forever lol

Jane Cartwright 9 months ago

I’m sorry but there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with an infant in a movie theatre, no matter the movie. To an infant there is no difference between Friday the 13th and The Hunger Games. Newborns in movie theaters is seriously the easiest best thing ever. They sleep through it. However, if the child wakes up crying, leave immediately. But don’t be a dick and hate the parent the second you see them just because they have a child with them. Give the family a chance.

Caleb N Melinda 9 months ago

I may add that it’s not karma because I’ve gotten several complimentary glasses of wine because there was nowhere else to move and the stewardess took pity on me, even tho I didn’t complain once. So who’s the bad guy now?

Jane Cartwright 9 months ago

I’m sorry but there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with an infant in a movie theatre, no matter the movie. To an infant there is no difference between Friday the 13th and The Hunger Games. Newborns in movie theaters is seriously the easiest best thing ever. They sleep through it. However, if the child wakes up crying, leave immediately. But don’t be a dick and hate the parent the second you see them just because they have a child with them. Give the family a chance.

Vicki Lamb 9 months ago

Instead of yet another divisive post about how shit all those *other, but never me* parents are. How about something that celebrates difference and encourages. These are getting a bit dire. I really miss the Offbeat Families blog…

Caleb N Melinda 9 months ago

I’ve never said that to a child’s or parents face only in my head. But I’d like too. Maybe it was your child that made me feel like that

Amie Miller 9 months ago

Love LOVE this. I have six kids and actually like other peoples kids but that doesn’t mean I want to encounter them everywhere I go! There is a time and place for everyone. Adult parties and bars are not one of those. If your kids really are well behaved then good for you and feel free to take them to nice restaurants. But if something specifies no kids then it means no kids no matter how awesome you think yours are. Rules are rules and breakers are a-holes.

Vicki Lamb 9 months ago

Awesome. Getting a bit tired of ‘non judgey’ blogs that essentially just act as sanctimonious avenues for telling everyone that they’re shit. I used to take my kids into the city all the time and there were zero family friendly places to eat, drink and hang out. We made do, tried to be creative and avoid pissing people off. It wasn’t always successful; but then there’s always someone who is looking to be pissed off by kids.

Amie Miller 9 months ago

Key word being if…. Your child may be well behaved buuut a lot aren’t. I’m pretty sure its OK for you to judge that yourself. 😉 and I’m pretty sure she’s talking about children like mine. They don’t get to go to nice places bc they tend to be obnoxious in the gas station. No way I’m taking them somewhere else. :)

Natalie Cressionnie Yarbrough 9 months ago

I remember being a non-parent and having to deal with loud kids and clueless parents at restaurants, so I’m hyper-vigilant now when we are in public. All of this is spot on.

Jennifer Dzemske 9 months ago

I disagree with 2 and 3

Natalie Cressionnie Yarbrough 9 months ago

Simma down, sister!

Lindsey Diana Bennight 9 months ago

Amen! You know how many times I’ve been to a movie where some stupid grown ups decided it’s a good time to answer the phone or yell at the screen and loudly crinkle bags right behind me? Ugh I refuse to go to the movies anymore!

Lin Haydell 9 months ago

First of all, every woman I have ever met thought she discovered and was the first woman to get pregnant and give birth. I hate women who say if they don’t want my children they won’t get me. Those are usually the one with the obnoxious kids anyway, stay home. It seems every time I’m in a nice restaurant and the mean gets to the table someone’s kid starts screaming, I can handle crying ; that’s what kids do. Ear piercing screams? Hell no! You paid good money to eat out? So did we!

Tina Schnadt 9 months ago

Another thing parents seem to think is, that their kids (and that of course includes the parents) have to be first in every line or always in the front row (at shows, the circus, the zoo…), because they are so small and couldn’t see otherwise. Well, it is a pity, but everyone else is waiting for his / her turn, so you and your kids do, too! If your kid is too impatient for waiting, it is just bad luck to YOU.

Amanda Mirambell-Grice 9 months ago

That’s also none of your business, Jennifer

Joanne McCudden 9 months ago

My son goes to all types of restaurants and behaves well. We do see lots of kid haters recoil as soon as he walks in but they quickly relax because he stays seated and is pretty sensible.

He also goes to pubs but you have to a bit selective there….basically nice ones are fine. Crusty man ones are not :)

Amanda Mirambell-Grice 9 months ago

Claire, I do hope you’re mocking me. Otherwise you look totally stupid.

Claire Rebuck 9 months ago

Ma keeds luv horrar moovies & cheeken wangs.

Joanne McCudden 9 months ago

A lot of anger!

Yesenia Salehpour 9 months ago

It depends on culture and type of party. I’m Mexican, and usually kids are welcome, but I had a more “American” evening wedding at a high end venue. Plus the point is that I had a no children wedding and people always want to fight with the host.

Kate 9 months ago

Hair Salons! Love when people show up for a 3 hour highlight with a toddler! Are they crazy?! It’s a nightmare, also not the kids fault, they don’t know any better.

Kaitlin Street 9 months ago

I agree with all except #3. If my child is well behaved, we deserve to go to a restaurant other than friendly’s. Thank you very much!

Cherish Foreman Davis 9 months ago

Some of these comments on here too-jeez! I guess even some mothers don’t understand or like kids very much. Wow.

Cherish Foreman Davis 9 months ago

It depends. To each their own.

Cherish Foreman Davis 9 months ago

Wow.

Cherish Foreman Davis 9 months ago

This article sounded snarky and snide to me. “Kids should be seen and not heard” tone. It felt cold. I super did not like this article.
There’s the parents who just let their kids be jerks and don’t encourage them to exhibit politeness and kindness, and that’s one thing. But I like to think most parents parent and show their children by example how to be caring and kind.
And the family shouldn’t have to be shut-ins or feel insecure.
I think the bigger issue is the other people-society as a whole seems very impatient and unkind with everyone including children. I think that’s more the issue.

Megan McCleskey Pierce 9 months ago

We had an adult only wedding, exact for the kids in the wedding. It worked beautifully for us!

Danielle Vales 9 months ago

Except sometimes there needs to be a height limit: as in children past a certain height might be injured on the equipment.

Also, Michelle clearly commented on being too big and too rough. I’m sure she’s not talking about the kid who’s 3 inches taller than his peers.

(My son is very large for his age, only a foot shorter than me at 5. I know the struggles of having a big kid, but that doesn’t mean I tell him he can do things anyway because he’s only 5 and it doesn’t matter that he’s past the height requirement)

Holli Cooper Ohngren 9 months ago

So many child haters on here. Pretty sad. This article is ugly.

Holli Cooper Ohngren 9 months ago

I agree! The flight one bugs me only because small children’s ear drums plug such easier than ours at high altitudes. It hurts! That’s probably why they are fussy and crying in the first place. I have 4 kids and I feel for every parent trying their best when they can’t console their kids.

Jennifer Gongaware 9 months ago

That’s terrible :(

Jennifer Gongaware 9 months ago

Yes, it’s a rule at most theatres, it’s just difficult to enforce

Tamsyn Taylor 9 months ago

I agree rules should be followed as far as adult only films and bars etc are concerned. Also the swimming lessons. That’s just common sense.
However, for children to learn how to behave in social situations they have to attend social events. It isn’t about “entitlement” it’s about teaching your child.
On the other hand, I was told by a woman who flew from Canada to England that a baby had cried most of the way and it really disturbed and annoyed her. She said how the mother had tried everything to soothe the child but to no avail. All I could think about was that poor mum – I’ve been on flights where my child has been in discomfort. It’s awful and you feel dreadful, embarrassed and uncomfortable. Snide looks and comments don’t help.
The thing is, these people were all children once and will probably have children in the future. I think a little more patience and understanding is the key.

Jennifer Gongaware 9 months ago

No one said any of that…perhaps you should re-read

Cookie Bite 9 months ago

You are so right! When I travelled with my 3 month old baby, who slept through the whole flight I should add, people rolled their eyes as soon as they saw him. I can’t imagine what would happen if he cried… Freaking hell.

Angie Bounds 9 months ago

We highly encourage babies in bars around here. And in breweries. And restaurants. And just about anywhere. Tiny humans and big humans just go together.

Jennifer Gongaware 9 months ago

Amanda Mirambell-Grice like everyone keeps trying to tell you, it becomes everyone else’s business when you do it. And for God’s sake, take a parenting class!

Cookie Bite 9 months ago

Let’s not forget those parents who decide to stay on the airplane aisle and put a bunch of kids to play together… And if you disturb them to um i dont know go to the bathroom the looks they give you are just priceless.

Tamsyn Taylor 9 months ago

I’ve never been to an adult only wedding. If invited I probably wouldn’t have attended anyway. I understand that people organising their weddings have that choice though.

Danielle Vales 9 months ago

Sarah, that example is kind of what people were talking about. Those two people intervened and you didn’t react poorly. In America, parents tend to be very defensive if a stranger intervenes or talks to their children, which is why we react poorly to parents who don’t deal with their children.

At the end of the day it’s about knowing what your child is capable of handling, and about being considerate of the larger population.

The reverse would be if a woman threw a fit because chuck e cheese is noisy: tough shit. It’s a noisy place and if you want quiet you need to go to a place designed for that. Just like if I want my child to make a lot of noise, there are restaurants where that would not be appropriate.

Alexis Anderson 9 months ago

Well thanks. And your right the women that go in there and let their kids run around and they get mad at the ladies for taking to long like they are more important than the people that were their first that’s what I can’t stand. I keep the humor from it to myself.

Michelle Lardin 9 months ago

Daniel your parents brought you into it, unfortunately. Jerk.

Val Lepage McCann Missaoui 9 months ago

Me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me much Amanda?

Alexis Anderson 9 months ago

I understand that part obviously, I don’t drink so that’s not a problem. As far as movies go, I’ve never really met many parents who have time for that. Unless it’s a child’s movie and they are over one years old why bring them you’ll be busy watching them than watching the movie. I do bring her with me to get pedicures. She sits in my lap and flirts with everyone.

Kim Steenstrup Carlsson 9 months ago

Number 6… ugh! One particularly terrible flight full of some kid kicking the stuffings out of my seat, to the point where the whole row was feeling it, the mom/guardian was asked politely to please stop him from doing so. She became angry and spat “oh please!! he’s JUST a little boy!!” Hmm. Why yes he is, that’s why we’re talking to YOU, someone who IS supposed to know better. No, he’s not special and neither are you. I’m not here to suffer at the expense of you and your kid(s). Being a parent does not excuse you from being considerate of others. Children are always going to disrupt things, it happens. We are the adults and we know better, and we have to teach our kids to know better. Throwing a fit about having to follow a rule or be considerate not only shows us that you’re an asshole, it shows your kid that the rules don’t apply to them, and sets them up to be a future asshole.

Marissa Elizabeth 9 months ago

She’s not saying your kid shouldn’t go with you where ever you go, she’s saying there are certain places where it’s not appropriate to have kids so maybe you should rethink going to them. Maybe pass on the biker bar or midnight showing of “The Conjuring” or the local strip joint.

Marissa Elizabeth 9 months ago

I agree with the person who said it’s not personal. Many couples spend a lot of money on their weddings. Say the per plate is $200. That means for a 2 year old, IF there is a discount, the bride and groom will pay $100 for him. I’m not about to tell my friends to suck that cost up just because I want my kids there. Not to mention how much money goes into everything else. A wedding reception isn’t about your kids and your view of family. It’s about what the bride and groom envision for themselves. And sometimes that’s a nice, adult party. It’s not personal.

M Elissa D As 9 months ago

I feel the same way. I do think it’s entirely up to the couple getting married, but I loved having children come to my wedding. It was a family-oriented event and we all had a great time!

Steph Powers 9 months ago

Am I the only one who got the impression the writer doesn’t like kids at all? I live 2000 miles away from family and friends. I don’t have the option to just leave my kids with a babysitter every time I need to go somewhere. He’s 4 and she’s 1. Do they act up? Of course. Do I address it? Of course. And anyone who has children is usually pretty understanding. We only go out to eat to places like dave and busters or ch uck e cheese because it’s already loud. Usually these posts are from other moms who can make fun of the craziness of being a parent, but it seems like lately it is a lot of bitter mothers who hate parenthood and children. Maybe I just read the tone wrong?

M Elissa D As 9 months ago

Im sure someone will get mad at me, but I swear, in America, dogs are way more accepted than children. And, I find that disturbing. (I’m American)

M Elissa D As 9 months ago

I agree that kids that are too big/old shouldn’t be in the play areas for small kids, but judging that by height is dumb.

Sarah Burger 9 months ago

I had an adult only reception and it had nothing to do with cost. It was my day, and I simply didn’t want little kids everywhere, out of control, all over the place, parent more concerned about bed time than having fun, etc. A few didn’t come because they couldn’t bring their kids and may have been offended and frankly, I still don’t care. I feel the same about wedding and baby showers. It’s a time for grown-ups. I now have a son and always assume he’s not invited to these functions unless otherwise stated/

M Elissa D As 9 months ago

Thank you! I’m sick of all the divisive articles I see. They just encourage us to bash each other in the comments.

Danielle Searancke 9 months ago

obnoxious article

Teresa Piskator 9 months ago

I was one of those kids in #2 — I was practically raised in a bar. My dad would take me and my sister along for the ride constantly. He tells stories about me being a baby, wandering around in my walker in different places.

Alyssa McVey 9 months ago

Isn’t it cute when people who aren’t parents give parenting advice? I have no idea what raising a special needs child is like, but I didn’t even leave my neuro-typical son with anyone but family until he was 4.

Sassyone 9 months ago

It is their right to allow any age guest to their wedding or wedding dinner. I am for that. So, I have to say it’s up to the wedding party not the guests who’s allowed to come and who must stay away. If they don’t want young children to the party then so be it. They are allowed that.

Dorina C Albion 9 months ago

Here in BC we have new rules for pubs, in the New year we can bring children to pubs and be able to drink around them. I find this wrong. as we’re not Europe, they allow this kind of thing…

heather 9 months ago

I just watched a family if four boys ranging roughly from 2 to 7 systematically destroy a breakfast room in a business hotel. Food literally flew through the air and at one point absolutely no one was actually seated at the table. They were all running around and escaping to the halls. I had wondered why the breakfast attendant praised my kids like sunshine radiated from their asses as they poured their frosted flakes and fetched their OJ. Now I know.

Anna Tallberg 9 months ago

‘Some’ parents act like the world should revolve around them. But I’ve found there are FAR more kid allergic, child haters out there than rude parents. It’s really hard sometimes, for example traveling with small kids and it’s awful when people are so intolerant. There’s nothing worse than being totally self conscious, trying to settle a crying baby when some entitled, compassion devoid person shoots you disapproving looks or complains. I think most parents try their best not to inconvenience others but there honestly are some people who a) act like they’ve never seen a child before b) treat you like a second class citizen who is disrupting their divine right to peace and c) are just downright mean and intolerant. Just because you have a child does not have to mean you should lock yourself away and never go anywhere or do anything for fear of ‘inflicting’ them on others. They are people too and have a right to exist in the world. Nothing gets my goat more than kid haters. But I agree about adult bars. That’s just wrong.

Jennifer Glasgow 9 months ago

I would add parents who just let their kids come up to you and just start talking. If I’m sitting in a waiting room or anywhere really, I don’t need your kid to come up to me and strike up a conversation. I know you think your kid is awesome and adorable, but I most likely don’t.

Beau ‘Bodelishus’ Chevassus 9 months ago

One to add to the list:
HALLOWEEN STORES.

Why oh why (or perhaps there are some parents out there who can explain this?) do you bring your 4 year old into a horrifying store? Certainly we cannot insulate our children from everything in this world, but a Halloween store can be helped.

On November 1st I went to a Spirit Halloween to score some 50% off fake blood, and there was this mom laughingly explaining to her three, horrified young children that the dangling dead babies with dripping fangs were “just funny decorations.”

No. They weren’t “funny.” They’re awful. And so is your parenting.

*end judgmental rant and back I go to perfect parenting.* <–lol!

Kimberly Easly 9 months ago

This is by far the rudest article that’s been posted on here and there’s a lot of hate coming from all the people commenting. I’m not saying I don’t agree because on most of it I do, just that it would be nice if people didn’t have to tare each other apart to make a point.

Penny Galan Bitner 9 months ago

Number 6 is my biggest pet-peeve. Look, I totally have kids and I know traveling with them on a plane can be so hard. I pack all sorts of interesting things for them to do and to snack on. I buy new, exciting toys (that do not make any noise) or books. I prepare for just about any emergency situation. I bring 2 changes of extra clothing.

I’m crazy about overpreparing because I don’t want to be *that* parent who can’t keep their kid from going crazy on the flight.

That said, there has only been one instance that I can think of where the parents didn’t prepare or maybe the kid was sick or something. I was taking a red-eye from Hawaii to…somewhere I can’t remember right now, and I had planned to sleep on the plane. Only problem was this one kid who would not stop crying. She cried the entire flight, I kid you not–takeoff to landing. Eventually I was so overly tired that I started to get all jittery and every scream sort of touched all the nerves in my body and I sort of just wanted to be dead. It was so awful. I never said anything though, because even though I was in hell I could tell the parent’s were also in hell, so I guess they also got what they deserved…?

I remember thinking that was the worst torture I’d endured, probably ever. I think the airline should have handed out earplugs or something. Maybe the parents should have offered to pay for them.

Rachel 9 months ago

Great article (which made me laugh because sadly it is so true!) but you missed dance recitals – the parents who think their child is the only star and should be given special treatment. While managing (read guarding) the back stage door this weekend a parent rolled her eyes at me when I wouldn’t let her go backstage – I mean really – my 7 year old rolls her eyes but a grown adult? And what made her any different from the other 30 parents who kids were performing? Oh that’s right – she is special and entitled!!

Pia Goemans 9 months ago

My worst has to be the child that is clearly too OLD to be in a certain play area and they choose to break the equipment by messing around on it and making it difficult for the younger child to actually enjoy what is meant to be their space…and the parents just ignore what their silly children are doing and don’t even tell them off!!! It is really disturbing to watch this total lack of respect for others and public spaces which leads me to believe that they do the same thing at home :(

Amy Lianna 9 months ago

I had to be at my nanas funeral when my daughter was ten weeks old. She spent the day with her daddy and I went. All day relatives were asking me why didn’t I bring her, why not, blah blah blah.
Cos that’s an appropriate place to bring an infant, to a cemetery and then home where people are drinking and reminiscing.
Right…

Katie Gan 9 months ago

I agree that people should be involved and aware of what their kids are doing while they are out and be considerate of others and how their children are interacting with them. People should be attending to their kids when they are out in public. However, this position is completely disregarding people who have children with behavioral disorders or children with special needs, AND people who have children and cannot afford care and don’t have anyone to care for them voluntarily. It’s a classist position, and quite frankly, what some would call a “white whine.” I bring my daughter to pubs (my friends enjoy her company and so do the regulars at the pub). I allow my daughter (14 months) to play in public play spaces that are labeled as being age appropriate for ages 2-6 (I supervise her, duh). Anyway, this person has a pompous tone, and it is actually the first time I’ve responded to an article on Scary Mommy like this. I’ve worked in customer service and as a preschool teacher where there are parents who are perhaps too hands off, but really, it’s far more complex than that, and this writer needs to be the one to grow up.

Nicole 9 months ago

I had a “no kids” wedding. I got married at a major league baseball park, and our reception was attending the game. I don’t have anything against kids, but my husband and I both have large families, and we had to cut off the list of invitees somewhere because we had a very strict budget. We did not get offended when certain relatives or friends couldn’t come because they either couldn’t afford a babysitter or didn’t want to. It was their choice. And no one was offended (at least not that I knew of) when they were told no kids allowed.

I was always told the rule of thumb was that if the invitation has your name only (for a shower), or your and your spouse’s name only (for another event), your kids aren’t invited. Typically, if kids are welcome the invite will say “the So-and-So family” or “Mr. and Mrs. So-and-So and Family”, or will have your kids’ names on it. When it doubt, ask. If it’s a blatant “no kids” thing, it’s really not about you. If you can’t or don’t want to get a sitter, then I guess you just don’t go to the event. No big deal. Now, if they person gets mad you chose not to attend because your kids weren’t invited, well, that’s another issue entirely.

Laila Valade 9 months ago

We tell our kids (when they are old enough to understand) that they are so incredibly special to us and mean the world to us and those who love them but to the rest of the world they are nobody’s…just another face in the crowd. We feel it’s good that even though they know in our eyes, they are adored, to strangers they are just another person.

Jennifer Thunder Crotch Ferrell 9 months ago

And no, I don’t go to bars or the movies even, so don’t assume. But just taking my kids to you know, a museum, where they can learn neat shit, has taught me a lot about the entitlement of kid-haters.

Jennifer Thunder Crotch Ferrell 9 months ago

I like how people are discussing kids like they aren’t also human beings. The world doesn’t lack asshole adults who I also hate having to experience in the world, and those are full grown, but please, let’s continue complaining about kids.

Paula Elizondo 9 months ago

Lol!

Felicia P McNiff 9 months ago

Great writing

Susan 9 months ago

i agree with some of your premise, but your judgmental attitude is disappointing. I believe it is important to teach my child manners and appropriate behavior, not be relegated to family restaurants and reruns. Being judgmental and critical of others is as destructive as feeling entitled and above the rules. Maybe you can work on your attitudes so that your children will not carry on a legacy of intolerance.

Luna 9 months ago

Yeah, and I bet you’re the first to judge when a kid is misbehaving. Oh no, a parent is having fun in public. Oh no. Your perfect tranquility is being disturbed by a Mom playing with a kid. Whatever will you do? Oh, I know. STFU and leave.

Jenny Kociba DeCoster 9 months ago

Can we add kids that play iPads/Nintendo DS at full volume in a restaurant to the list (even if family friendly)- it’s called headphones or mute!

Natalie Boles 9 months ago

My favorite is the parent that, while the precious little package of joy is throwing a huge tantrum in the middle of the grocery store, ASKS their child to be quite using the phrase “please”…like my husband for instance. I either 1. Don’t shop with kids…duh or 2. Set the rules on the way in and the very second one of them is broken I take disciple them right there. Several times I’ve put my child in time out on the floor right in aisle 7. I don’t care what ppl think, I’m their mom, and I don’t want them to grow up and be jerks.

Susan Dylka 9 months ago

And when the second Hobbit movie came out people did exactly that. I stayed to watch it a second time. Poor baby didn’t deserve to be there when she should have been in bed.

Ashley Reed-Higham 9 months ago

I have two children, and my wedding is going to be Adults Only. I deserve a night off from kids, especially on MY special night that I envision a certain way. I call the shots. If anyone brought their child anyways (as I’ve seen a few women on here proudly decree) I’d raise absolute hell.

Jennifer Thunder Crotch Ferrell 9 months ago

Americans are shitty about children in public. #ThingsILearnedLivingInEurope

Luna 9 months ago

While I agree that it was rude of them to say no kids under 5, it was also rude of you to take your kids anyway.

When I get invites that say no children, I assume I am not welcome either, and do not go. Furthermore, those people are no longer invited to anything I do. If my children are not welcome, neither am I. We come as a package.

People want ‘no kids’ weddings are spoiled brats. You don’t need those people in your life.

lu 9 months ago

I think YOU’RE rude for bringing your children to an event that specified “no children” Your only choice was to either get a babysitter or decline the invitation.

Susan Dylka 9 months ago

Good lord when I took my kids on Amtrak I didn’t sleep each time we were on the train !! Firstly, I was worried someone would take them. Second, I didn’t want them wandering off bothering anyone!! And, believe me, traveling with 5 kids alone under the age of 7 is no picnic! I chose to have children. I plan to do a good job!

Xtine 9 months ago

Thank you!!

Amanda Pinney 9 months ago

The only true consensus I’m getting from the comments section of this article is that Mockingjay is worth seeing in the theater.

Carrie AndFam Streetman 9 months ago

the point of the article is to be respectful and responsible. Taking your baby and bigger sibling to a noon showing of frozen is acceptable, not a 10pm horror show. Just use common sense and common courtesy!

Dawn Souza Moye 9 months ago

Some of these comments highlight exactly why the article was written. The complete lack of respect for how your actions impact others in public is appalling. I get it, you love your kids and think they are great. Not everyone else does. In fact most people can’t stand your kid when they are out in a setting made for adults and have to listen to them cry and scream or have them run all around touching everything. Get over yourself and realize that your kids are yours and should not impact other people unless they choose to interact with them.

Sarah Austin 9 months ago

I’m taking my 6 month old to Mockingjay this weekend. She will sleep the entire time!

Erin Nicole Clopton 9 months ago

Yes!!!

Naomi 9 months ago

This author is a horrible human being…so are the people who agree with most of these “rules”…you don’t get to tell me where my child gets to exist and I’m HAPPY it makes you angry :0)…

Tina Goodwin Paker 9 months ago

Number three drives me crazy! I pay a sitter to have a nice quiet meal with my husband and someone else brings their screaming kid into a fancy restaurant and ends up seated next to me.

Rachel Anne Fray 9 months ago

Common sense – not so common anymore lol

Julie 9 months ago

Lol, thanks I’m stealing that one!

Jessica Strandell 9 months ago

I don’t think it has anything to do with entitlement I think it’s more about they feel their kids are more important than your feelings. And # 1 I feel is a stupid complaint. They were leaving town and they wanted to play one last time it not a big deal kids in movies irritating yes but it is their right as an American for them and their child to be there idk this seems a bit childish. Bars and adult restaurants are legit complaints

Lacey Jones 9 months ago

Once went to a near midnight showing of 300 rise of an empire with my husband. Sex, killing, language. There was a women there with her four year old. He did not set well or anything. He was having a hard time. Understandably as it was freakin midnight. This lady was on a date. How weird. Anyways I did not really care, it was not that huge of a deal. I thought if I can’t deal with that then I probably need to take a chill pill. Anyways, we get out of the theater and her kid throws a toy down right as I am walking by and I trip on it. Well accidently and quietly I say “oh fuck” as I fall to the ground. The lady turns and says “how dare you cuss in front of my son” and I could not believe it. I said “ya and you must have missed the part of the movie where after having sex the main female character tells the man he FUCKS like a greek” or any of thevother times they cussed. Seriously. I did not even care the kid was there even though I personally woild not take my child that little for not even others benefit but his own. But to act that way as I am laying on the ground after her kid tripped me and I am not even mad? Whew I was so pissed. And it was my husband and Is first date night out in ten months after having a baby. Btw we had hired a babysitter. Wr knew our son did not want to go to a bar and grill and then texas roadhouse. He stayed with gramma while we stayed at a hotel.

Christie Morrow 9 months ago

Agreed!!!

Brigette Wiens 9 months ago

We miss a lot of movies we’d like to see in the theater. Not necessarily horror, but anything non-child related would be nice once in a while. I couldn’t imagine taking my kids to any adult movie so late at night just because I *had* to see it or they *love* horror etc. :( those just aren’t very good excuses, not good enough to disturb the rest of the patrons that have paid their small fortune to see the film without kids distracting them

Michelle T 9 months ago

Gotta agree with this. The adults can be as loud as they want and who is more likely to cause a ruckus, a well-behaved three year old or Uncle Drunky we all have? I think excluding children from what is supposed to be two people starting their life together and celebrating with their friend and families? Uh, how do you have families without kids, again?

Rachel Lehman 9 months ago

All these people without kids in tow seem to think they are entitled to peace and kid-free quiet, though I’m not sure why. Yes, everyone should follow the rules but if a crying kid is disturbing your pedicure, get the hell over it, at least you’re getting a pedicure. When I’m at dinner without kids and I hear some kid being obnoxious I am just happy I’m not their parent right now!

ilmom 9 months ago

please post your name and location so your friends who aren’t yet married will remember to NOT invite you to their weddings. you are the rude one, entitled brat. seriously ,what is wrong with you? i sincerely hope that was a joke.

Brea Barner 9 months ago

No you aren’t that special but how about some “do’s”

DO:

1. Take your children to age appropriate movies that you all as a family will enjoy.

2. Have some cocktails out with friends at a decent hour for your little to be a pleasant presence (whatever that hour may be; everyone has different lifestyles). Just remember do a GET a cab or Uber it!

3. Eat all kinds of wonderful and different food at ANY place even if there is no kids menu!! Take the kiddos; just go at their dinner time so everyone has a pleasant dining experience and they get to experiment with all kinds of cuisine.

Take #4 and #5 as good advice…

6. TRAVEL with your family!!! Yes be prepared; unfortunate as it may be we are raising what we hope to strong independent people that sometimes despite our best planning shockingly enough act as their own person and not programmed traveling robots immune to long lines, boring layovers, or hours of unexpected delays.

I am so exhausted by all the DON’T’s and “I hate “those” parents” lists!! We are a village let’s support each other and all get out there and enjoy life with our kids!!! WE ARE ALL THAT SPECIAL!

Jackie Stowell 9 months ago

I would like to add parents that send their kid out to school, daycare, etc. sick. Ugh, what happened to the 24 hour rule. Kids all over the country went to school today and said to the teacher ‘I threw up last night.’ Ummmmm…..

Cherie Wilkerson 9 months ago

Yes to all of these. I don’t do half the things on this list because I have kids and try to keep family and the general public at a point where they love to see my children. Your kids deserve better than rude glares so don’t put them in this situation

Hillary Kelln 9 months ago

Was nodding pretty much the entire time. Except at the bar thing. My old man used to take me with him sometimes to the bar (I was also around seven or eight at the time), the lady would give me a lollipop and a soda while dad would sit and chat with the other old farts.

Then again, we live in a small town where everyone knows everyone so it wasn’t really a big deal…

Katie Pierce Hendricks 9 months ago

I agree with all of these but the restaurant. I’ve taken my toddler to many restaurants that would not necessarily be labeled kid-friendly but I made sure he was set up for success (quiet toys, solid nap, back up food) and made reservations whenever possible. Unless there’s a sign, I will take my child to a restaurant or in a store (not a bar) and if there is a sign, I’m probably not going. That being said, it is my responsibility to make sure my child does not disrupt the other patrons. Rather than leave your kids at home, why not train them from an early age to be respectful and behave appropriately?

Michelle Bush 9 months ago

Also keep your children who are TOO BIG off equipment and out of areas specified for little ones! Soo frustrating when you are unable to allow your child to have fun in a play area because there are children who are too big playing way too rough!

Tracy 9 months ago

I wouldn’t exactly say going “shhh..” and “I don’t know why she’s doing this” was doing anything.

Rachel Ingle 9 months ago

What if this article was written about entitled black people, or homosexuals instead of people with children? What if the article read like this? “I am shocked I even have to write this, but having witnessed quite a few people (especially in NYC) feel completely comfortable bringing their [gay partners] children into what should clearly be adult [straight] only establishments, and it makes me wonder what these parents [homosexuals] are thinking.” I just don’t think Scary Mommy should promote such discrimination. Unless it’s about entitled fat people at restaurants. I mean, I don’t want to see that while I’m eating, besides if someone is that fat, they don’t need to eat anyway, just stay home so I don’t have to watch.

Hilary Shaw Frank 9 months ago

Thank you for writing this! I feel like I’m the only one who goes nuts over this stuff

Amber Nicole 9 months ago

I don’t do these thing but don’t really care if anyone else does. Not my circus not my monkey’s.

Corrine Arguelles 9 months ago

Yes. All of these.

Abbie Burge 9 months ago

I never understood the “no kids” wedding. In my family, a wedding is a family event, and obviously, a crying child would be escorted out. However, if I got a “no kids” invite, I would respect that or just not attend.

Rebecca Iakiri Dietlein 9 months ago

I think beach etiquette should be added to that list! Good lord…I think a minimum of 50% of parents bring their kids to the beach for a break with fingers crossed, hoping the other parents will watch their ill behaved children. Not to mention the smokers smoking next to no smoking signs, drinkers liquoring it up next to no alcohol signs, the single peeps that park their butts directly in the center of families & swear like sailors (do sailors really cuss that much?!?), and the parents who WATCH their kids throw sand and rocks at anyone within reach and say nothing.

Jacalyn Shirley 9 months ago

If your kid is playing a game on your phone/their ipod/etc. while waiting somewhere (i.e.: doctor office, in line at groceries, etc.), turn OFF the volume. Seriously. Soooo annoying.

SF 9 months ago

Agree with all of them. One memorable flight, the parents left their approx. 8 and 10 year olds in coach, behind us, and they slithered up to business. Finally about 30 minutes in, I had to get the flight attendant to bring one of the parents back to deal with them. Dad had to spend the rest of the flight in coach.

Jen Jakiel 9 months ago

Clearly there are several parents on here that this post is for that don’t realize it or–of course– don’t care because, well obviously the rules and/other people are not their problem. It’s always the ones who NEED to read this that don’t get it. If you’re offended by this article or my comment: you’re that parent.

Melody Mankus 9 months ago

We parents set the example for our children, whether we want to or not. They look to what we do to determine what behavior is and isn’t acceptable and for the consequences. So if, as a parent, you hold yourself above the rules and don’t follow them or think you deserve exceptions, know that you are teaching those behaviors to your children. This is a total disservice to them because they mimic what you do, thinking it’s ok. And guess what? You probably won’t enjoy having your snotty behavior played back to you through your kid!

Rochelle Mitchell Miller 9 months ago

Thank you for writing this.

cordaville 9 months ago

Wow so rude!!! Respect the bride’s wishes! It was her day, it wasn’t all about you!

Rachel Schanna 9 months ago

Love this!
At my sons preK there is a front drive and you aren’t suppose to park or drop off but people do all the time. And here I am taking my 1 and 3 yr old in to pick up their 5yr old brother and one of his class mates. So I am walking though the snow with 4 kids passing the parents parked right at the door with their one kid.

Edith Adamson 9 months ago

I KNOW!!!!

Tracy M. 9 months ago

That’s terribly obnoxious behavior on your part. Did it ever occur to you that the reason you weren’t kicked out is because no one wanted to make a scene? I’m sure that’s what you were counting on. You’re exactly the entitled person this post is talking about.

Barroness 9 months ago

Our work is like this when it snows. People KNOW that the area they are parking in is obviously the no parking zone but since there is snow on the ground and they can’t see the lines then the rules must not apply.

Jesse Roth Tran 9 months ago

I HATE when people think they are exempt from the rules. Ugh!!!

Hannelore Cat 9 months ago

As a new, first time mother with an infant, if she starts crying, I leave. As quickly as possible. I will not be that entitled mother because when you are good to people, people are good to you. Seeing me struggle, more than one person has smiled kindly, asked if I needed help, or simply offered a kind word. When I am more experienced, or have the chance, I do the same and will do the same. In a few months, I will be taking my infant daughter on a plane. I have asked numerous mothers, grandmothers, fathers and grandfathers for tips, as well as reading articles. I have no doubt I’ll get huffy people glaring at me while she cries. I am scared to be honest! But I am not going to check out. I will be the mother trying anything. Entitlement is a plague that needs to be cured. The world won’t get better with a bad attitude.

Barroness 9 months ago

Our theater has special screening just for parents with kids. They leave the lights on low and have special parking areas for strollers etc. If you desperately need to see that movie in theater and can’t (or won’t) get a sitter go to one of those!!!

Teresa Howick Wilson 9 months ago

Omg the movie! I went to hunger games the other day and this young couple had their baby with them. Wtf?!

Abbie Burge 9 months ago

We have a “no hats ” policy at our high school, and it infuriates me when parents bring their hat wearing kids to conferences and open houses. Yes, I tell the kids (and parents) to remove hats. It’s like they think rules don’t apply because we are not “in class. “

Joyce Godwin 9 months ago

I agree with all of these. A family I know recently went to Disney World and was flying down. However, their 18 month old is an absolute terror. They rightfully decided she should instead take a vacation to the shore with her aunt and uncle instead of disrupting travel experiences and vacations of countless others.

Barroness 9 months ago

This happens at my kids school EVERYDAY… no matter how many open parking spaces there are there are always the same vans parked in the no parking zone, where they have to go the wrong way through the one way driveway to get to.

Julie Scarfo 9 months ago

I personally wouldn’t take my kids to any of the mentioned places, but we did have an issue with a (now ex) friend of my husbands who wouldn’t allow my son who was 1 to go to her wedding. No issue to me as I didn’t want to go to the wedding anyway, however we got a lecture regarding marriage and parenting which was none of her business. She was extremely upset that we wouldn’t leave our special needs child with a sitter. If you make those rules you also have to be ok with the outcome. Oh and I was 6 months pregnant too lol

Tami Krebs 9 months ago

Seriously do we as parents really think our children want to be in all these inappropriate scenarios? If we’re honest we take them places that are not suited for children because we’re selfish. Yes I said it. Selfish. You want to go, you don’t want to miss something so you think your kid should go. Smh let the child have a schedule and sleep and play at home where they are most comfortable and familiar. Common sense -please use it!

Antonella B. O’Brien 9 months ago

Thoughtless, rude, nasty parents raise thoughtless, rude, nasty children. That’s so sad-because unfortunately those children will be the adults our kids will eventually need to contend with in life. A little consideration and thought about others would really serve our society well.

Sarah Hogan 9 months ago

Just noticed how truly impatient Americans are with kids. Looking from the outside in. Is it part of the culture? Part of a fear of disturbing others? Or just literally being annoyed (hopefully not shocked) at a mini person’s behavior? Just curious, not trying to infuriate anyone.

Christina Justice Gillardo 9 months ago

I agree with this article 1000%. I have been accused of being a stick in the mud because I wouldn’t go to events that I didn’t deem child friendly. Plus, I know my kid’s temperaments and knew if they could behave or not. Everyone should be able to enjoy a night out without having to endure other people’s screaming brats.

Leslie Kelley 9 months ago

Why would anyone have to justify or explain having an Adults Only wedding? The host is the host, period.
Get a sitter, stay home, or foot the bill. I swear the concept of manners is simply lost on some people.

Maria 9 months ago

So if your child with special needs is unable to NOT kick the seat in front of him, shouldn’t you buy a seat in the first row? Fairly simple. If another child with special needs was seated behind your child and repeatedly kicked his seat, causing him to meltdown, wouldn’t you be upset?

Amanda Deana Ramos 9 months ago

Love this

NZanj 9 months ago

Geez that’s pretty bad, I wouldn’t expect another invite! It is their day their decision regardless of how “well” your children behaved. How selfish of you.

Jess 9 months ago

Sometimes prepared isnt good enough for planes. I took my almost 2 year old who did so great for 3/4 of our short flights. On the last one I broke his cup washing it and he was sobbing hysterically. About 20 minutes in, I started to cry because I didnt know what to do and knew everyone on the plane wanted to kill me. I was so surprised that quite a few of our plane neighbors very nicely asked if there was anything they could do. Someone passed up their candy for him. I was actually quite touched, mortified, but touched. So I can vouch for people being at least civil if you are doing your best with the little turkey youve got.

Barroness 9 months ago

My kids were the ring bearer and flower girl for my brother’s wedding (I also have a little one). While they attended the wedding my SIL asked that they not attend the reception due to space and the fact it would run late. I got a friend to watch them for the evening and they had their own “after-party”

Yesenia Salehpour 9 months ago

Ben has yet to go to the movie theater! I don’t want to deal with it myself, I don’t know why some parents want to.

Charlene Flores 9 months ago

I once saw a mother and father take their (could have not been older than 10) child to a midnight showing of The Hangover 2! I just kept cringing the whole time at what this child is seeing, it’s part 2…they had to have been well aware of what kind of movie it was. I couldn’t believe it.

Rach 9 months ago

i agree with all but the last one. Sometimes you have to fly, sometimes you have babies who are really high-needs and colicky and cry all day for no reason no matter what you do, and if there’s nothing you can do to calm them down then there’s nothing you can do.

Hollie Warren 9 months ago

Yes!! I agree 100 percent!

JoAnna Tweit 9 months ago

Yes, yes, and YES!!

Fräulein Frühauf 9 months ago

I had no idea people were bringing babies or kids to bars or movies (non family movies) I would have thought this was self explanatory times to get a sitter

Ashly 9 months ago

I agree with most of this. Parents who break te rules in front of their children are basically teaching their children that it’s okay to break rules to suit your own wants or needs. So just no.

Now on the events one, I do agree with you that if a host asks for no children to attend, then it’s as ass move to bring your children. I personally think though that weddings are a ridiculous thing to not want kids at. Only thing stranger to me is baby showers! I mean come on; you’re celebrating the coming child!!!! K rant done!

Great article!

Holli Lee 9 months ago

I couldn’t even enjoy TED because the 6ish year old kid in the theatre in front of me.

Yesenia Salehpour 9 months ago

Oh man. The wedding list. Had issues with an aunt who wanted her best friend to come ( who wasn’t invited) and I was ok with her coming, but then she wanted her children to come also. No children! And I love my son, but children and weddings do not work!

Holli Lee 9 months ago

I hate when parents take children to adult movies! If the movie is 18+ it should be 18+ with or without parents there. Period. You want your kids to watch adult movies:do it at home.

Susan Kissman 9 months ago

I see people that aren’t parents with the same attitudes that the rule doesn’t apply to *them*.

Sarah Koebler 9 months ago

I live in WI. There are kids in bars almost always. As the #1 state for DUI’s, that is a bit concerning. On a side note, I can’t believe people defend these choices. “If I want to take my infant to a 10pm horror flick, it’s MY choice…” Do they even hear themselves? Sound like snotty brats.

Erin Starowicz Coulter 9 months ago

That’s a difficult one when your child is age appropriate but too tall. My oldest is a giant of a kid. All if his friends are playing in the play places bc they aren’t too tall but he has to sit out. = we don’t purposely break rules and try to avoid places he’s too tall for but sometimes it happens.

Alison Hamling 9 months ago

Had a family with various kids in a sold out showing of Mocking Jay. SOOOO not appropriate! Constantly up and down for potty breaks, snacks, and lap swapping. Distracting and disruptive. There is not one good reason to bring a 3 year old to that movie.

Christine Alessandro Maggio 9 months ago

“You have a baby… In a bar.”

Rose Marie Bogaard 9 months ago

The plane thing was hard for me. My husband and I were both in the military and with limited allowable leave and children, driving just wasn’t an option. My daughter was 2 and kept crying and grabbing her ears. She couldn’t pop them as adults do when the rise of altitude causes pressure. The lady beside me on the way home kept huffing and puffing and no matter what I did, my daughter wouldn’t calm. If you see a parent trying, give them a little break. Thankfully, on the way back to our military home, an older woman sat beside me and really understood my frustration and what I was going through. She taught me how to get my daughter to pop her ears by making it a game, which made the trip a lot less stressful for everyone. My daughter and I definitely needed a little compassion and understanding and I am truly grateful for that lady.

KRISTA 9 months ago

NO! Quit perpetuating the parent shaming! Some of these are givens, some are so-so’s. Just stop with the negativity. So gross.

Krissa 9 months ago

Same goes for some dog owners. Letting them run wild at the park, even on the children’s play structures, and insisting they are sweet and safe. Some kids are just scared of dogs, period. Or there’s the whole “not picking up after them” thing, or “letting them bark incessantly” thing.

Tracey Carroll 9 months ago

#1!!!

Amy Costello Aldrich 9 months ago

I’d add nail salon to this list too. Don’t bring your 1 year old to get your nails done and let them crawl around the place and splash in my pedicure water and don’t bring your 3 year old boy and let him play games on his iPad with the volume as loud as possible the entire time. No! NO!

Nancy Welker Fortais 9 months ago

Articles like this are why I love “Scary Mommy”!

Caleb N Melinda 9 months ago

Number 6!! I have four kids and they’re great fliers. Why is it whenever I get the rare chance of flying alone I get some moron idiot parent and their stupid dumb wild child of a kid sitting behind me with sponge bob blaring and they’re swinging their feet kicking the back of my seat. Ugh.. A couple glasses of wine still only makes this minimally tolerable

Jessica Ball 9 months ago

#5 is the one that annoys me most. And agree people who need to read this won’t!

Matthew Dudek 9 months ago

Some movie theaters have a notice that goes up before the movie that says “if your child becomes disruptive, please step out of the theater” and parents still won’t. We finally had a date night after a year of none, and a dad had three small children at the Xmen movie who would NOT shut up (7pm on a Saturday night). He spent the entire movie “shhhhh!!!”ing at them (clearly not enjoying it himself) but wouldn’t budge. It was a Studio Movie Grill so I asked a manager afterwards if their servers were supposed to enforce the “no disruptive children” rule they say they have, and he said they are supposed to. If it’s a kid-friendly movie, you have to put up with kids (to an extent). But other movies do NOT need continually disruptive children in them.

teachersf 9 months ago

Teaching manners and using discipline are important things for parents to do. But having empathy and understanding that children are their own people who parents cannot control is a very important thing for everyone understand. We do not make the personalities of our children. We mold them and guide them but we do not control them.

Lily, I suggest you revisit this when your next child (maybe a boy) is 2 and you are flying alone with your two kids. See how much help all of the tools you packed are when all he wants to do is pound the seat in front of him and he is strapped in to his car seat. Oh, to have only that one child again. Life was so much simpler.

April Paras Larsen 9 months ago

Why are weddings an adult only kind of function? Seriously doesn’t a wedding signify the start of a new family? What more appropriate place to celebrate family then the joining of two people? Ok I might not want a crying baby to stay long at the ceremony but when I was nursing the first year I simply did not go to many or any.

Jennifer Sinnett 9 months ago

The people that need to read this don’t

Melissa Moyles 9 months ago

Love!

Laura Lilly Vance 9 months ago

I agree with number 4. I hate it when there are big kids in the Chick Fil A play area. If they are taller than the sign, don’t let them go in.

Lindsay Spike 9 months ago

I’ve seen kids at a bar. I was sober and played pool with them because I knew they were better off with me than God knows who

Michael Toledo 9 months ago

Waaaait I can’t bring my baby to a bar?

Shannon Hayes Gilreath 9 months ago

Love this! I hate it SO much when we finally get a date night (which occurs maybe once a year) and someone has brought their crying baby or disruptive child! If you want to watch grown up movies get a sitter or watch them at home !

Raquel Heine Sandlin 9 months ago

Love this!

Pamela Tributino 9 months ago

#6! I have no issues with a fussy child, I get it, planes can be very uncomfortable. But the disrespectful ones whose parents do nothing drive me nuts!

Jillian Martin 9 months ago

Ahhh yes! Love this!

Amanda Mirambell-Grice 9 months ago

First and foremost, they’re my kids. If I want to take my kids to a horror movie, that is my choice. If I want to take my kids to eat wings at Hooters because they love wings, that is my choice. It is not for anyone else to comment upon but me or their father.

Raegan Kim 9 months ago

Perfect. Thank you!!

Tina 1 year ago

I understand your compassion, but I don’t know that a lot of these (in the article, not the comments) would be any different for my autistic son than for my NT daughter. I have never brought either child to adult-only events, five star restaurants, bars, amusement parks that they’re too young (or too old) for, or movies that are inappropriate for their age and attention span. Public transportation is about the only area which I treat the two kids differently. My daughter has always been able to ride any type of transportation with no problems. My son, however, gets overstimulated, frustrated, and overwhelmed on public transportation. So we don’t do it because I feel that putting him in a situation that I know he can’t handle is basically setting him up to fail. But I do understand that my experience is not every experience :)

tracy 1 year ago

The bride and groom are the hosts of the event so it’s their call who attends. I had a kid free wedding but said all or none as it was unfair to include some kids and not others. I would have sent you and your kids packing if you rocked up so rudely with them after being told no and then not invited you to future events. You get a babysitter or don’t go at all, simple.

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likitmtrs 1 year ago

She didn’t make the rules, she’s just pointing them out for all of us. I do hope you are aware of them already. If anything, this list is just pointing out all the ways entitled parents try to get around the established rules we all know about because they think their child shouldn’t have to follow those rules.

But what is this teaching your child really? To say f**k you to polite society? To think they are so “special” that they don’t have to follow the established behaviors we as a society have agreed to? Don’t you want your child to grow up and be successful? To get along well with others and rise to great heights in life? I think you’ll find that they will be more likely to find this success if you show them some good behavior to mirror instead of teaching them to be little a**holes. Just something to think about.

likitmtrs 1 year ago

Didn’t you already post that you don’t agree with this article and that you don’t care about any of these rules? I think we get it, no need to post again. It just doesn’t seem like that’s going to help you out much in the long run. Following rules is what you do in polite society and it’s a smart thing to teach your kids so that they can grow up and be successful. I would think that is something you would want for them. Think about it.

Loni 1 year ago

Oh good god #4 on this list! It’s finally time someone’s said something about that. I work for Walt Disney World at a very popular ride with a Height requirement and its unbelievable the way some parents think a height “requirement” is just a “suggestion”

Jeanne 1 year ago

I agree with 90% if this, but want to mention something about places where you HAVE to be with your child. When my son was very young and still nursing, my dad, who lived 1800 miles away, had a major heart attack and it wasn’t certain he’d live. I had to bundle my non-walking child and fly to be with my family. Through Atlanta. In order to catch the next flight, I had to pack in a hurry and forgot a bunch of stuff, including a bunch of stuff that would have made it a lot easier to keep him quiet.

I remember that when I encounter a ill-behaved child in public. We don’t always get to choose where and when we are someplace with our child. And, sometimes kids get tired, hungry, cranky. And sometimes, it’s impossible to settle them down and sometimes the choice is to play the video without the headphones to avoid the far more annoying meltdown. Our world used to be a lot more child-friendly. (I agree on the weddings, the late night bars, the fancy restaurants, the movies (exception – the few remaining drive-ins), and the amusement park rides though.)

Alyssa 1 year ago

It’s no one else’s fault that you aren’t comfortable leaving your kids with a babysitter. That is your choice. I was uncomfortable leaving my kids with a babysitter for years, so when family wasn’t available I stayed home. When my kids got to the age where I was comfortable with trying out a babysitter, I tried out several babysitters before I found one that I liked. I still don’t leave them with a babysitter often for cost reasons, but I save up an appropriate amount for when I want to get out. If I want to make it happen, I’ll make it happen. Finding a reliable and affordable babysitter is not that difficult. I love my children, but I don’t feel an overwhelming need to have them attached to my hip 24/7. Also, not getting out alone with you significant other on occasion can be harmful to a relationship. The point of the article isn’t to be anti-children. It’s anti-adults-who-think-the-world-should-bow-to-their-every-whim.

Mike 1 year ago

WTF Alice? How do you know who owns what? The rule is there for the safety of the toddlers. Do you only care about toddler safety when the toddler is yours?

Lynn 1 year ago

I dine at some of the best restaurants in the world on a regular basis and have only ever not taken my children to one restaurant. My kids sit through 3 hour dinners on a regular basis and eat things most adults in America don’t eat so I think there are exceptions to every rule. I would however always respect the wishes of a wedding and would never try to take my kids to a place that was strictly adults only. I will say in NYC that almost all restaurants have bars and I have no problem taking my children to them. Not everyone has terribly behaved children that can’t be taken nice places. My 9 month old sits and eats nicely through an hour plus dinner, as long as she has food and water of course.

Krys 1 year ago

Sorry, not everyone is a perfect parent like you. When I was a new mom and having problems calming my son, a more experienced parent nicely offering some advice was welcome. The husband was polite about offering some advice on calming a baby. If everyone had your attitude, then new parents wouldn’t benefit from advice of those who have been there. It’s not always a bad thing, you know.

Krys 1 year ago

That comment wasn’t directed at just talking to your children. It was directed at the people who talk in the loud sing-song voice, the one that screams “look at me and my child!!!” Those are usually the people who have major issues going on behind the scenes and are trying extra hard to put on that perfect facade.

Layla Oates 1 year ago

Actually most bars and pubs in the UK only welcome children during the day, I think legally under 14s are not allowed in the bar area after 8pm. There might be a separate ‘family room’. I have 3 kids and I agreed with the article, I like my children to learn how to behave. Plus, I LOVE Adult Only invites! What a great chance to have a fun night out

Jenny Wonder-Tart 1 year ago

“The moral of the story is that you and your offspring aren’t that special.”

I want to cross stitch that and hang it on the wall.

Mindi spenner 1 year ago

I don’t think that’s what the author means here. It’s the parents that don’t prepare or try anything. For instance, my friend just went ona flight and she said the parents seated themselves ina different row from the children. How do you think that went? When I travel with my 4 kids, I don’t expect perfection but you can bet I have a bag of tricks- videos, headphones, toys, snacks- the GOOD stuff- not apples and crap I bet you do the same. People see me working it- like you do. They see you working it. When they see a parent have drink first thing, hand their kid a DVD and then check out for the rest of the flight- that’s when they deserve some hatin’. It is an enclosed space. It is stressful for kids. It is our job to entertain them and work the flight. If we ignore them, it will go to hell. It sucks but it is what we have to do. I envy the businessperson who has that drink and settles in- but whatever. I can’t promise quiet from my kid but I will try to keep my kid from kicking the seat by engaging with them- may or may not stop them but at least I tried. I bet this is you too. This is the difference about which the author is speaking.

KB 1 year ago

The people who are self-entitled are the ones expecting rules to be bent for them simply because they have a child. THAT is entitlement. Expecting people who live in a society to not be obnoxious jerks because they are too lazy to parent is NOT entitlement.

KB 1 year ago

^YES. Everyone has an excuse why they should be excepted from the rules. Well then why have rules? Just let it be anarchy, right? Aaarrrggghhhhh enough already with excuse making.

And people who have no support system need to seek one out. Go to a park, meet other parents, offer to trade watching each other’s kids.

KB 1 year ago

If that baby is fussing for mete than about 3 minutes, one of the adults with it needs to bring the baby outside. Yes, babies cry. We all know it, we all live with it. But I find it super rude to disrupt other people’ meals for several minutes because you can’t haul your ass up from the table and take the baby outside/to the lobby/whatever. I always took any fussy baby I was with out when they got fussy.

Caroline Lambert 1 year ago

But, rules are rules and laws are laws.

Caroline Lambert 1 year ago

Pubs in England=babies and children welcome, bars in U.S. ….can’t even eat at the bar with your baby even if all of the tables in he restaurant are taken… That seems a little silly to this Brit. Especially when it was a restaurant that considers it’s food to be the kind that doesn’t travel well and won’t even do take out. Lol.

Cassie 1 year ago

I too, am a teacher, and students who think that sitting in my classroom earns them an “A” is my absolute biggest educational issue. Entitled children come from entitled parents. This has been proven, over and over again.

Cassie 1 year ago

If what you say is accurate, and the bride and groom really were trying to “only eliminate” your children from their guest list (which I doubt is true-yet another example of your irrational opinion that every decision others make, is about you), I can see why. If your children are anything like their mama, then they too are entitled brats who think the world revolves around them. Not the kind of guests I would want on the day that was supposed to be about me and my hubby.

Kim 1 year ago

i wish there was a sign i could hand out to parents when i get on planes that says, “I will be glad to hold/walk/entertain your kids if need be.” Sometimes parents just need a break.

however, if you just read the in-flight magazine while your kids screamed bloody murder, that’s a whole other issue in itself.

Kim 1 year ago

great. then this article is for you.

Kim 1 year ago

But if the parents aren’t helping, then what can you do? they’ll just bite your head off.

Kim 1 year ago

yup. that’s exactly what is happening. i hear 20-year-olds at work, yelling at their bosses because of the mistakes they’ve been called out on. they’ve never had to handle being wrong or at fault, but that doesn’t translate too well to the workforce.

Joanna Anderson 1 year ago

Ugh….I can’t believe you can’t see how self-entitled you sound in this article. I am disappointed that Scary Mommy would publish an article that exudes so much judgement. Maybe because Lily just has one child. I’m guessing she will sound less like a stuck up mommy after her second.

Kim 1 year ago

maybe they didn’t want just your kids at that wedding for a reason.

Shaylyn Loertscher 1 year ago

ha ha ha. I had someone bring a child to our kids free wedding. I did not even notice until I was looking at pictures after. But, i was there to get hitched to the hubby, not police my event. But, I would have been upset had I even noticed.

Sophia 1 year ago

So basically you’re one of the douches that this article is talking about. I would have kicked you and your little shit bags out if it was my wedding.

Amber Marie Schnell 1 year ago

Ugh. The movie theater.

I used to work at a theater that served food and alcohol in the theater, and even though children under 12 were not allowed at the theater AT ALL except on Tuesdays and at kids’ movies, you would not believe the number of parents who would sneak their babies into the theater and hide them under the tables that I had to quickly run stuff between…in the dark.

Ya know, because my idea of a fun day at work is stepping on babies’ heads and/or dropping knives, heavy/hot plates and food, or pint glass on them.

And yes, they all complained and argued when they were kicked out.

MB5 1 year ago

As an elementary school teacher in an affluent area I have seen it all when it comes to people thinking they and their darlings are privileged. I adore children and LOVE my job in general. This handful of people have given an entire neighborhood a bad reputation in the school. Teachers actually groan when they see the address of a student is in this neighborhood. We’ve actually had a parent to call and complain to the principal because her child didn’t choose the lunch entree she wanted him to have. Really? You think the principal of a school with over 800 students is going to check in with you everyday, then go to lunch with your child to select his entree? Teachers have actually been told by parents that they are to never tell their child no and they are to be allowed to do as they please in class. Needless to say these “parents” get their feelings hurt on a regular basis. Their children are NOT given special treatment in class, they either gain independence or struggle.

Mame 1 year ago

What about the backstory of all the people who you ignoring by bending the rules for you and your kids? Maybe the person seat your kid is kicking is on the way to bury their father? Or maybe the person at the movies who is looking for a little escapism did leave their kid at home to relax and now has someone else’s kid running up and down aisles screaming. Or maybe someone wants a romantic dinner with their partner before they are being deployed for a year and doesn’t want a kid screaming the theme song to his.her favorite show all during dinner. That’s the point of this article. Parents don’t deserve special treatment above all others. Follow the rules and use good common sense while navigating in society. Full stop.

Mame 1 year ago

Again, the article is about parents thinking they are special and deserve not to follow the rules. And you gave a great example. How about a non-parent who maybe has a bladder infection or who is feeling tired from being up all night caring for a sick parent, should they too then be an exception? And then where do the exception end? Why do parents get to the head of the line or to use a bathroom that is not designed for them? Being a parent does not push you to the top of society and it shouldn’t. MOST people are parents.

Claudia Medrano 1 year ago

1. You got up twice at the movies. Why? If you’re child was getting fussy then obviously that bothered someone especially if it was during a more quiet scene.

2. Nobody is complaining about a baby onboard a plane. They’re bothered how a parent acts when their kid misbehaves or fusses on a plane.

3. A bar in the U.S is not the same as a bar in Europe. Please don’t compare. I’m pretty sure most bars in the U.S have a 21 and over sign for a reason. Not to mention the writer asked, “why would you want to expose your child to that.”

4. Maybe you shouldn’t take your husband to fancy restaurants.

The author isn’t saying that all kids out after 1900 are rotten or the parents. What she is saying is that many parents think they are entitled to do as they please simply because they have a child. It shouldn’t be that way. There are rules for a reason. If everyone has to follow they then so should you. It’s called being civilized.

Felicia 1 year ago

I agree with Claire too. I have a 2 year old. If I was invited to a wedding of someone close enough to me that did not want young children, then I would not bring my 2 year old. Respect the people getting married and their wishes on this one day. I would opt not to bring my child if I were offended by my 2 year old not getting invited.

Mame 1 year ago

An article you missed the point of. You’re not special. You don’t get to infringe on other people because you decided to have a child. You taking your 3 month old to a night time adult movie is inappropriate. Sorry if your child can’t sleep. Those people in the movie paid for that movie, not to listen to your baby cry and scream.

Mame 1 year ago

And you made the decision to have that child in the situation you’re in. I didn’t have a say in your choice. So don’t bring that child to a venue, that’s not appropriate for children, and where maybe I’m unwinding from something to – a sick parent, a tough job, a break-up. That’s the point of this article. You being a parent doesn’t make you anymore special than anyone else.

Mame 1 year ago

What’s rude are parent who expect people to cater to their children, family or not. So a bride and groom should give up their dream wedding so you can bring your children?

Mame 1 year ago

Unfortunately, that’s the decision you made when you decided to become a parent. Not everyone got to be in on that decision, so when they have events, they get to decide who attends.

Should-be-working 1 year ago

Hm… I don’t think I can agree to a hard-and-fast rule like that. My kids (school-aged and older, not toddlers) appreciate a good $100 a plate dinner too. They also know how to behave in a fancy restaurant, how to speak, how to order politely, how to navigate to the bathroom without disturbing anyone, and how to engage in conversation at the table. Agreed that a child without these skills, or who’s parents are willing to pay the same $100 price tag, shouldn’t be in a high-end restaurant. But to say “no one”? Maybe a little bit too far.

Should-be-working 1 year ago

We all know that babies cry. We’ve all been there. It’s how you react that separates you from “them”. If you ignore it, if you shrug your shoulders and look away, then yes, people will be annoyed. But if you try to distract her, if you talk or sing softly, if you play with toys, if you feed her, burp her, standing and bounce, snuggle her… Whatever you can do that might help, then most people will look with sympathy and understanding. And my babies loved trains, so you might not have an issue at all. Oh, and apologies if your baby is a boy — just have girls on the brain today.

Should-be-working 1 year ago

The phrase you need is, “I’m so sorry but this a a women-only shower” or “I’m so sorry but I can only accommodate the number of people I invited” or “My home is not safe for young children”. As a host, you can and should say no if given the opportunity. I wouldn’t ever turn someone away at the door (tempting as it is sometimes), but when they tell you in advance, oh h*** yes you can say something!

Should-be-working 1 year ago

If the kids weren’t misbehaving, and the parents weren’t demanding things be changed to accomodate them, why does it matter if they were at the bowling alley or the time of night? Perhaps the family keeps a night-owl schedule because of a parent’s work schedule. Perhaps they were homeless. Whatever. But the article is about parents not following rules (OK, if the alley specifically had “adults only” time, that would make this a problem) and/or not being actively involved in parenting in some of the “maybe” situations. What you are describing is simply judging that children shouldn’t be out late at night. As long as it wasn’t causing a problem, not your concern.

Kimberly 1 year ago

I am with you 100% there, Amber. Who wouldn’t want to have a day without the kiddos. I probably wouldn’t take them anyway even if they had allowed children. My parents certainly didn’t take us anywhere like a wedding until I was six and that was only because I was a flower girl.

Tara Alsop 1 year ago

Hahahahaha, so passionate!!

Should-be-working 1 year ago

Probably a good thing that not all weddings are like that! “Wedding” covers everything from casual stand-up-in-the-park to the black tie event you describe.

Tara Alsop 1 year ago

Does it really matter Elizabeth?! A bar is where alcohol is served. You cannot control how much alcohol is going to be consumed by the ADULTS in the bar-I’m baffled why you would choose to take your child into this environment. Again-your wants ahead of their needs. No kid wants to hang out at a bar.

Julia Myers Zorzi 1 year ago

A fussy baby in a family restaurant–no biggie. The thing that bothers me is people who let their kids do clearly inappropriate things. Real life example: we went to an expensive restaurant on valentines day. Someone let their 2 kids (approximately 5 and 7) literally run through the restaurant, steal food off of other people’s tables (ours included) and deliberately trip a waiter with a full tray. When the manager went to talk to them about having their kids stay seated, the mother went ballistic and demanded that the manager comp their checks!

Should-be-working 1 year ago

Actually, a crying infant mostly just needs to be picked up out of the carrier. That will usually take care of the problem. At least it’s making an attempt to fix things — like at least trying to distract a restless toddler on a plane. But I do agree that the manager could have approached the mom. My line was usually something like “Your child seems very unhappy. Is there something we could do to help? Perhaps he just needs a cuddle?”

Should-be-working 1 year ago

With the possible exception of a public restroom with a long line and a potty-training or newly potty-trained toddler. I think that was the only time I cut to the front of the line. But I did apologize and explain. Not that it makes it right, but occasionally there should be exceptions. :-)

Brittany Londergan 1 year ago

The place I was referring to was not designated by age but by height. It was designed for 48″ and under. So the big kids were running around crazy and parents aren’t even watching because they are bigger. Meanwhile, they are making it wildly unsafe for my little girl to play.

Tara Alsop 1 year ago

A bar’s main purpose is to serve alcohol to socialising adults-why in hell would you think it’s okay to take a kid into that? More importantly-why would you want to? It’s just selfish. You’re putting your wants ahead of their needs.

Julia Myers Zorzi 1 year ago

While that’s true, I remember being the 5 year old who was too tall to do things all the other kids my age could do. My mom didn’t tell me to use the equipment anyway or fight with the staff. She told me that the rules are there for a reason and directed me to the stuff I could do. The end!

hjames 1 year ago

It doesn’t matter if your husband was an experienced father of 25 children, no other parent has to follow his “expert” advice. They WERE trying and unsolicited advice is rude.

Danielle Alyc 1 year ago

3. I took my toddler to Hooters once…

Stepford Cindy 1 year ago

I just don’t have the patience and yes, I have (well-behaved) kids. I find myself trying to “help” the parents by giving the kids dirty looks, shaking my fingers at them, and saying “No” to them in a stern voice. The parents do nothing but allow me to co-parent. LOL!! I know that I am taking a big risk, reprimanding a child, but in my case it seems to work for the parent and the child.

Andrea Harvey 1 year ago

Sooooo, right. What ticked me off was at my son’s elementary school. There was one entrance into the parking, both for school buses as well as parents/visitors, but there were also clearly marked signs saying “LEFT – buses and teacher parking only” “RIGHT – Parent drop-off / Visitor Parking”. But, nooooo, we had and still have parents that think their precious little kids are going to die if they have to walk 10 more feet from the Parent Parking Lot to the front door and so they stop at the first side walk to the door on the “Bus only” parking lot, blocking the school buses trying to drop off kids as well as other parents trying to turn into the only entrance into the parking lot. And then you have to also contend with the idiots (some of the teachers at the school) that think the “EXIT ONLY DO NOT ENTER” sign doesn’t apply to them and they are going against traffic. Now you have to watch out for kids darting out between parked cars and oncoming traffic – in a PARKING LOT. Rant over!

Shane Martin 1 year ago

I will say, as one who is not a parent, I can only speak as being the guy on the other side of the “kicked” seat. I fly, a lot, and have had my share of restless children and feel nothing but compassion for those parents-I have never experienced a parent who doesn’t want or tries to do nothing at all, and feel the embarrassment that they must feel-we don’t know their situations or any conditions that the child may or may not have. Take it as it comes, we all take our chances-kids are kids. I would hate for you to be on the receiving end if it was your kid to be “acting up”. Get over yourselves. Life is too short, if this bothers you that much then find some other form of transportation because I wouldn’t want to ride with you anyway. Have a little compassion and show some understanding.

Ashley B 1 year ago

My parents took my sister and I everywhere they went, including many events and establishments where we were the only children, but that was because we had been taught from a very young age to sit quietly, speak when spoken to, and politely address others. I wouldn’t want to ban children from establishments and events, but I’ve experienced firsthand disruptive, rude behavior with no attempt from the parentals to correct it. It gets old, when time and time again you are subjected to screaming, tantrums, messes, and rudeness that you would not have to endure if mommy or daddy would just take the situation in hand. I recognize that there are sometimes unavoidable factors that come into play, but most of my bad experiences could have been avoided with a firm reprimand.

Ashley B 1 year ago

Yes! The running around in inappropriate locations is very tiresome. My husband and I were finally able to enjoy our anniversary dinner two weeks late due to busy work schedules. We went to a high-end restaurant at Epcot in Disney World late at night. We expected there to be a quiet, enjoyable atmosphere, but instead got to experience the chaos of undisciplined children. There was a dance floor area directly next to our table meant for entertainment and performances. As the night got later, it slowly filled with bored children, who were dancing, tumbling, singing, and twirling light up toys. At first we were glancing around to see if their parents hadn’t noticed, but after a while it became apparent that no one was going to do anything, and more parents allowed their barefoot children, from three to thirteen, to start using the space as their personal play area. We ended up leaving as soon as we finished our main course. I’m not against children in public, but I prefer them to be respectful, and for the parents to be sensitive to the situation. All the world is not a playground.

AN 1 year ago

I don’t see what is so wrong with talking to my child in public… I do it all of the time, both with my two year old and my 4 month old. It isn’t for anyone’s benefit but ours and I can’t help if other people can hear us. I don’t think ANYONE can talk quietly enough that NOBODY can hear them.

How bitter do you have to be to “hate” people who talk to their kids in public? Or who look at their children adoringly? WTF?

Claire Webster 1 year ago

Haha, hate those people.

Claire Webster 1 year ago

Wow. How rude are you. You were invited to someone’s wedding and then you decide you’ll bring your uninvited children! When its your wedding and your footing the bill then you decide. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Nuru 1 year ago

#5 is simple, if you can’t take advantage of a mandatory date night just stay home. There is a reason for it, I know when I was planning my wedding venues charge big money for kids meals $12-25 per kid! Thankfully we only had 2 small kids invited and neither of them ended up eating their meals.

The one that drives me nuts is letting the kid push the cart or stroller in the middle of a congested space. Just stop it! It’s not cute.
Not to mention the parents who shut off the minute their kid is in public YOU ARE STILL IN CHARGE OF YOUR CHILD! I am not; not at the park, not at the pool, not at the mall/store; I have my own child to tend to. It’s not adorable when she pushes my kid down so she can play in the exact 2 square feet of the other wise empty sandbox my kid is in, it’s not OK your kid is doing cannon balls in the shallow end by the babies and little kids in floaties, and it surely is my place to keep you kid from finding out where the belt goes at the end of the escalator.

Savannah Soule 1 year ago

She didn’t mean that you can’t have your child in a public transportation, as she did state, she ment those parents which allow their children abrupt the other passengers like you see in movies. Its fine to have your child on a bus/train ect. Its just rude to allow then to kick someones seat, scream or run around like little rug rat brats…… bars are for people who want to ussuelly get drunk, there is no ban on baby and mom going out and being social but bars are made for 21 and older, you don’t want 16 year olds getting drunk and possibly sleeping around w strangers so why have your child grow up around such environments that teach then to do so…… I have met people who grew up in bars ect and let me tell you, have are either pregnant or in prison and ha e lots of emotional and anger problems. I believe you are the one being ignorant and obviously very self defensive….. I think cps might need to make another house call. I work for and with children daily for foster agencies and let me tell you bars aare nit safe environments for baby’s I have horror stories and that also includes “fancy” bars.

Jenny 1 year ago

Everything except #6 right on. Let’s not bash traveling parents. No one knows what proceeded any given interaction when you meet a traveling parent. Who’s to say the mom that seems unattentive or unprepared has’nt been traveling from Alaska to Florida for more then 20 hours because she has to attend a funeral and had no one to watch the kids. I pretty much always give traveling parents the benifit of the doubt and try to be helpful when possible.

Terri Lindsey 1 year ago

I would like to add about parents bringing young children to adult concert where there is lots of drinking, people making out, lewd dancing, and rough language. I know the child might like who is performing and tmay be perfect acceptable to listen to on the radio but don’t expose them to adult behavior at the venue

Weberly 1 year ago

About 6 years ago we had a death in the family. It was requested that little kids stay home. Of course it was my children that they were excluding (trust it was not because of age) my 2 year old twins weren’t wanted at their great grandfathers funeral. They absolutely adored him. I’m well aware that since they were so young they weren’t hurt by it but it also forced my husband and BIL to not be able to go. Once again weeding out the people of color down to me. He loved us and we loved him…but every one of us was hurt by that. And if anyone wants to know I COULD take my girls to movies starting at 6 mos. you wouldn’t believe the surprised looks on peoples faces when not one but 2 babies walked out …they could sit for hours through anything and everybody knew that. What made it so hurtful? Watching big kids ,I’m talking 9-10 yrs old run around his funeral. Yes ,run around. They were strangers, never met him, never sat on his lap or reached up to him to get held. But his twins that he was SO proud of sat in the parking lot. Sometimes people do just make no little kid rules to hurt other people. I should have took them.

Nicolette Jenkins 1 year ago

Public transportation? Seriously??? And what exactly do you propose people with children do when they need to go places?

Donna James Vargo 1 year ago

Love it!!!

Alexis 1 year ago

Unless a restaurant is adults only (because it’s a bar! In WA they will turn you away if you try to bring a baby in) it’s perfectly fine to bring kids in. It’s best to try and keep them distracted so they’re at an appropriate volume for the restaurant. But we’ve taken my daughter (just turned 1) to ‘fancy’ restaurants like steakhouses and crab houses (she loves steak, meh on crab) and through distraction with Cheerios & mamas boobs, she’s not any louder than normal conversation.

Beth 1 year ago

Are you privy to their entire guest list? Do you personally know the family structure of every guest at the wedding? If not, how do you know that only your kids were excluded. Perhaps other guests had the class to either leave their kids at home, or if they couldn’t or didn’t want to get a sitter, perhaps they didn’t attend the wedding.

Dee Stevens Shandera 1 year ago

Two more places children 5 and under should not be: live theatrical presentations and Disneyland. Under the age of five they are easily bored, have short attention spans, have very little, if any, bladder control, and have no clue what’s going on around them.

Cheryl 1 year ago

Aren’t you the sexist one? These were ALL single women? Maybe these were men and just stupid!

Cheryl 1 year ago

I was at a Food and SPIRITS festival. It was an over 21 event and they checked everyone’s ID. However, there were children present…..one of the vendors brought them. Why would you??

Kuniko Okuda 1 year ago

This is not about how kids behave at those places. This is about if it’s appropriate to bring kids to those places. Bars are for adults to drink alcohol. Kids don’t belong there. If a movie is rated R, kids don’t belong there.

Khirsten 1 year ago

I had my manager pass away from cancer while I was on mat leave. I would have really like to attend the funeral, but I had a very cranky 6 month old at home who was dealing with his first cold and would only breastfeed. I felt I made the clear choice to stay home from the funeral and to tend to my child. Unfortunately my co-workers decided that I had done something selfish and unforgivable. I was promptly told that one of the doctors I worked for brought her three year old, so I should have just packed up my child and done the same. I asked if this doctor’s child sat through the service quietly, and was told ” Of course not, she is only three.” Needless to say this was the last time I spoke to these people.
I really think the concept of good manners and respect for your fellow man has fallen far down the list of many peoples priorities.
I constantly tell my boys I am raising gentleman. This means I have to role model good behaviour and I also have to be aware of their stage of development and make decisions based on that. You don’t have to read that in a parenting book, it’s just good old common sense.

K M 1 year ago

That’s horrible! What a great example you are to your children. People are allowed to make rules for THEIR events. If you don’t like it, then don’t attend.

Kellie Metzenheim 1 year ago

Someone sure does ❤ the bars lol

Anonymous 1 year ago

While I agree with the sentiments, I think the tone sounds self righteous. That woman who brought he three month old to the movies? Has no support system, has no one to watch her baby and was about to rip her own face off from postpartum hormones and it was actually the first time she felt like her horror loving self in 3 months. That woman who brought her kid to the bar? Her babysitter had to go get treated for some contagious disease and it was the only time she and her college buddy could get together and root for the world cup. The wedding? It was the only time the whole family was together and she really wanted her kids to meet their great aunt bee. The ride one is ridiculous. Safety is safety and your an arse if you do that. The lady on the plane? Her mother just died and she’s so wrapped up in her own emotions and grief her kid jumping up and down on the seat pales in comparison to losing her mom and best friend. We need to be supportive of one another. Like I said, I sit at the pool making sure my kids don’t splash, yell, or drown and I’m not the bar hopping type, but we need to know the back story before we are judges wudgeys

Liz Powers Jones 1 year ago

The goal at the end of the parenting marathon is NOT to raise assholes. Its quite obvious that several of the commenters own parents failed at this….the asshole cycle will continue.

Lisa Strzepek 1 year ago

Yes. And yes.

Maggie S. 1 year ago

Amen and amen. So well stated. Parenting isn’t for the faint of heart, and you’re right. This kind of behavior isn’t parenting. I just had this conversation last night, with my daughters who are 17.

Lisa Handley Sully 1 year ago

There are stupid parents I agree and yes some really piss me off but we also need to be careful how quickly we judge others.
The old saying of walking in another’s shoes before judging is good advice . Sometimes people are walking a very fine line of not coping and we can’t see the whole picture.
And show some kindness because being nasty is just as bad as being one these of these so called ” entitled” parents :-)

Sherri Williams 1 year ago

I don’t even have any children but there so many things wrong with this article. No one has control of their environment in a public place. I watched a girlfriend of mine almost in tears because her son was being fussy and we were in a family restaurant. Why is it that the jerk that have a problem with this baby fussing deserve to be there any more than we do. your stares and comments make me feel uncomfortable, maybe you should leave. Just stay focused on your conversation with you were stuck up friend and leave us alone. bringing a crying baby to a horror flick at midnight yeah that’s another thing, not equal to being in a restaurant with a fussy baby. People just need to chill out. You never know what that parent or child has been through that day. Just STOP judging!

Feelings 1 year ago

As a stay at home mom who used to be a nurse. I would help you :)
Thank you for this post. I agree with everything you said and you’ve made me realize that I could be of service to parents like you who need a break like everyone else.

Jolyn Shetler Humberson 1 year ago

Bringing kids/babies to a bar = trashy. No reason you need to be in a BAR with a child. Grow up. And why are small children in Walmart after 12 am? Sleeping laying on the hard metal cart? I’ve had to stop there after work & always see quite a few kids there that late. So your telling me you had no time all day to go to a store. Bullshit. And I’m sure a lot of these people don’t even work.

Feelings 1 year ago

Although I agree with some of the points made here I think we live in a cold world when we don’t recognize mothers for the job they are doing at creating the next generation. Instead of merely viewing them as “popping them out”. I feel for parents who feel they have to restrict they’re lifestyle because of attitudes like this.
I was clearly pregnant and with my toddler and needed to use a washroom and told by the clerk at the store they were for staff only. As I watched an employee walk out of the washroom and ignore me I had to leave the store I was so disappointed that “silly rule following” can make us heartless to another’s needs.
Go to Spain and you’ll see how children are anticipated and recognized. Play parks everywhere for their entertainment and playgrounds in a town square with restaurants all around so that everyone can enjoy themselves. This is how I have experienced ideal. We treat children in our culture as if they are a nuisance unless they behave they way we want. It’s their nature to want to play.
Be kind and understanding to each other. Whether your the rule follower or the “jerk” parent you refer to. We all have a better person we can be.

KB 1 year ago

But this article isn’t about you. Because you are obviously a considerate person.

Please look into respite services – they can be written into your child’s IEP or the physician can make a case your insurer. And talk to other special needs parents. Maybe you can join forces so every couple gets a night out a few times a year. You all need it!

Shannon Aileen 1 year ago

I am so disappointed by this article and the responses. Truly. The only thing I can do is unlike this page. For those of you who feel elevated by this article, good luck to you. True inspiration comes from insight, understanding, compassion and positive encouragement, not bashing others.

Alison 1 year ago

YES. Thank you for this.

Demra Landa Arce 1 year ago

Uhmm… Anyway. If people would just have rules for their kids then none of this would be a problem. The end.

Nara 1 year ago

Just to be clear: I’m feeling judged because I’m NOT breaking the rules, just that the people who make vocal judgements aren’t looking close enough to see that.

odbowes 1 year ago

This article isn’t ‘judgy’; it’s about following rules (in certain situations), using common sense, minding one’s children, and showing respect and courtesy for others. If someone has a special needs child, they know how their child will most likely respond in situations. While it may seem unfair that they not attend certain functions, they should still have the foresight to realize that their child may have problems. In addition, I didn’t see this blog post as saying anything about children with disabilities. It is addressing parents who are disrespectful towards others by demonstrating that they feel like they are entitled or special enough that rules, requests, and basic social respect don’t apply to them and their children..

Nara 1 year ago

I feel just a wee bit judged by this article… I have a son with special needs, and you would be amazed how many people will make glance judgements about how we’re “not special” when my son is in a stroller in a line at Disney World (we have a clearly displayed wheelchair tag from Disney), when I’m parked in the disabled parking or bus lane (because that’s where the principal wants me to park for pick-up, because we do hand-to-hand off), when my son throws a massive meltdown in a store. It’s not because I think I’m better than other people or that my kid is a “snowflake” (hear the contempt there), its because these things are called accommodations, I do the absolute best that I can, and people like to make judgements without knowing the facts. Yes, I sound defensive, but honestly, I feel pretty defensive too. Its hard not to take these articles personally when I’ve heard that said in real life.

PS. I don’t go to movies, weddings, adult parties, etc. not because we’re not willing to pay for a babysitter, but because we can’t find one. You try to find an evening/weekend childcare provider who can handle infant twins and a six year old, dosing a bunch of medications, and handling seizures.

KB 1 year ago

But if your kid can’t handle sitting for a meal in Applebee’s and has to run amok and knock into servers and bother other customers and throw food and scream for attention because you’re ignoring their display, why would French Laundry be appropriate? And why does your kid have to go EVERYWHERE with you? No one is saying you can’t ever go to a better restaurant, just don’t go with your kid.

And you start teaching your kid how to behave in the would at home. If they can’t sit at the table for a meal there without disruption, they won’t be able to do it in a restaurant.

Mark Kopp 1 year ago

Yes indeed I am not special but what makes you?

Cris Thompson 1 year ago

I’ve called out lazy parents who let their kids run buck crazy like wild animals. I let them know under no uncertain terms, if they cant get their kid under control, I can. Always fixes the problem….. and gets a shaky voice apology from the parent. 😉

Aint nobody got time for dat!

KB 1 year ago

What could be going on that you take your kid to a wedding they aren’t invited to? A 4 star restaurant? A 10pm showing of an R rated movie? Oh, your sitter cancelled? Well then you cancel your plans.

Read Class 1 year ago

The author is CLEARLY not discussing children with special needs- in fact, the author doesn’t seem to be discussing children at all, rather the focus is on parenting (or lack thereof). Any parent who makes a good faith effort to help they child act appropriately in society isn’t included in this post.

Nara 1 year ago

I’m not agreeing. I have 6 month old twins. I go to family restaurants with my friends and their kids, because, they’re family restaurants. I calm them and feed them at the table. If I took a twin outside every time they fussed I would never get to eat.

Michelle Fernetti Iversen 1 year ago

I can’t stand those people who think the rules don’t apply to them. You summed it up so well.

Melissa Jordan 1 year ago

I will keep my children out of nicer restaurants when they kick out loud adults who’s laughter echos off all the walls in the place. Adults can be loud in nice restaurants but kids are expected to not even show up? I am not spending 15 years of my life eating at burger and fry joints because others feel my kid making a small noise may interrupt their expensive meal. If you are in public expect noise. In turn I will do what I need to do to keep my kids entertained in that restaurant and if they start crying because of some tantrum or pinched finger I will take them to another room till they calm down. But I refuse to not attempt to bring them.

KB 1 year ago

The problem is that many, many, many parents DON’T do what you do and remove the child. Spend one month working in a catering hall and you’ll see what I mean. I’ve been hit and run into by kids while carrying trays of champagne flutes. Saw the ballon guy get spit on by a child who was trying to steal his equipment, and the father’s reply was “What do you want me to do, she’s a kid!”

tara 1 year ago

Maybe you should just stay home from now on. I find you to be tacky and rude

Ember 1 year ago

I will always have a very nasty scar from working at a Chevy’s. Parents let there kids run free and they decided to play round-the-waitress while I was carrying a tray of sizzling fajitas. One grabbed my legs to get to the other child and upended the tray. I managed to save the kids from getting hurt, but I wasn’t so fortunate. The parents didn’t seem to understand the big deal as the manager kicked them out and banned them, taking a photo to keep at the hostess stand for future reference. He told the parents they were lucky the kids weren’t hurt or that we didn’t call the cops.

Alison 1 year ago

Agree. It’s just teaching kids to be narcissist. No, you aren’t too special for the rules! 😉

Trene Remin 1 year ago

My older child was not able to sit quietly on a plane, either. Unfortunately, when my dad was dying we had to ride on a plane since my parents live on the other side of the Pacific ocean.

Not everything is a pleasure trip.

Katelyn Preston 1 year ago

Completely agree, some of these just require planning and forethought. Kids only behave in ways they have been allowed. If a kid is playing up but the rules were previously in place it doesn’t take much to remind them and settle them… My kids get a look, I don’t have to speak. The only place rules are relaxed is at home because they ought to have freedom in their own home (within reason). They play up and don’t stop in the past then I took them home, they know to stop because this punishment has happened plenty and they don’t want it.

chill 1 year ago

Ugh, I agree! When I was pregnant with the first child, we splurged on a big screen TV with the intent that we would be watching lots of movies at home!

chill 1 year ago

I agree! I specified no children at my wedding, so one of my cousins didn’t come. Totally fine with me if she didn’t want to get a babysitter.

Josie 1 year ago

Rite on! If more than just ur lil ones were under the age limit it would b understandable. It seems like u were singled out. I hate when certain family members act rude and single out kids just because of who they belong to. I would have done the same as u. It makes me angry when some of my family members single out my daughters bro cuz hes not my child and i am no longer with their dad. Or on her dads side they do it with my daughter which makes me even more angry cuz shes 100% blood.

Melissa Orr 1 year ago

Yes!! Everyone needs to read this. It should be mandatory for parenting

Jodi Geaslen 1 year ago

Yes! And Amen

Catherine Kenny 1 year ago

Absolutely 😀 I control my children. It’s called teaching them respect of others and modeling that behaviour.

Amber Nicole 1 year ago

Omg this cracked me up!

Taylor Marie Mochulsky 1 year ago

This article took the words out of my mouth. I am so sick of seeing parents act as if the rules don’t apply to them and their children. You’re not freaking special! And all those disagreeing and being offended are likely the exact parents whom the article is about. The world doesn’t revolve around you and your kids; get over yourself.

Krysia 1 year ago

For the record, the “you” in my reply is not directed to YOU personally, especially since you say you do remove your children when they act up. It is a to the general public you.

Krysia 1 year ago

I think you missed the theme of the article or maybe we are just reading it differently. I don’t see it as “Don’t let your child experience the world” but instead, don’t be that parent who thinks rules don’t apply to them and raise their children to ignore the rules as well. For example, you shouldn’t have a child out late at night just to see a movie. Either get a sitter or accept you may have to wait until it comes out on video. If you just can’t wait and a sitter is not an option for whatever reason, then don’t go to a showing that will most likely be crowded. And for God’s sake, if your baby is fussing/crying/doing anything that will disrupt the other patrons who have just as much right to watch said movie and who have also paid for a ticket, go out in the lobby until the child can behave. As for the bar, I am certain she is referring to bringing your child to the actual drinking venue, not the restaurant portion if the establishment is a bar/restaurant combo. I don’t see her as judging anyone except parents that don’t respect others.

Tally 1 year ago

Totally agree. As a parent you are responsible for your child learning right from wrong & no child gives a parent any right to ignore rules. Plus as a parent I want to be childless occasionally when I go out & I make that choice & location based on the fact that no other children will be there.

Luckily in the UK no-one gets in a cinema with a baby unless it’s an unclassified film. Taking a baby into a late showing is totally unacceptable.

Taylor 1 year ago

Sounds like you are definitely “that mom”

Krysia 1 year ago

Respectfully, I disagree. You are certainly welcome to accept or decline invitations as you wish but as someone who had a child free wedding, let me explain the rational. Our wedding was late in the evening with a 6:30pm ceremony and 7:30 dinner. This is past the average child’s bedtime and probably would have resulted in melt downs at the reception. Furthermore, it was a more adult event and would not have been suitable for children as there was nothing there to entertain them. The biggest reason we chose a child free event was stories from my parents’ wedding. Under pressure from family who, like you, believed weddings were a whole family affair, my parents allowed their very young nieces and nephews to attend. It was an unmitigated disaster with the children stealing the show on more than one occasion. My mother STRONGLY advised us to make our wedding kid free and I don’t regret it.

Liese Aucoin Homer 1 year ago

Yes!!

Taylor 1 year ago

Having children means sometimes you have to make sacrifices. And sometimes you miss out on things. Don’t be such an entitled asshole DM.

Harriet 1 year ago

Thank you for writing this article, there are so many rude, stupid adult sized BRATS out there that need to learn respect! You are brilliant!

Jill 1 year ago

YES! All of this. My pet peeve is the movie one…we hardly ever shell out the gazillion bucks a ticket to go to a movie and when we do, it always seems like someone has decided their toddler is a suitable member of the viewing audience for Rated R.

And, snort laugh at the “sun doesn’t shine out of their squishy little tushie”. I’m so using that. Probably on my kids.

Harriet 1 year ago

Rofl, douche canoe… now that is some funny shit…

Krysia 1 year ago

I don’t think she has a problem with children being brought out in public. I think her point is to make sure that it is an appropriate venue for them (ie. No late movies or super formal restaurants if your child can’t even behave in McDonald’s) or at least that you and your child are behaving appropriately no matter where you are. It would be impossible to never bring a child out in public so I doubt that is what she means. I’m sure you are very mindful of your children and despite your best efforts, you still end up with melt downs upon occasion. At least it sounds like you would be a mother who would attempt discipline. I think the author is addressing parents who would bring their children to an unsuitable venue and then fail to parent them.

Kylie 1 year ago

Agree. I’m nursing and don’t want to bottle feed. so I stay home or go to only kid friendly places. These are the sacrifices we must make as parents. There is plenty of time for adult only things later.

Genny Gedge Lenon 1 year ago

Love love love!!!

Rebecca Meinzer 1 year ago

I see this kind of entiltlement all the time!

GK 1 year ago

Don’t like the bride’s no under 5 year old policy? Then why did you even go?

Mf 1 year ago

I respond as a bride (in the last 2 years), as a mother (the last 8 months) and as a teacher (responding to your entitlement and that to which your children will have). I have no idea who you think you are exhibiting theses actions, but you really need to get over yourself.

hbombmom 1 year ago

With the matching super loud and high pitched sing song voice meant for everyone to hear. I instantly wonder what they’re trying to hide.

Kaylie Jones 1 year ago

Also, running around a restaurant acting children is normal of kids here. Kids are expected to act like kids, not tiny adults.

Kylie 1 year ago

My biggest park pet peeve! My 1 year old is already learning slides are for going DOWN!!!

Kylie 1 year ago

My mom likes to tell me about how she would sneak me onto rides by making my ponytail higher on my head so she could ride with her friends. Seriously! Her selfishness could have killed me. Another reason she won’t be babysitting! Lol

Beth 1 year ago

I agree with most of this, even if a lot of I t does sound like the complaints I hear from people who don’t have kids…. I can’t imagine people actually blatantly disregarding posted regulations, but a lot of the other gripes here are situational and hard to judge without more information….
My major issue is with number 3– I’m not trying to take my kid to the French Laundry (although I would bet they’d be accommodating), but I think it’s unreasonable to expect that parents resign themselves to Chuck E Cheese and, on a good night, Applebee’s until their kids are grown. First of all, ew gross. Secondly, how else will kids learn how to act in public places and around adults if they don’t ever experience it?

Annie 1 year ago

I definitely agree! Two things I thought of; sometimes (plane example) your kid who typically acts/responds/likes things one way (the way you prepared for!) can just completely freak out and it’s very difficult to regroup and think of solutions. Everyone has bad days, kids included. So of course we all need to try to be courteous, but also compassionate. Second, most bars in the states are inappropriate for children but in Germany they have these beer halls where the whole family can hang out, model responsible drinking, relax together, etc, and I kind of wish there were more of those here!

Amanda Kurecian 1 year ago

If I am paying over $100/person for dinner, then there should not be anyone in that restaurant under the age of 14.

cindy 1 year ago

My daughter asked no children at her wedding assuming people understood very young because she did not want her special day ruined by babies crying and screaming little ones.yes still people brought a tiny kid I thought it very rude to ignore this request.it shows a real lack of respect and maturity when people ignore rules

Melissa 1 year ago

I had a kid free wedding. I can tell you for certain if you had of turned up at my wedding with kids you would have been shown the door pretty quickly.
You are the rude one.

Jessica Vaughn-Martin 1 year ago

Love this article. So true. My daughter is 3.5 and although our world revolves around her, we try to make her realize others dont. I will say I find people often look down on kids being kids but it is my job as the parent ro remove or not place my kid in the poaition of disrupting others. It is not cute and their money/experience ia just as important as mine.

Elizabeth Simon Conway 1 year ago

Yuck this article is too judgy! Who knows what’s going on that day with that parent and why their child is with them at these places at certain times etc.

Bronwen Scerri 1 year ago

I’d have to agree with many of the posts here, this is a judgmental article. Many of us don’t feel comfortable leaving our little ones with others or it can be difficult if we don’t have people we trust who are free and live nearby. I’ve never taken my child to a bar or the cinema or a theme park but he has eaten with us in the pub bistro for family birthdays and been at restaurants with us and “adult” parties with the hosts permission. If he acts up we leave. We do get a babysitter when required but children need to experience what the world has to offer and learn how to behave in public. If they don’t get experience they will never learn. If the parents are prepared to watch them and leave if they do begin to be disruptive then I don’t see a problem. It depends entirely on the child and how they act in situations and at events. It is the parents responsibility to decide where they take their children and no one should judge without knowing the circumstances. There are very few people I would leave my child with.

anu 1 year ago

Oh god! Now I am feeling more anxious about my 3 months baby’s first train journey next week. I know people gonna stare me with disgust when my baby will cry and I will feel what a pathetic mother I am .

Kylie 1 year ago

To be fair, I also don’t really enjoy no kid weddings/parties. But, you must respect the person who is paying for it! I recently went to a no kid anniversary part and all us parents (the majority of the crowd) thought it was weird since the guests of honor had kids themselves, and the host loves kids. (I went only because I had special permission to bring my still nursing, not able to walk baby, otherwise I would have stayed home and sent dh by himself). We’ll upon arriving we all learned the party was next to a very busy road, outside with no fence at all. So lesson learned. When they say no kids it’s usually for a good reason!

KB 1 year ago

So you go someplace appropriate. Not a rated R movie, not a 4 star restaurant, not a wedding your kid wasn’t invited to.

And maybe you look into trading off watching a friend’s kids so they can watch yours.

Becca 1 year ago

I actually had a no small children baby shower! We decorated onesies and didn’t want a kid pulling a hot iron on their head, but I also just didn’t want a bunch of toddlers running around! I love kids, but i didn’t feel that was the place for them…

Deborah Ayers 1 year ago

Yeah! I especially loved this article as a person who never wanted children and can only tolerate them for a few hours. I say “Thank you!” And, by the way, I give parents who act like this the best dagger throwing glances I can, and I give their bratty children the alpha stare that makes them shut their gobs for at least a good minute before they realize I have no power over them.

Amey Bennett Agueda 1 year ago

This needs to be added .

Don’t be the parent that brings thier cranky. Or undisciplined child to a retail establishment and let them run wild. Pulling things off of the shelves knocking people over and generally disrupting . Also don’t be the parent that gives their child whatever they want Off of the shelf to” play” with and then dump it somewhere else in the store or with the cashier to take back . I had a lady give me a chewed on flower pin to put back . As if ? Really just tell kid “no” or don’t bring them . Not rocket science

Jenn Galbraith 1 year ago

❤️❤️❤️❤️

Heather Walshberry 1 year ago

And worse than movie theatres, live performance theatres. If your kid decides they’ve had enough, it’s not always easy to get out and you will definitely disturb the patrons and actors.

Kelsey 1 year ago

When my daughter was 9 months old we were invited to a friend’s wedding and the invite was not marked adults only so I sent our RSVP with all three of our names. The Groom contacted my husband and told him that children weren’t allowed but that there would be someone there to babysit the kids that did show up. Well I’m not ok with some stranger watching my 9 month old so we left her with my mom. Although I think “adult only” weddings are strange and I myself did not host such a wedding, far be it from me to say what others should do at their weddings. Also there were a lot of children there which made me mad.

Carmen Bradley Theel 1 year ago

I think what this plainly comes down in this article and that is being missed by those who are either offended or unhappy is that it’s REALLY NOT about the kids at all. Kids don’t make decisions adults do. Adults set the tone. Adults set boundaries. Adults can be jerks.

Amber 1 year ago

We have the same problem at my daughter’s elementary school. People park in the fire lane when dropping off their kids. I have gotten boxed in before and ended up late for work because of this. Have people always been this rude?

Shanna Richardson 1 year ago

This is how I feel reading these comments. I wholeheartedly agree that these entitled folks need a big ol’ dose of YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL….

Marcia Trent 1 year ago

I understand it’s not always easy for feasible to get a babysitter so parents can run errands, enjoy a night out, etc. I work retail and see either parents letting their kids (especially babies and toddlers) cry because it’s past their feeding and/or nap/bedtime and not doing anything about it that really upsets me. Please keep as closely as possible to your child’s routine. He will thank you for it and your experience when he’s awake will be much better. Also, parents who let their kids run wild in the stores, please don’t. Please teach them manners and respect. Also teach them that the display, rack of clothing or whatever else they are playing on is not theirs and you don’t want to have to pay for something they damage or a trip to the ER if they get hurt.

KB 1 year ago

Please explain to me how it is rude to not invite a child to a black tie wedding reception that starts at 7pm on a Saturday night. At $250 a plate. I have worked weddings where the main course wasn’t even served until 10:30. The wedding itself didn’t end til 1 in most cases. You really want to haul your sleepy kid around a wedding in an evening gown?

Alana Wood 1 year ago

This list = 100%…. Amuses me how peoples feathers get ruffled so quickly.

Amber 1 year ago

I love my kids, don’t get me wrong, but I would jump for joy if I were invited to ANYTHING where kids were banned for the night! Once in awhile it’s fantastic to have a night off. Look at these invitations as opportunities for stress-free grown up time! And, yes, it’s rude to bring kids to inappropriate places.

Ash 1 year ago

Yes, well, regardless of what we all agree is the line demanding fancy from family friendly, I think we all can agree that a screaming infants caregivers can take them outside or to the car until he or she has calmed down. That seems like common courtesy.

Rachel Ingle 1 year ago

Truth is I’m going to do all of these things. If I don’t do it, it’s because it’s not good for my kid, not because I’m afraid of what someone might think. They aren’t laws, or even rules. I’m going to try to make sure my child doesn’t disturb anyone, or ruin their enjoyment of the evening, but beyond that, I’m not going to give one flying fuck what you think.

Maritza Galdos-Smith 1 year ago

Preach!

Jocelyn Archaski 1 year ago

I know when I planned my wedding I realized that all my cousins combined had so many kids that I couldnt afford to pay the caterer for all of them. There was a tight budget. We were also uncomfortable with the idea of young children being at the reception because we tented a hall, hired the caterer separately, and brought the wine and beer ourselves. It was a casual serve yourself alcohol kind of situation and we didn’t want any small kids getting into it. The bottom line is if it is an adult only invite there is most likely a reason for it.

Michael A. Schulman 1 year ago

It’s not just parents. I used to travel weekly for work and there are many adults with out kids who act like this in public, especially the airport. The are so important they can skip the lines, kick seats, use other people luggage space, the list goes on and on. Flying with these entitled travelers makes unruly children loon good.

I agree with the list. Nothing annoys me more than these entitled parents except entitled business travelers. We work hard to teach our child to respect rules, and that everyone has a turn, and so on. So what if I’ve only seen one move in a movie in a theater in 2 years. It’s time with my child I will never get back.

Tricia Mathis 1 year ago

Love this!!

Jocelyn Archaski 1 year ago

I think all she is saying is that when we become parents our kids are our top priority, and they are our responsibility. Do I sometimes resent that I can’t go out on a Friday and get tipsy with my friends? Sure. I get a night maybe every two mts now if my husband is willing or my hubby and I get a date night once every couple of mts if one of the sets of grandparents is willing. This is what I signed up for when I became a parent. These are all common sense social rules….if there is specifically an adult only wedding, this means your child is not invited. If you’re going to a five star restaurant at 8 pm, don’t bring your child if they can’t behave. That’s not fair to the other patrons. If your child is running around the playground shoving or hitting other kids, stop them. Don’t sit on a bench off to the side on your smartphone. As far as the plane scenario…things sometimes go wrong. All we can do is our best.

Danielle Blough 1 year ago

I disagree with the wedding thing. Personally I find it very tacky to insist on an adult only reception. Weddings usually include families who were special enough to invite and bring you a gift and to tell them to leave the kids at home just isn’t right. I’ve gotten those before and honestly I decline.

Dinene Knighten 1 year ago

Wow. Common freaking courtesy. What a concept. Well written, mama.

Kellie Metzenheim 1 year ago

Wow…if you really can’t think of any other place other than a bar to take your child you got some issues!! At least drink at home inn the closet like the rest of us

Lindsay Hawkey 1 year ago

I completely agree with #2. When I lived in London, there was this run down dingy pub. Full of skanky girls, old perverts and cocaine in bathrooms (which the women’s 2 toilets had NO seats). I unfortunatly had to go in there on occasion to pick up a family member. I would see babies and toddlers in there far too often. The only sober people in there were the 2 barmaids and the children. It was a rough rowdy pub. I was horrified seeing a 4 year old sitting in spilt beer next to a wall with wallpaper hanging off the wall. Horror movie in real life. Keep your kids OUT of drinking establishments for kids sake!!!

Bec 1 year ago

I have kids, I generally respect rules and I generally expect others to respect rules. I have also been the mom with the screaming kids on the plane. At first glance it was only a 2 hour domestic flight. In reality it was my kids’ 5th flight in 35 hours of travel. They were just done and I had not slept in 2 days. We subjected ourselves and others to this torture because my husband wanted his family on the other side of the world to meet our kids. I’m sure people judged away. Some would say we shouldn’t have taken young children so far….. Our kids are not special to society but they are special to our family, their great grandma was happy to meet them once. They have not been back on a plane in 7 years.
I hope to raise them to respect people and rules, be a little slower to judge and treat people like they are special. We are all special to someone.

Kerri Chalmers 1 year ago

I take my kids where I want. If I’m going for a family meal at a restaurant, I go with my family. Kids included. I honestly couldn’t give a flying F if other people don’t like it.

Lindsey Savage 1 year ago

This whole post was about having respect for others. Why some of you are arguing that it’s a selfish thing to say, I will never understand.

My stepson has autism and adhd. We don’t take him to places he can’t handle or may be over stimulated in. It’s our job as parents to try to keep him out of situations that make him uncomfortable when we have the choice. It’s also our job as parents to make sure he doesn’t hurt anyone by being unaware of the consequences of his actions or ruin someone else’s experience by being at a place he has no business being.

I’m sorry, but when you become a parent there are things you just have to give up or learn to work around. No one is entitled to do everything all the time.

Jennifer 1 year ago

Your children crashed the wedding. Classy.

Tracy 1 year ago

My cousin also had a no kids wedding. My son was approximately 4 at the time. I really wanted to attend the wedding and was, personally, quite angry that they wanted me (and others) to hire a babysitter in order to attend their special day. Ultimately, it was THEIR day and not mine and I simply stayed home. I could have chosen to go without my son but in my situation it was hard to justify the expense of a babysitter. I could have chosen to take my son with me – yes it was always an possible choice as it would have been with anyone – but I wanted to attend the wedding because I respected my cousin. Showing up WITH my son would have been a huge disrespect to him and his bride. So, I stayed home. That was 12 years ago. I still wish I could/would have gone but I am still certain that taking my son (who has ALWAYS been a miniature adult in behavior) would have been wrong. In fact, this weekend is my grandmother’s birthday party and they are having a dinner without kids to celebrate. My daughter, 4, would be super well behaved should I take her. However, I will likely make the decision to stay home rather than hire a babysitter. I will probably go see my grandma another day and take my daughter with me THEN.

Lizzy 1 year ago

The fair is in town and I JUST witnessed an entire family (parents, aunts, uncles, grandparents) giving a ride operator hell for not letting a little girl who was too short ride. I was astonished at how many of them had beer or other alcoholic drinks in their hand as they argued that their precious little girl should get on a ride that she could be seriously injured on. The other kids who were appropriate size had to wait on the ride for the operator to tell the family for the hundredth time that she couldn’t get on. I said to my sister, “These people would be the first to sue after their little girl flew off this ride.” I am astonished at the stupidity of people.

Sarah Anderson 1 year ago

If the restaurant or bar allowed my kids to be there, I would have no problems bringing them in. I’ve done it on numerous occasions. Doesn’t make me a bad mom, nor have I ever had anyone complain about it. Just parent your kid, period. It’s more about the entitled parents who think their kids can do whatever they want and not need consequences when they act up.

Corinne 1 year ago

Totally agree with you! I do like this article, but it is a little bit judgemental. As a mother, you must teach your children to behave, but it is ridiculous to blame yourself for every little “bad” thing your son, mostly without meaning it, does.

Yeeesh 1 year ago

Looks like these replies are the spanking you need, dm. You sound like a living nightmare.

Cindy Meagher 1 year ago

I LOVE comments below the article – especially the first one from an idiot who disagreed with “adult only” weddings and took her kids anyway!!! 21 people tore her apart!!! Classic rude idiot. I LOVE my kids and grands but I totally agree with the author…

Diane C 1 year ago

This reminds me of a book I read about many different situations like those listed above, where people need to wise up. This isn’t my book, I make no profits from this advertisement, just suggesting a funny book for those annoyed by other peoples stupidity. I found the book on Amazon but the website listed for the book is http://wiseupbook.com The books name is WISE UP.

Jeanne Fulk 1 year ago

Good advice :)

DR 1 year ago

The writer of this piece is also a teacher (so said her last piece). Makes sense.

Nicole Faschingbauer Sier 1 year ago

Be kinder than necessary, for everyone fights their own battles. Let’s work to end the mommy wars.

Lin Chambers 1 year ago

There are exceptions to rules, but making exceptions should be less of the norm than not. A child at a bar is appropriate when there was a true emergency (911 worthy) and it is unsafe for the child to remain outside and the bar is the only place available. Not “I wanna drink and don’t have a babysitter”. And those who are talking about disabilities, as a disabled mom raising a disabled child and grew up with a disabled sibling – please take care to not hide behind your child’s disability; it does no one any favors.

n 1 year ago

Chances are though, you’re trying to do something to assuage the situation, and that’s all that’s needed.

My husband was on a flight with a fairly small baby and clearly new parents. Baby screamed….the whole flight. Hubby noticed baby looked a lot like our two did when they had gas pains, and politely suggested to new mom and dad that maybe their child had some gas pains and suggested trying to keep burping. He was very sympathetic to the stress of baby crying. Mom and dad replied with doing…nothing except saying “shhhh baby” and “I don’t know why she’s doing this.”

It was a very unpleasant flight for him and he was irritated, because they did absolutely nothing to help calm their baby.

Cindy 1 year ago

Really??!! What an idiot!!! Were you paying $50-$100 a plate only to have your little “darlings” waste their money?? What don’t you understand about being told they AREN’T invited??? YOU didn’t pay for the wedding!!! If you want to invite all convicted rapists to your darling daughter’s wedding – go ahead. Someone else’s wedding is NOT your call!!!!

People like you are why the schools are falling apart and the courts are so full – get it in your head – your kids aren’t that special to the rest of us… Grow up princess…

Karen 1 year ago

Jen…you must be the cousin (bride). 😉

Amber 1 year ago

Olive Garden IS a family restaurant. So is Cheesecake Factory, Red Lobster, and the like. I think the author was thinking a little fancier than that. But a chain restaurant? At lunch time? Give them a break. Fast food is not food and I consider it inappropriate for all people to dine at.

otdina 1 year ago

Well, aren’t you special?

No. That was not nice of you. Not classy, and just rude. It wasn’t your party.

You are more than entitled to not agree with the bride’s request not to include certain guests. If you don’t agree, you politely decline the invitation. If she asks why, tell her that you choose not to attend if you can not bring your children. But it was just wrong of you to ignore her wishes. It is her right to choose who attends and who doesn’t. Also, please remember that often the caterer doesn’t discriminate by age. He might make her pay the same amount per plate, even for young guests. In that case, she might want to save her money, and just have, say the ring bearer and flower girl attend, and no other children.

I am a parent. I have two small children. If they are invited to a party, I bring them. If they are not, I don’t. It is simple. I am honored to be asked to attend someone’s party, and not nearly so rude that I would countermand their wishes just because I feel entitled.

Shannon 1 year ago

I can really relate to this article. The entitled parents drive me crazy. I have five kids off my own, and yet I still manage to follow the rules and teach them respect for other people’s feelings and property and rules. I was not raised like this, and I refuse to raise my children to be this way. I really liked this article.

Kelly Foht 1 year ago

Hell yes!

Patti 1 year ago

So, that’s funny…the ONLY kids that were asked not to attend were yours? And that doesn’t tell you something? You didn’t read the very obvious writing on the wall about that?

Helen Russo 1 year ago

I’m not one! We got seated in the bar portion of a family restaurant once and even though mine was very good, I was uncomfortable that people in a bar might be. Ever since, if a hostess heads toward the eat-in bar I ask to be seated elsewhere, even if we have to wait a little longer. It’s not fair to kids to have to see adult bar behavior or to adults in an “adult” place.

Chelsea – Momcomic.com 1 year ago

This reminds me of my upcoming baby shower. I’ve had several friends and relatives tell me they’re bringing their husbands and they hope I have “something for them to do.” Um, was their name on the invitation?! It’s rude, and my house isn’t big enough to accommodate twice the number of people I invited.

I’ve also got people bringing kids, which I sort of get, because it’s a celebration of babies/kids, but I hope they know I don’t have children yet, and therefore I have no toys or games or entertainment suitable for people under 21. So they’ll probably be pretty bored. Maybe they can join up with the extra husbands and go play outside.

Kat 1 year ago

It drives me crazy when I bring my child to some place and tell her, “I’m sorry, but the rules say you can’t do that,” only to have someone tell her that its ok, the rules are stupid. No, rules are not always stupid, and you do NOT need to be telling my daughter that simply because her smile made you fall in love with her. She knows she does that to people, she uses it to her advantage when I’m not looking. (Which is mainly when she is with family or school.)

My point is that this doesn’t just apply to parents, but to everyone. (Yeah, my biggest pet peeve is someone trying to tell me how to raise my child, especially when I am trying to tell her “no” about something for her safety or my sanity.)

Kelly Fowler 1 year ago

None of us are perfect none of us probably have angelic children. The thing is, there are many choices out there and sacrifices we make as parents. One of those sacrifices is not going out drinking at the bar with your baby. You’ll do what you want and it’s a free country but you can’t expect that you will find people to agree with you here.

Kelly Baranak Benefield 1 year ago

Sometimes, as a parent, you have to give things up. When your kids are grown and gone, you can go back to it. I know some entitled parents, and their kids are becoming little assholes. Kids have to learn the world has rules.

Delta Harmon 1 year ago

Loveit.

Maggie Rose 1 year ago

I don’t judge other parents. you do what you feel is right. I wouldn’t want someone to judge my parenting, so I wouldn’t judge someone else. although I’d be the mom making faces at the kid kicking my chair or something to try to distract them. because come on, we’ve all been “that parent” at some point and it doesn’t mean we’re ignoring our kids or that we’re lazy or bad parents. sometimes kids are just kids. but I wouldn’t bring my child to something that was obviously inappropriate for his age or fight to let him ride a ride he wasn’t the right size for. I totally agree with this post. although the public transportation one is a little more of a gray area.

MeggieB 1 year ago

I agree with Claire. It is unbelievably out of order to bring your children to a wedding that specifies “adults only” or “no children under 5”. I can’t believe anyone does that!

And yes, I do have children, before anyone asks. Two of ’em, and plan more :)

Chelsea – Momcomic.com 1 year ago

As a fellow teacher, I completely agree! Many times when there’s a problem student, I meet with the parents and everything suddenly becomes clear. Several years ago, during American Education Week, I had a mother bring her toddler daughter to my class. While I was teaching, she allowed her toddler to sit in my chair at my desk and play on my computer, without asking me. I didn’t know what to say! I didn’t think I’d have to correct kids who aren’t even my students, let alone their parents!

Rachel Schlukebier 1 year ago

It seems as if people in general just seem to think they are special. News flash, you aren’t. I often want to tell people to get over themselves. They perpetuate their ‘specialness’ to their children and the cycle continues.

Bonny Bright Whitfield 1 year ago

Please just remember that you don’t know the whole story. I try to just not judge other moms. Try to be the one who helps instead.

Tracy Clark-Chemburkar 1 year ago

Watching parents allowing their kids– students or not– to run amok at on-campus school functions like PTA meetings and even awards breakfasts drives me crazy.

Lisa Mobley Webster 1 year ago

My pet peeve is parents holding their babies in swimming pools and reprimanding older children for splashing around too much! Go to the kiddie pool!

Cheryl Partida 1 year ago

Yes, yes, yes! Thank you!!

Jenny Long 1 year ago

People disagreeing with this article ARE “those” parents. These rules are pretty much written in stone for the last 100 years. I just can not believe anyone has an issue with them. My children are WILD. Really. And when they act up, I remove them from the situation. Parenting 101, folks. And never in my wildest dreams would I ever take them to a bar or to a movie meant for adults. I can’t believe people are saying “yeah, but….” Clearly, those folks are part of the problem.

Becky Newton 1 year ago

YES.

Tracey 1 year ago

This is a refection of the new world order of parenting that started as I was growing up. It has become all about petting our children’s feelings, giving them what ever they want and not actually parenting. (you know that hard part, where you have to make them mad, and cry and set boundaries and actually teach them the world does not revolve around them.) I’m sure someone will probably slam me for this, but it is the truth. Do you know what you do when you make everything about your kids? You get people who think that everything should be about them. Because that is what you taught them. Me…me…me. And that…is what we are seeing now.

Alison Toman-Zwick 1 year ago

I love this! Proud to say I haven’t and won’t ever be that type of parent!

Tracy Gent 1 year ago

A-M-E-N

Jessica 1 year ago

THANK YOU! I’m so tired of these parents thinking their child is more important then every other child on the planet. You are not doing them any favors catering to them like that.

CB 1 year ago

Thank you, thank you, thank you for this! Having been one of those people whose seat was kicked for a whole plane flight (really–you NEVER noticed your little darling was doing this?), I totally agree. And as for the person who brought her UNWELCOME children, to the wedding, thanks for proving the author’s point. I’m sure the bride and the groom really appreciate feeding a toddler a $50/plate dinner.

Tricia The Good Mama 1 year ago

Excellent post! I can’t stand it when people think they are above the rules.

Kelly Fowler 1 year ago

There is never an excuse for bringing a baby to a bar. Sorry.

Bethanne Harms 1 year ago

when i was five months pregnant with my son, i went to a party for a former co-worker at a bowling alley on a friday night. while we were sitting at the lanes watching friends bowl. i noticed a parent bring their three young children – the oldest being at least three years old – bowling. at eleven pm at night. another former co-worker of mine leaned in to me and told me “promise me you won’t be THAT mother!”

i could understand if they couldn’t find a babysitter or have the kids spend the night with family, but the last place those kids needed to be that friday night is at a bowling alley full of people who have beers and throwing balls at lanes.

(on a note in regards to the article, i kinda disagree with rift on public transit. my son is now two months old and he enjoys being on the bus. i put him in my baby carrier with my scarf wrap and have him face me as we ride the bus. calms him right down when he’s moving in a vehicle (if the vehicle was at a stop light, he actually hates it!) but not all kids aren’t high-maintenance and have to cause anxiety in others in public transport. the only thing is that my husband and i hate to fly. so our son won’t be on a plane. we prefer to rent a car and do our traveling, since he loves car rides. i think that part of the article should have just been all about airplanes. and this comes from a woman who has family and friends that work in public transit. and they don’t mind taking my little one for rides with his mom. :) )

Rachel Ingle 1 year ago

Sometimes it’s hard to tell what restaurants are family friendly and which ones aren’t. Sometimes a movie is the only way your 3 month will go to sleep. Sometimes it’s nice to take my daughter out and feel like a part of society and not someone who fits in to that “other” category of having kids where everything is cheap plastic, running, screaming and chaos. I thought this was going to be a good article about teaching your kids to follow the rules, but it sounds like a whiny single person rant.

Tara 1 year ago

Several replies, and not one single person agrees with dm. I couldn’t be more happily surprised! (Oh, and ditto what everyone else said.)

Carmen Bradley Theel 1 year ago

I LOVE this! My husband and I were visiting Boston last fall and went to a national monument where one of the employees kindly kept pointing out the family could not take in their food/drink. The parents then sent in the kids alone and the young lady again had to say minors could not be unaccompanied. These parents went ballistic saying their children should be allowed and they seemed pretty entitled like they would never stoop to following the rules for the insignificant masses. The poor young woman was practically in tears. After we were done we specifically spoke to the manager on her behalf she was so grateful she was shaking. Seriously something wrong with these people! Welcome to the land of entitlement! Crazy!

Anna Schaufler 1 year ago

A million times, YES. For the love…

Amusedmom 1 year ago

Amen!

Tina Powell 1 year ago

I don’t have the money for a sitter either but I would NEVER take my kids to a freakin bar. You know what, if you want out of the house, go take a walk or visit a friend or window shop. Why must you go to a bar?

Claire Elizabeth 1 year ago

While I agree with the spirit of this post it’s important to remember we don’t know what goes on in someone’s house on any given day. I’m soon to have my fifth child. I try to avoid taking them to the grocery store (for example) because we take up lots of space in the isles. I use a shop from home service. But guess what? Sometimes the service is down or all the time slots are full. I am mindful of others and let them cut me in line, etc. however, taking small kids out in public doesn’t automatically make you clueless or entitled.

Kaylie Jones 1 year ago

Only in America are kids not welcomed. In Mexico, children are cherished everywhere. Kids here in Mexico can sleep anywhere, anytime – they’re used to being out and about with their family at anytime.

Amanda Jackson 1 year ago

I thought this article was awesome and hilarious! And true! there are a time and a place for children to be present. And arguing at the swim park is the one I always see! Way to teach your kid to be a mini d-bag!

Josey Schaub 1 year ago

I think that the inconsiderate parents who let their offspring behave rudely and break rules, simply can’t be bothered to any parenting which can often involve reprimand and use of the word “no”. They don’t want to make their kids cry or unhappy so they avoid stopping such behavior at all costs. Don’t be THAT parent!

bombinabirdcage 1 year ago

I had a no-child wedding. I had one cousin show up with two young kids anyway. I promptly and privately asked her to meet us at the reception hall. I explained that every other parent made arrangements and she refused to. She does not get special treatment. Therefore, she was sent packing. If you cannot respect my request, you cannot attend. You sound like a spoiled brat.

Melissa Stephans 1 year ago

Eh, I can’t say I agree with this whole post.

Lauren McMillan Larsen 1 year ago

Love this! It’s not only disrespectful to other children and families, but it teaches kids that they don’t need to follow the rules, which will overlap into adulthood!

Molly Horn 1 year ago

Scary Mommy, I love your posts. However, this story assumes that all parents have the ability/money to hire a babysitter at any moment. Not all of us do. And that doesn’t mean that I feel entitled to break the rules. It just means that sometimes I have to get out of the house, with my daughter, or I go crazy.

Rachel 1 year ago

*kidless

Sarah Harz 1 year ago

I typically love Scary Mommy articles. This one is a bit too judgy feeling for me, maybe more in the responses than the article… My son is only 16m old. No I’m not one of those parents. I’ve never taken him to the movies or on a plane, a fancy 5 star restaurant or a bar. My issue is that children with disabilities are not taken into consideration. You can think that you’d be understanding of a parent/child interaction if the child had a disability, but there’s no way of knowing a child has autism or any other disability. If you did know the child had a disability, you wouldn’t know the best way to parent the child unless you were his mother or father. I listened to a story on the radio today about a woman who had the police called on her because an outsider judged the way she and her husband handled a tantrum their son with autism was having.

Lizette Alvarado Stradford 1 year ago

I don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t like this article because it is all true…disabled children or not, you can teach them to behave in public or not take them out…also u as the parent have to enforce rules and know your kid isn’t exempted from them…my son takes ADD medication and if he is having a bad day, we don’t go out or he has to calm down before we leave…and I respect people’s rule and always ask if my kids are invited to a party/wedding, I never assume they can come…guess what mine or yours are NOT that damn special, get over yourself!!!

Sara O’Brien Farmer 1 year ago

Amen. Love this post.

Rachel 1 year ago

I pay 10$/hour to go lidless. The last thing I want to do is be stuck in a booth next to a mom that refuses to do the right thing and remove a disruptive child. Take them out. Take them outside. It’s not everyone’s cross to bear. Yes every other parent in the room knows what you are going through and that you just want to eat your meal . Sorry dude. Sucks to be you. Also, it is zero class to constantly be that mom who complains non-stop that she can’t afford a babysitter. If you can’t afford it, that does not mean that you bring your kids anyway. It’s a pretty straight forward and simple concept. EVEN if you’re breast feeding. Sorry you’re not an elite god just because you’re lactating. I nursed two and I can say that!

odbowes 1 year ago

Dear DM…grow up. You and your children are not special. And yes, people can choose to have ‘adult only’ events. If you are so offended, perhaps you should just stay home. A friend of mine was getting married and I replied to the invitation that I was coming with my 7 year old (there wasn’t a mention of ‘no children’ on the invite.) She called me and explained that her father was paying $60 a plate and that they were asking that children not attend. It was at a very nice winery. I completely understood and took my mother instead. Once again, dm, GROW UP.

Megan 1 year ago

We were camping at a family friendly campground and there was this one little boy that was trying to kick kids off of various playground equipment because he wanted to do it. We put my 3 year old on a swing and within 2 minutes the little boy was standing in front of her saying “I want to swing now. Can I swing now? I want to swing now.” We told him politely to wait a few minutes and he could have the swing and he moved into her swinging path and demanded she get off the swing now. So we just moved to the slide. As we were getting her off the swing he pushed his way to the seat and said “ok push me now. I want you to push me. Push me now!!” His parents were seated not 5 feet away watching and didn’t say a damn thing but gave me a dirty look when I wouldn’t push their son….Some parents I tell ya.

Kimberly Sisson 1 year ago

Jesus some of you are incredibly short sighted!!!! This article isn’t about a mom bashing other moms, it’s about fucking PARENTING (goes for both mom AND dad) with some common fucking courtesy!!! How hard is that to understand??

casy 1 year ago

You are that parent. It’s not your wedding and if people wish to not have children of a certain age they should be able to do just that. Regardless if your kids were well behaved or not the point is you tjink you are an exception to the rule. If it bothered you so much and felt like you were being targeted then maybe you should have stayed home.

Anna Packard 1 year ago

I have kids & I feel the same way. I don’t get why people get all offended over the issue or why people can’t just do the right thing.

Nicole 1 year ago

I notice the movie thing a lot-look I know that its hard to go to a movie, and expensive to leave a baby with a babysitter for a few hours. BUT why ruin the movie for everyone else with a crying baby? Especially for a movie not Rated G. I expect small kids at that movie, *my 4 year old couldn’t shut up during frozen, but it was frozen. He was just laughing and oohing and ahhing, not being obnoxious. But To take them to an adult movie? That’s not good for the child, or anyone else and is just selfish on the parent. Rent it on Net flix when it comes out. There are sacrifices we have to make as a parent!

Andy 1 year ago

I agree. As a teacher, I applaud this piece. My colleagues and I were talking about why some kids just don’t follow the rules that we explicit talk to them about, and we concluded that it comes from their parents’ disregard for the rules. So the next time my friend and I had carpool duty, we kept track of which parents broke the rules of drop-off (e.g., dropping kids off where they shouldn’t, cutting in line, etc.). Sure enough, a lot of the kids we had problems with had parents that broke the rules too.

Dana 1 year ago

I agree with all of these. I also have a funny story about an adults only wedding I was invited to. My son was 4 or 5 at the time and my cousin had an adults only wedding. Since I didn’t have anyone to keep my child that weekend, I didn’t go. Seemed like the right thing to do to me. Funny thing is, my cousin and aunt were irritated that I didn’t go. Guess there was no way to win that one.

Rachel 1 year ago

Congratulations on being a perfect example of the entitled all-about-me attitude that this article is talking about. I bet that you were belligerent too and lacked the sense to even fake feeling awkward. Are you also the type that demands menu changes and special accommodations for get togethers that you attend? Do you wail about , blurt and complain that you can’t afford a babysitter? Your response made you look like a super rude person.

Monica Anderson 1 year ago

I love this because I am rules oriented and I get irritated when people don’t follow the rules. I know most people feel it’s ok to break rules as long as…but that really defeats the purpose of rules if you can rationalize your own ideas of when it’s ok to obey. Authority issues.

JoAnne Dietrich 1 year ago

I can’t believe parents would bring their kids to a movie or bar. It is sad. Some parents are clueless.

odbowes 1 year ago

WOW! Just shocked that ‘dm’ with her “I’m that special” attitude would be the first to respond. I have three kids; far enough apart that I’ve been the parent of small children 14 years apart. I have always tried my absolute hardest to be respectful of other people in relation to taking my children places. A few places that Lily neglected to mention…1) Other children’s birthday parties – keep your kid away from the presents, out of the cake, and from inserting themselves into each and every picture the birthday child’s parent is trying to take. 2) Clothing Stores – I don’t appreciate your child peeking under the dressing room door or playing hide-n-seek in the clothing racks or tearing clothes off the hangers for someone else to clean up. 3) Any other place that your lovely off-spring is causing a commotion, tearing things up, or being a general nuisance to others trying to enjoy the setting. Our world would be a much nicer place if people would be polite and respectful of each other.

Cristine Ann 1 year ago

Absolutely, when I pay money for a sitter so that i can enjoy a VERY much needed night out in adult company and have a fancy dinner at an expensive restaurant , I do not want to listen to children shrieking. Yes, I can move…and I do. But people shouldn’t have to. There are a plethora of child friendly restaurants, why would you take your child who’s clearly to young to appreciate an upscale establishment to such a place?

Stacy Adams Kohorst 1 year ago

Love this article. Too bad the parents that this applies to won’t get this and think they are the ones you are talking about! I can’t stand these parents!

Tif D 1 year ago

I think it is RUDE to ignore the wishes of the bride. It was, after all, her wedding and it should be just as she wishes. I bet if someone went against your wishes you would rip them apart due to your entitlement. This only reflected badly on you. If you did not like their decision you should have stayed home and not attended. It is never ok to go against what is specified on a wedding invite.

Kaya 1 year ago

It doesn’t matter what you think or what you want. She said no kids under five. That’s it. End of story. You get to “not believe” in adult only weddings when you throw one not when others do.

What you did was extremely tacky. It says a lot about the bride that she didn’t ask you to leave with the kids. She was gracious and don’t think there weren’t a half dozen people telling her that she should have kicked you out.

Kristin Johnston Bamford 1 year ago

Amen!!!

Ashley C. 1 year ago

I definitely agree! I am a mom of an almost two year old, and I always make sure to pack games/toys when I know we’re going to be at a store or restaurant where she might get cranky. I’ve flown with my daughter internationally and intercontinental several times (to and from Germany twice), and I still feel uncomfortable using the airport “cheats.” I stand in the regular line with my daughter unless a TSA agent tells us to go to a shorter one. I’ve only used the cars that drive you through the airport once because I am afraid that someone elderly or injured/disabled may need it. And I pack a crap-ton of stuff for her to eat and do. We’ve always been blessed to have amazing passengers around us, which helps immensely. But I would never expect people to “deal with it” just because I have a child! I hate entitled parents. Yes, sometimes I can’t help my daughter being a toddler, but I also work really hard to make sure she doesn’t disrupt anyone.

Lydia Quinones 1 year ago

And I do know some of the background. I have two children under age 5 and we have had it rough too. That doesn’t give anyone a reason to be rude. And for those families with special needs, for anyone in that family, as long as you are trying to help and do the best you can, we understand that meltdowns happen. It’s the rudeness and inconsideration that is really bothersome, and well, rude!

Tricia 1 year ago

Wow, that’s crazy! Those parents clearly don’t have the common sense necessary to raise young children. It’s kind of scary, really.

Jennifer Kolosky Eastman 1 year ago

I’m certain the moms of kids with ASD were completely crushed by this post.

Ashley Williams 1 year ago

I feel people who truly have a child with special needs knows this article was not even about the children or their parents who try to be good parents. Its about the crappy parents who are selfish. I have twins who are great in public and never whine or cry BUT I dont take them to an adult movie or a 5 star resturant. When I go out I pay good money to enjoy a break not listen to your kid who is screaming for cake before dinner…..

Jen 1 year ago

And that’s why you’re a douche canoe, asshole.

Kristie 1 year ago

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!! x a billion!!! Too bad the entitled parents, the ones who you wrote this article about are going to read this, be offended and then tell you how incredibly wrong you are.

Mayce Smith 1 year ago

As a parent of 3, (15, 9 and 6) with my 9 year old being autistic, I learned very young (18) that once you have kids, the world as a carefree adult is over. Your environments, from the moment you have children, is at their mercy. Granted things are easier now they are older, I wouldn’t dream of taking my children into a place where disruption would be an option. That’s what baby sitters are for.

Gail Jantamrian Hetra 1 year ago

SO true!

Dani Riley 1 year ago

Omg! Number 1 and number 6.

BeeMoney 1 year ago

Have you seen your COUSIN since the WEDDING? I would think twice before inviting you to future events. Their wedding was not about you or your children.

Monica Jo Ptacek 1 year ago

I think the biggest part of this article that I love is the emphasis on not being too special to follow the rules. I feel like waiting in line, parking correctly, etc are all setting good examples for my kids, which is more important that if I avoid annoying someone! That said, I empathize with parents who have misbehaving kids on a plane or in a restaurant as long as they are trying to contain/entertain/subdue them.

Wendy Martin 1 year ago

When my son was small, my ex husband bragged about getting him a wrist band even though he wasn’t the required height at an amusement park. Later, my son described how he almost died, because the safety bar wasn’t holding him in properly and he was slipping out of his seat for the entire ride. I was furious. Why? Is a stupid ride actually worth risking a child’s life? Wth is wrong with people??

Marcella Zinno Rolwes 1 year ago

Or let your kid scream and run down the aisles of the church during the vows bc you don’t want to miss it.

LLOkieLady 1 year ago

Oh yeah, cause that is classy. Forget that they are paying thousands of dollars for their special day. It’s all about you.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for the next invitation.

Nicole Light 1 year ago

The parents that watch their child(ren) climbing up the slide when other kids are trying to go down!!

Paige Inglese 1 year ago

I’ve been in the position where I had to make a choice to get a sitter or go to almost all of these events and I choose to stay home with my children…but it does upset me when family members have a wedding and expect you not to bring your children. It’s rude..

Stephanie Lynn 1 year ago

Lmao! I am so sharing this

Lydia Quinones 1 year ago

WELL SAID!! As a teacher in a daycare preschool, we see more than enough of this.

Wendy Martin 1 year ago

Wow, so you are exactly the person the author is writing about! Congratulations, now you know you’re a jerk! In the end, these all boil down to the same thing-it isn’t YOUR decision. Disregarding the wishes of the people footing the bill is awful. If you were so offended, you should have declined the invitation. If you think adult only (or specific age) events are rude, don’t have one.

Jenny Kruschke 1 year ago

Not only is it super rude to the other people in the theater to bring your small child to any movie that isn’t animated, the loud theater is not good for a baby’s ears. It has always baffled me why people think this is ok. I have 2 kids under 2, and I don’t think I should stop getting to have fun, but in some instances, a babysitter is necessary.

Mandy Hodach 1 year ago

Amen!!

Robin Geer Troxell 1 year ago

Amen

Marnie Cormier 1 year ago

Not just movies at full volume, any electronics! The sound of the stupid background music on video games drives me insane

Elizabeth Grattan 1 year ago

I’m okay with an infant in a bar. Depends on the bar.

Katy Brown 1 year ago

I don’t think I could love this blog more.

Jessica Moore 1 year ago

Great article again.

Alice Pek 1 year ago

Does the swim class own the dock? No? Then they don’t own the right to say only the swim class can be on it! That’ just cocky

Andi 1 year ago

I had a no kids wedding because between my husband and myself we had 45 kids on the list! We both come from families where having 5 or 6 kids is the norm ( and they bring them to the events). We simply could not afford to pay for all those kids plus our venue was far too small and child unfriendly ( ponds and such). Perhaps before you judge you should remember its not about your or your family. Weddings are stressful enough and hard decisions have to be made during the planning. It was rude of you to bring people that were not invited.

Katie Bogdan Sunderlin 1 year ago

When I was in college I worked for a Blockbuster Video. On Friday and Saturday we closed at midnight. Every weekend without fail, we always get at least one set of parents who dragged a very sleep looking toddler/preschooler in after midnight (I wouldn’t be surprised if they pulled them out of bed) to look for movies. As if that wasn’t bad enough, they would always yell and get very pissy with the kid for acting cranky.

Brittany Londergan 1 year ago

Yes! So true, especially #4. I get so angry with the parents who let their big children play on small
Kid play equipment just because they want to. My small daughter deserves to play and have fun without fear of being run over by the big kids who are breaking the rules! There is a size limit for a reason!

Melissa Bartucci 1 year ago

Amen again!!

Peggy A Garcia 1 year ago

Yes ago at a local Olive Garden for a lunch break from work, two women were seated across the room from our group. They proceeded to put the infant carrier with infant under the table where it proceeded to cry loudly while they dined and drank wine. The manager chose to say nothing to the women. We asked to be moved. When we left, we loudly let him know we would not be back and we would let our co-workers and friends know his policy….

Trish 1 year ago

You are incredibly rude. It wasn’t your wedding, where you get to make the rules. People have a budget and an idea for how they want THEIR day to play out. Your children were not invited. Bringing them anyway and feeling no remorse was amaxingly selfish, and totally insane. It’s the same thing as deciding that you are just randomly going to crash a wedding to which you were not invited – would you show up at a stranger’s wedding to which you were not invited and think they were rude to not invite you? Your choices in this case were to get a sitter for stay home, not to randomly add uninvited guests to the guest list and increase the expense of that couple. Ridiculous!

Christi 1 year ago

I really relate to #4. As scary as it is to think people do this, I was working at a major amusement park in Souther California one spring when I had to deal with this. The ride I was operating (alone, because it was an “off-season” weekday) was one that goes at a very fast speed, utilizing centrifugal force to create the thrilling experience. It had a very clear, often repeated, firm 56″ height requirement. A family of 4 (Dad, Mom, 8 year old boy & 3 year old girl) come through my turnstile and the girl is NOWHERE near the height requirement. But I still measure her and verify it. SO mom (who loudly procalims that she never wanted to ride anyway, because it was way too scary) takes the toddler out the exit as Dad & son find a car around the backside of the ride from the control tower. I make my rounds, checking that all lap bars are down and locked and that everything is ready to go. I walk back up to my control tower and get ready to launch when I see the toddler’s mother lowering her over the side wall, onto the ride floor, and watch the little girl run over to her daddy and shimmy UNDER THE SAFETY BAR to snuggle between her dad and brother for the ride. Of course, I immediately called security for backup and ran the “technical difficulties” spiel before ejecting the family from the ride. Whether they got kicked from the park or just given a strict warning that another violation of the rules (yes, folks, amusement parks are private businesses that have RULES… read the back of your ticket sometime) would result in such, I don’t know. But to this day, it blows my mind. If your child can slip under the locked safety bar, why in the seven hells would you even WANT to let her ride?

Leanne Nadworny 1 year ago

Yes to all of this. And yes I have a kid – he’s 16 months and I’d never bring him to the movies, or a wedding, or any place he wasn’t specifically invited to. It’s not that serious. And when the time comes and he breaks a rule there will be consequences. This gets me soo fired up!!

Rainey Rafferty-Cortes 1 year ago

Like like like like like!!!

Kimberlie Turnbaugh 1 year ago

Amen

EntitledMuch 1 year ago

I hope your children were better behaved than you were!

Emilie Poulin 1 year ago

I dunno. I don’t think it’s my place to judge how others raise their kids. You usually don’t know the whole story, and as others have said: resources, developmental delays and education are all factors here.

Barbara Mastroddi-Lackey 1 year ago

People think they’re entitled to go out (but without the expense of babysitters). Just like the jackwagons years ago who thought it was okay to take a 4-year-old to a 9 p.m. screening of “Jurassic Park, “which was pretty frickin’ scary in parts (and the poor kid was crying, but stupid so-called parent did not heed child’s cries and did not remove him from theater).

Kelly Beall 1 year ago

I think the plane isn’t so much about the kid sitting silently as it is the parent trying to do something – anything – to help the situation.

I once sat in front of a two year old who kicked my seat incessantly. I turned around to ask the parent if they would ask junior to knock it off. I was met with his dad saying to me, “He’s two. Make sure you don’t recline your seat.”

Sarah Karsten 1 year ago

Missing the one on waiting in line or waiting your turn. Drives me crazy that parents allow, encourage or sometimes even participate in making their way to the front of the line because they feel they shouldn’t have to wait. Of course they must be more important than all the others using manners and waiting patiently!

Shanna Reimer 1 year ago

Lol, I take my little guy to our book club sometimes when my husband works late – we meet in the back room of a local pub that also serves food and I always get a look or two when I’m carrying him in or out, at which point I can always count on one of my girls to yell out, Reese Witherspoon style, “Ohhhhhh, you’ve got a BABY! In a BAR!” 😉 But no, he never hangs out at the actual bar lol.

Candice Osborne 1 year ago

The “yes, but my child…..” Just stop! Totally nailed it!

Shannon Walsh 1 year ago

Well said, but do remember while they are those who just don’t care, sometimes there’s more to it. Example, my daughter is Autistic and NOT easy to wrangle. Also, no access to childcare or family so those events are either bring the kids, or be at home with no friends.

Gretchen Holderman 1 year ago

THANK YOU!!!

Shardae Sudweeks Curtis 1 year ago

I find that this concept also applies to every day life with all ages. Like people that can’t take the extra 20 seconds to park properly, as an example. It’s all about respect for others and thinking you’re special often eliminates that.

Kelly Fowler 1 year ago

Amen!!!! Was at the movies seeing The Purge last week and some woman trailed in at about 15 minutes till the end of the movie with her 7 year old and 4 year old walking behind her. For real? Can’t imagine the nightmares those poor kids probably had.

Amy Ann Deel 1 year ago

We had a kid free wedding not because there weren’t kids we loved to have had there but because we couldn’t afford it. It would have tripled our guest lost! That being said, my cousin contacted me the day before our wedding and the person she had to watch their daughter passed away unexpectedly. She was calling to say they couldn’t attend. Pic told them to please come and we would figure it out!

DeAnna Lynn Loveless 1 year ago

This is FABULOUSSSSS!!!!!

Meghan Conetta 1 year ago

And if the wedding/party is kid-inclusive, don’t be that parent who lets your 2 4 and 6 year olds run around the room, up and down the halls and behind the bar and under the tables….it’s not cute or funny and when a server drops something on them or spills something hot on them, you won’t be laughing

Amy Morris Cowley 1 year ago

Yes to #1! We went on a date to The Hunger Games Catching Fire when it first hit theaters. Behind us was a crying 2 year old! And there was the time we went to Harry Potter and there was an infant 3 rows in front. Seriously, why do people think that is okay!!!??? And who wants to drag a kid to a non-animated movie anyways! That’s like my peaceful happy place! :)

Raegan Kim 1 year ago

Just got home from Disney World and that’s the Mecca of parents like this

Rainey Rafferty-Cortes 1 year ago

How about the parents who don’t feel the need to park in a parking spot when dropping their precious bundle off at daycare in the rain. They think they’re special enough to stop in the fire lane, blocking the single, narrow sidewalk entrance to school so that other parents must pick up their toddlers and rub up against car in violation to get to the sidewalk. I either carry my child thru the wet bushes while holding an umbrella or a rub up against your precious “I’m more important than you” vehicle. Guess what I choose?

Christi 1 year ago

Thank you for illustrating the author’s point, dm. Your tone and obvious disrespect for anybody but yourself shines right through. And if you think there is no difference between a well behaved 2 year old and a well behaved 5 year old, you’re delusional as well as selfish. Of course there is a difference. The likelihood of a 2 year old suddenly bursting into tears because of the sudden cacophany of applause at the announcement of the bride and groom, captured for enternity on the happy couples expensive wedding video is far more likely than with a child old enough to have learned basic reasoning and impulse control. But, hey… it doesn’t matter what I, or anyone else says. It’s your world and we’re all RUDE just for being in it.

Angela Akers 1 year ago

So true! Nothing worse than screaming kids and yes I have kids

AMW 1 year ago

Boy, you sound like a gem. I would have politely asked you to leave my wedding, and had you escorted out.

Nicole Marie Pastier 1 year ago

I agree with all of this!! Unfortunately, no matter what I do my very very active little girl would not be able to sit quietly on a plane ride…which is the reason she has not been on a plane 😉

kathy 1 year ago

Nobody kicked you out because they had more class than you. Once you had gone against their very clear request, they decided their happy day wasn’t going to be any more disturbed by your actions and kept quiet. I can, without a doubt, tell you that your actions did not reflect well upon you and you have probably been the topic of many a conversation regarding your misplaced sense of entitlement. Heaven help your little darlings- they may grow up exactly the way you want, and that’ll be just another generation of selfishness.

Dana Lopez 1 year ago

Yes! I’ve witnessed two women talking at a Barnes & Noble, watching and allowing their precious girls to make a mess of the toy area, opening and playing with toys, and leaving the now ruined and unsellable toys littering the floors!!!!

Katie Thomas 1 year ago

I adore you Lily.

Tina Roberson Davis 1 year ago

Yes. This.

Mollie del Villar 1 year ago

Nope. Not that mom.

Kristen Brown Rielly 1 year ago

A – freakin – men

Aj YangValencia 1 year ago

Thank you!!

Christina Ahn 1 year ago

Preach it!

Dannah Kilborn 1 year ago

I agree with all except the plane one. My son is autistic and no matter how prepared I am … There is always one meltdown. Traveling is hard. It’s harder on kids. It’s even harder on special needs kids. But it has to be done. So stop judging us. We’re really tired of having to tell our kids to stop kicking the seat, too. But your “helpful” suggestions about how my kid just needs disciplined – yeah those aren’t really helpful.

Emily Hoagland Delles 1 year ago

Also applies to handicapped parking spots – having kids and being in a hurry doesn’t make you exempt from the law. Just don’t.

Jillian A Hajdasz 1 year ago

Thank you! This is the worst. Like parents who look adoringly at their kids and look around to make sure we are all staring adoringly too.

Eileen Weale 1 year ago

amen sista sista

Natalie Richmond 1 year ago

Yes!

Ingrid Walerius 1 year ago

Amen!!!!

GunDiva 1 year ago

Bravo!

Claire B. 1 year ago

That is a terrible, terrible attitude to have. #1, what gives you the right to tell your cousin (or any bride!) how to have her wedding??? #2, your kids are going to watch your actions and if you don’t teach them the importance of common courtesy and basic social rules, they are going to turn out like the egocentric and entitled people Lily is writing about. You certainly have the right to raise your kids the way you see fit, but please consider what kind of people you are raising them to be.

Claire B. 1 year ago

Hi! It’s sort of funny that I read this, because despite being married, I have no kids and no plans to have them anytime soon. But a friend sent this to me, because this is a HUGE hot-button issue for me – parents or not, it seems that a lot of people today think that they are just to special for the rules. Whether it’s cutting in line at the train or letting their kids run rampant at a nice restaurant, I just wish people would just accept that everyone needs to maintain common courtesy, no matter who they think they are. Especially if they are parents! How will kids grow up knowing how to behave well when their parents are constantly teaching them that they are too important to follow the rules?? Thank you so much for shining a light on this issue – I hope I have friends like you when I become a mom.

dm 1 year ago

I think it’s RUDE to have “adult only” WEDDINGS, and I brought my 2 year old and 4 year old to one of those. My COUSIN was getting married and asked that no kids “under the age of 5” attend. But older kids were allowed? My kids were behaved, it wasn’t an “adult” atmosphere at all.
I never apologized, I thought it was ridiculous because because of who they invited, they were essentially only eliminating MY children from the event. No one kicked us out either. And no one died because my kids were there.